When printing in grayscale or b/w, my white table borders turn black. I used
to be able to select the table in 2003, and convert it to grayscale to keep
the white borders, but I cannot do that in 2007.

I have taken to PDFing the file before printing in b/w, but this won't
always work for my clients. Any way around this?
--
bh529

> When printing in grayscale or b/w, my white table borders turn black. I
> used
> to be able to select the table in 2003, and convert it to grayscale to
> keep
> the white borders, but I cannot do that in 2007.
> I have taken to PDFing the file before printing in b/w, but this won't
> always work for my clients. Any way around this?

Grayscale options are now on the view tab. But you should avoid printing
pure Black & White, all modern printers are capable for Grayscale.

Best regards,
Ute



--
Ute Simon
Microsoft PowerPoint MVP Team und PowerPoint-User-Team
Schon gesehen? www.ppt-user.de/blogger und www.ppt-tv.de

I really appreciate your reply Ute. I do print in grayscale, but the table
borders still print black. I have been in the grayscale view, but in 2007 it
no longer gives me the option to convert the selected table to grayscale.

I am hoping to find a way to keep the white borders white when
viewed/printed in grayscale.


--
bh529


"Ute Simon" wrote:

> > When printing in grayscale or b/w, my white table borders turn black. I
> > used
> > to be able to select the table in 2003, and convert it to grayscale to
> > keep
> > the white borders, but I cannot do that in 2007.
> > I have taken to PDFing the file before printing in b/w, but this won't
> > always work for my clients. Any way around this?
>
> Grayscale options are now on the view tab. But you should avoid printing
> pure Black & White, all modern printers are capable for Grayscale.
>
> Best regards,
> Ute
>
>
>
> --
> Ute Simon
> Microsoft PowerPoint MVP Team und PowerPoint-User-Team
> Schon gesehen? www.ppt-user.de/blogger und www.ppt-tv.de
>
>
>

Thanks so much. I will do that before sending off to a client.
--
bh529


"Steve Rindsberg" wrote:

> In article <BD8D7619-DDAC-43D9-9E52-(E-Mail Removed)>, Bh529 wrote:
> > I really appreciate your reply Ute. I do print in grayscale, but the table
> > borders still print black. I have been in the grayscale view, but in 2007 it
> > no longer gives me the option to convert the selected table to grayscale.
>
> You're right. When you select a table, the grayscale options dim out and are
> inaccessible.
>
> You might experiment with this:
>
> Select the table
> Press Ctrl+C to copy it
> On the Home tab, Clipboard group click the downarrow beneath Paste
> Choose Paste Special and pick EMF or WMF (experiment with both)
> You'll be able to adjust grayscale settings for the pasted picture.
>
> But the picture will no longer be a table; keep a copy of the original table
> around in case you later need to edit it.
>
> -----------------------------------------
> Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
> PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
> PPTools: www.pptools.com
> ================================================
>
>
>

So, um ... since this is a serious design flaw that many people are upset
with, it would be ubercool to be able to ask Microsoft to please *fix it --
and sooner rather than later!* I know the knowledge experts who respond here
are volunteers, so I'm not mad ... just frustrated. How can I reach the
"powers that be" at Microsoft to ask them to give this some attention?

"Steve Rindsberg" wrote:

> In article <BD8D7619-DDAC-43D9-9E52-(E-Mail Removed)>, Bh529 wrote:
> > I really appreciate your reply Ute. I do print in grayscale, but the table
> > borders still print black. I have been in the grayscale view, but in 2007 it
> > no longer gives me the option to convert the selected table to grayscale.
>
> You're right. When you select a table, the grayscale options dim out and are
> inaccessible.
>
> You might experiment with this:
>
> Select the table
> Press Ctrl+C to copy it
> On the Home tab, Clipboard group click the downarrow beneath Paste
> Choose Paste Special and pick EMF or WMF (experiment with both)
> You'll be able to adjust grayscale settings for the pasted picture.
>
> But the picture will no longer be a table; keep a copy of the original table
> around in case you later need to edit it.
>
> -----------------------------------------
> Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
> PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
> PPTools: www.pptools.com
> ================================================
>
>
>

Trust me, I've b!tched about it enough that they are indeed aware of this
issue. I am not holding my breath for a fix, though. I will definitely
forward your plea along, too.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.com
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.htm
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grcd
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7nx

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"Anemone" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:3ED5AFB1-1D0B-45E6-A704-(E-Mail Removed)...
> So, um ... since this is a serious design flaw that many people are upset
> with, it would be ubercool to be able to ask Microsoft to please *fix
> it --
> and sooner rather than later!* I know the knowledge experts who respond
> here
> are volunteers, so I'm not mad ... just frustrated. How can I reach the
> "powers that be" at Microsoft to ask them to give this some attention?
>
> "Steve Rindsberg" wrote:
>
>> In article <BD8D7619-DDAC-43D9-9E52-(E-Mail Removed)>, Bh529
>> wrote:
>> > I really appreciate your reply Ute. I do print in grayscale, but the
>> > table
>> > borders still print black. I have been in the grayscale view, but in
>> > 2007 it
>> > no longer gives me the option to convert the selected table to
>> > grayscale.
>>
>> You're right. When you select a table, the grayscale options dim out and
>> are
>> inaccessible.
>>
>> You might experiment with this:
>>
>> Select the table
>> Press Ctrl+C to copy it
>> On the Home tab, Clipboard group click the downarrow beneath Paste
>> Choose Paste Special and pick EMF or WMF (experiment with both)
>> You'll be able to adjust grayscale settings for the pasted picture.
>>
>> But the picture will no longer be a table; keep a copy of the original
>> table
>> around in case you later need to edit it.
>>
>> -----------------------------------------
>> Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
>> PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
>> PPTools: www.pptools.com
>> ================================================
>>
>>
>>

It can be done!

* Go to the grayscale modus.
* Select the tables (or cells) you want with no border
* Go to Format-tab
* Choose shape fill --> no fill

The only downside ofcourse is that, if your table/cells did have a fill color, it will lose the fill color.



bh52 wrote:

PPT07: White table borders print black
09-Jul-08

When printing in grayscale or b/w, my white table borders turn black. I used
to be able to select the table in 2003, and convert it to grayscale to keep
the white borders, but I cannot do that in 2007

I have taken to PDFing the file before printing in b/w, but this won't
always work for my clients. Any way around this?
--
bh529

Previous Posts In This Thread:

On Wednesday, July 09, 2008 10:54 AM
bh52 wrote:

PPT07: White table borders print black
When printing in grayscale or b/w, my white table borders turn black. I used
to be able to select the table in 2003, and convert it to grayscale to keep
the white borders, but I cannot do that in 2007

I have taken to PDFing the file before printing in b/w, but this won't
always work for my clients. Any way around this?
--
bh529

On Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:44 AM
Ute Simon wrote:

Grayscale options are now on the view tab.
Grayscale options are now on the view tab. But you should avoid printing
pure Black & White, all modern printers are capable for Grayscale

Best regards
Ut


--
Ute Simo
Microsoft PowerPoint MVP Team und PowerPoint-User-Tea
Schon gesehen? www.ppt-user.de/blogger und www.ppt-tv.de

On Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:53 AM
bh52 wrote:

I really appreciate your reply Ute.
I really appreciate your reply Ute. I do print in grayscale, but the table
borders still print black. I have been in the grayscale view, but in 2007 it
no longer gives me the option to convert the selected table to grayscale.

I am hoping to find a way to keep the white borders white when
viewed/printed in grayscale

--
bh52

"Ute Simon" wrote:

On Wednesday, July 09, 2008 3:47 PM
bh52 wrote:

Thanks so much. I will do that before sending off to a client.
Thanks so much. I will do that before sending off to a client
-
bh52

"Steve Rindsberg" wrote:

On Friday, July 11, 2008 4:12 AM
Steve Rindsberg wrote:

Re: PPT07: White table borders print black
In article <BD8D7619-DDAC-43D9-9E52-(E-Mail Removed)>, Bh529 wrote

You're right. When you select a table, the grayscale options dim out and are
inaccessible

You might experiment with this

Select the tabl
Press Ctrl+C to copy i
On the Home tab, Clipboard group click the downarrow beneath Past
Choose Paste Special and pick EMF or WMF (experiment with both
You'll be able to adjust grayscale settings for the pasted picture

But the picture will no longer be a table; keep a copy of the original table
around in case you later need to edit it

----------------------------------------
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MV
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.co
PPTools: www.pptools.co
================================================

On Friday, August 14, 2009 5:28 PM
Anemone wrote:

So, um ...
So, um ... since this is a serious design flaw that many people are upse
with, it would be ubercool to be able to ask Microsoft to please *fix it -
and sooner rather than later!* I know the knowledge experts who respond her
are volunteers, so I am not mad ... just frustrated. How can I reach th
"powers that be" at Microsoft to ask them to give this some attention

"Steve Rindsberg" wrote:

On Friday, August 14, 2009 7:07 PM
Echo S wrote:

Trust me, I've b!
Trust me, I have b!tched about it enough that they are indeed aware of thi
issue. I am not holding my breath for a fix, though. I will definitel
forward your plea along, too

-
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.co
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.ht
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grc
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7n

Don't Miss the PPTLive User Conference! Atlanta | Oct 11-14

On Friday, August 14, 2009 11:59 PM
Steve Rindsberg wrote:

Re: PPT07: White table borders print black
Been there. Done that. Got the t-shirt with the frownyface.

Trust that it is been reported. And hammered on.


I know the knowledge experts who respond here


==============================
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http://www.pptfaq.com/

PPTools add-ins for PowerPoint
http://www.pptools.com/

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On Tuesday, March 02, 2010 4:38 AM
Idsinga wrote:

It can be done!
It can be done!

* Go to the grayscale modus.
* Select the tables (or cells) you want with no border
* Go to Format-tab
* Choose shape fill --> no fill

The only downside ofcourse is that, if your table/cells did have a fill color, it will lose the fill color.


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It can be done!

* Go to the grayscale modus.
* Select the tables (or cells) you want with no border
* Go to Format-tab
* Choose shape fill --> no fill

The only downside ofcourse is that, if your table/cells did have a fill color, it will lose the fill color.



bh52 wrote:

PPT07: White table borders print black
09-Jul-08

When printing in grayscale or b/w, my white table borders turn black. I used
to be able to select the table in 2003, and convert it to grayscale to keep
the white borders, but I cannot do that in 2007

I have taken to PDFing the file before printing in b/w, but this won't
always work for my clients. Any way around this?
--
bh529

Previous Posts In This Thread:

On Wednesday, July 09, 2008 10:54 AM
bh52 wrote:

PPT07: White table borders print black
When printing in grayscale or b/w, my white table borders turn black. I used
to be able to select the table in 2003, and convert it to grayscale to keep
the white borders, but I cannot do that in 2007

I have taken to PDFing the file before printing in b/w, but this won't
always work for my clients. Any way around this?
--
bh529

On Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:44 AM
Ute Simon wrote:

Grayscale options are now on the view tab.
Grayscale options are now on the view tab. But you should avoid printing
pure Black & White, all modern printers are capable for Grayscale

Best regards
Ut


--
Ute Simo
Microsoft PowerPoint MVP Team und PowerPoint-User-Tea
Schon gesehen? www.ppt-user.de/blogger und www.ppt-tv.de

On Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:53 AM
bh52 wrote:

I really appreciate your reply Ute.
I really appreciate your reply Ute. I do print in grayscale, but the table
borders still print black. I have been in the grayscale view, but in 2007 it
no longer gives me the option to convert the selected table to grayscale.

I am hoping to find a way to keep the white borders white when
viewed/printed in grayscale

--
bh52

"Ute Simon" wrote:

On Wednesday, July 09, 2008 3:47 PM
bh52 wrote:

Thanks so much. I will do that before sending off to a client.
Thanks so much. I will do that before sending off to a client
-
bh52

"Steve Rindsberg" wrote:

On Friday, July 11, 2008 4:12 AM
Steve Rindsberg wrote:

Re: PPT07: White table borders print black
In article <BD8D7619-DDAC-43D9-9E52-(E-Mail Removed)>, Bh529 wrote

You're right. When you select a table, the grayscale options dim out and are
inaccessible

You might experiment with this

Select the tabl
Press Ctrl+C to copy i
On the Home tab, Clipboard group click the downarrow beneath Past
Choose Paste Special and pick EMF or WMF (experiment with both
You'll be able to adjust grayscale settings for the pasted picture

But the picture will no longer be a table; keep a copy of the original table
around in case you later need to edit it

----------------------------------------
Steve Rindsberg, PPT MV
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.co
PPTools: www.pptools.co
================================================

On Friday, August 14, 2009 5:28 PM
Anemone wrote:

So, um ...
So, um ... since this is a serious design flaw that many people are upse
with, it would be ubercool to be able to ask Microsoft to please *fix it -
and sooner rather than later!* I know the knowledge experts who respond her
are volunteers, so I am not mad ... just frustrated. How can I reach th
"powers that be" at Microsoft to ask them to give this some attention

"Steve Rindsberg" wrote:

On Friday, August 14, 2009 7:07 PM
Echo S wrote:

Trust me, I've b!
Trust me, I have b!tched about it enough that they are indeed aware of thi
issue. I am not holding my breath for a fix, though. I will definitel
forward your plea along, too

-
Echo [MS PPT MVP] http://www.echosvoice.co
What's new in PPT 2007? http://www.echosvoice.com/2007.ht
Fixing PowerPoint Annoyances http://tinyurl.com/36grc
PowerPoint 2007 Complete Makeover Kit http://tinyurl.com/32a7n

Don't Miss the PPTLive User Conference! Atlanta | Oct 11-14

On Friday, August 14, 2009 11:59 PM
Steve Rindsberg wrote:

Re: PPT07: White table borders print black
Been there. Done that. Got the t-shirt with the frownyface.

Trust that it is been reported. And hammered on.


I know the knowledge experts who respond here


==============================
PPT Frequently Asked Questions
http://www.pptfaq.com/

PPTools add-ins for PowerPoint
http://www.pptools.com/

Don't Miss the PPTLive User Conference! Atlanta | Oct 11-14

On Tuesday, March 02, 2010 4:38 AM
Idsinga wrote:

It can be done!
It can be done!

* Go to the grayscale modus.
* Select the tables (or cells) you want with no border
* Go to Format-tab
* Choose shape fill --> no fill

The only downside ofcourse is that, if your table/cells did have a fill color, it will lose the fill color.

On Tuesday, March 02, 2010 4:38 AM
Idsinga wrote:

PPT07: White table borders print black
It can be done!

* Go to the grayscale modus.
* Select the tables (or cells) you want with no border
* Go to Format-tab
* Choose shape fill --> no fill

The only downside ofcourse is that, if your table/cells did have a fill color, it will lose the fill color.


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Great, another eggheader posting about something over a year old where the
OP is probably long gone. 09-Jul-08