I can't get my business cards to line up when I print them

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  1. jondix_01

    jondix_01 Guest

    I am trying to print business cards from publisher, using my own design
    rather than one of the publisher ones. The cards do not have an avery number
    but I have carefully measured all of the margins and put them into the page
    set up screen - the cards are 10 to a page (5 rows of 2) and do not have a
    gap between them so I have set the horizontal and vertical gap fields to 0.

    When I print them the first card is aligned correctly but then the printing
    on each successive one moves slowly upwards. After two or three cards they
    are totally misaligned. I have checked the settings several times but can
    find nothing wrong with them.

    What am I doing wrong? I can't think of anything else to check.

    Thanks

    Jon
     
    jondix_01, Aug 10, 2005
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  2. jondix_01

    Mary Sauer Guest

    If you are using an inkjet it could be the way the printer is picking up the stock.
    This is not a Publisher issue but a printer issue. Do you have a lever on your
    printer for heavier stock?

    --
    Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
    http://office.microsoft.com/
    http://msauer.mvps.org/
    news://msnews.microsoft.com
    "jondix_01" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >I am trying to print business cards from publisher, using my own design
    > rather than one of the publisher ones. The cards do not have an avery number
    > but I have carefully measured all of the margins and put them into the page
    > set up screen - the cards are 10 to a page (5 rows of 2) and do not have a
    > gap between them so I have set the horizontal and vertical gap fields to 0.
    >
    > When I print them the first card is aligned correctly but then the printing
    > on each successive one moves slowly upwards. After two or three cards they
    > are totally misaligned. I have checked the settings several times but can
    > find nothing wrong with them.
    >
    > What am I doing wrong? I can't think of anything else to check.
    >
    > Thanks
    >
    > Jon
     
    Mary Sauer, Aug 10, 2005
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  3. Your template is not set up correctly.. print onto plain paper and then
    overlay the paper onto your card stock..

    If you are using Avery templates on non-Avery card stock, you can't
    guarantee results without some fiddling.. likewise, if you use non-Avery
    templates with Avery card stock, the same will apply..

    If you have a problem with paper feed, it would show up with any kind of
    document.. for instance, if you were to load a text document into Publisher
    and then print it onto your card stock, I doubt that the text would
    gradually move up or move anywhere other than where it should be.. you might
    want to try this just to knock out the paper feed problem from the overall
    equation..

    --
    Mike Hall
    MVP - Windows Shell/User


    "jondix_01" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >I am trying to print business cards from publisher, using my own design
    > rather than one of the publisher ones. The cards do not have an avery
    > number
    > but I have carefully measured all of the margins and put them into the
    > page
    > set up screen - the cards are 10 to a page (5 rows of 2) and do not have a
    > gap between them so I have set the horizontal and vertical gap fields to
    > 0.
    >
    > When I print them the first card is aligned correctly but then the
    > printing
    > on each successive one moves slowly upwards. After two or three cards they
    > are totally misaligned. I have checked the settings several times but can
    > find nothing wrong with them.
    >
    > What am I doing wrong? I can't think of anything else to check.
    >
    > Thanks
    >
    > Jon
     
    Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\), Aug 10, 2005
    #3
  4. jondix_01

    Mary Sauer Guest

    I use to have a Canon that would not print in same place twice. The way I worked
    around was to print one copy at a time with only one piece of paper in the feed. It
    is the same with a color Epson I have now. Plain paper printing does not have this
    issue, nor does labels, it is the heavier stock.
    I can put 50 sheets of paper of any weight into my laser and it never prints wrong.
    I use all sorts of brand business cards (the best ones are not Avery, but they all
    are 2.5 x 3), they all do the same. It is the way the paper feeds into the rollers.

    --
    Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
    http://office.microsoft.com/
    http://msauer.mvps.org/
    news://msnews.microsoft.com
    "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" <> wrote in message
    news:%231uO3%...
    > Your template is not set up correctly.. print onto plain paper and then overlay the
    > paper onto your card stock..
    >
    > If you are using Avery templates on non-Avery card stock, you can't guarantee
    > results without some fiddling.. likewise, if you use non-Avery templates with Avery
    > card stock, the same will apply..
    >
    > If you have a problem with paper feed, it would show up with any kind of document..
    > for instance, if you were to load a text document into Publisher and then print it
    > onto your card stock, I doubt that the text would gradually move up or move
    > anywhere other than where it should be.. you might want to try this just to knock
    > out the paper feed problem from the overall equation..
    >
    > --
    > Mike Hall
    > MVP - Windows Shell/User
    >
    >
    > "jondix_01" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >>I am trying to print business cards from publisher, using my own design
    >> rather than one of the publisher ones. The cards do not have an avery number
    >> but I have carefully measured all of the margins and put them into the page
    >> set up screen - the cards are 10 to a page (5 rows of 2) and do not have a
    >> gap between them so I have set the horizontal and vertical gap fields to 0.
    >>
    >> When I print them the first card is aligned correctly but then the printing
    >> on each successive one moves slowly upwards. After two or three cards they
    >> are totally misaligned. I have checked the settings several times but can
    >> find nothing wrong with them.
    >>
    >> What am I doing wrong? I can't think of anything else to check.
    >>
    >> Thanks
    >>
    >> Jon

    >
    >
     
    Mary Sauer, Aug 10, 2005
    #4
  5. Mary

    What can I say other than you should have purchased an HP.. :)

    I have had happen what the OP describes, but it was down to me using the
    incorrect mixture of template and card stock.. however, I do not doubt for a
    second that you have a valid and worthwhile point, especially as you are not
    the proud owner of a DeskJet..

    Enter JoAnn stage left <space> <space> "we love HP, we love HP"..

    --
    Mike Hall
    MVP - Windows Shell/User


    "Mary Sauer" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >I use to have a Canon that would not print in same place twice. The way I
    >worked around was to print one copy at a time with only one piece of paper
    >in the feed. It is the same with a color Epson I have now. Plain paper
    >printing does not have this issue, nor does labels, it is the heavier
    >stock.
    > I can put 50 sheets of paper of any weight into my laser and it never
    > prints wrong.
    > I use all sorts of brand business cards (the best ones are not Avery, but
    > they all are 2.5 x 3), they all do the same. It is the way the paper feeds
    > into the rollers.
    >
    > --
    > Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
    > http://office.microsoft.com/
    > http://msauer.mvps.org/
    > news://msnews.microsoft.com
    > "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" <> wrote in message
    > news:%231uO3%...
    >> Your template is not set up correctly.. print onto plain paper and then
    >> overlay the paper onto your card stock..
    >>
    >> If you are using Avery templates on non-Avery card stock, you can't
    >> guarantee results without some fiddling.. likewise, if you use non-Avery
    >> templates with Avery card stock, the same will apply..
    >>
    >> If you have a problem with paper feed, it would show up with any kind of
    >> document.. for instance, if you were to load a text document into
    >> Publisher and then print it onto your card stock, I doubt that the text
    >> would gradually move up or move anywhere other than where it should be..
    >> you might want to try this just to knock out the paper feed problem from
    >> the overall equation..
    >>
    >> --
    >> Mike Hall
    >> MVP - Windows Shell/User
    >>
    >>
    >> "jondix_01" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >>>I am trying to print business cards from publisher, using my own design
    >>> rather than one of the publisher ones. The cards do not have an avery
    >>> number
    >>> but I have carefully measured all of the margins and put them into the
    >>> page
    >>> set up screen - the cards are 10 to a page (5 rows of 2) and do not have
    >>> a
    >>> gap between them so I have set the horizontal and vertical gap fields to
    >>> 0.
    >>>
    >>> When I print them the first card is aligned correctly but then the
    >>> printing
    >>> on each successive one moves slowly upwards. After two or three cards
    >>> they
    >>> are totally misaligned. I have checked the settings several times but
    >>> can
    >>> find nothing wrong with them.
    >>>
    >>> What am I doing wrong? I can't think of anything else to check.
    >>>
    >>> Thanks
    >>>
    >>> Jon

    >>
    >>

    >
    >
     
    Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\), Aug 10, 2005
    #5
  6. jondix_01

    Mary Sauer Guest

    I have had several color printers over the years, never a HP. I have a HP LaserJet
    5000. A wonderful printer...

    I have no quarrel with Epson, it prints pretty good photos, pretty good is about all
    I need.
    I am considering a HP. I like the sound of the thermal color technology.
    Vista arrived today...

    --
    Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
    http://office.microsoft.com/
    http://msauer.mvps.org/
    news://msnews.microsoft.com
    "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Mary
    >
    > What can I say other than you should have purchased an HP.. :)
    >
    > I have had happen what the OP describes, but it was down to me using the incorrect
    > mixture of template and card stock.. however, I do not doubt for a second that you
    > have a valid and worthwhile point, especially as you are not the proud owner of a
    > DeskJet..
    >
    > Enter JoAnn stage left <space> <space> "we love HP, we love HP"..
    >
    > --
    > Mike Hall
    > MVP - Windows Shell/User
    >
    >
    > "Mary Sauer" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >>I use to have a Canon that would not print in same place twice. The way I worked
    >>around was to print one copy at a time with only one piece of paper in the feed. It
    >>is the same with a color Epson I have now. Plain paper printing does not have this
    >>issue, nor does labels, it is the heavier stock.
    >> I can put 50 sheets of paper of any weight into my laser and it never prints
    >> wrong.
    >> I use all sorts of brand business cards (the best ones are not Avery, but they all
    >> are 2.5 x 3), they all do the same. It is the way the paper feeds into the
    >> rollers.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
    >> http://office.microsoft.com/
    >> http://msauer.mvps.org/
    >> news://msnews.microsoft.com
    >> "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" <> wrote in message
    >> news:%231uO3%...
    >>> Your template is not set up correctly.. print onto plain paper and then overlay
    >>> the paper onto your card stock..
    >>>
    >>> If you are using Avery templates on non-Avery card stock, you can't guarantee
    >>> results without some fiddling.. likewise, if you use non-Avery templates with
    >>> Avery card stock, the same will apply..
    >>>
    >>> If you have a problem with paper feed, it would show up with any kind of
    >>> document.. for instance, if you were to load a text document into Publisher and
    >>> then print it onto your card stock, I doubt that the text would gradually move up
    >>> or move anywhere other than where it should be.. you might want to try this just
    >>> to knock out the paper feed problem from the overall equation..
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>> Mike Hall
    >>> MVP - Windows Shell/User
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "jondix_01" <> wrote in message
    >>> news:...
    >>>>I am trying to print business cards from publisher, using my own design
    >>>> rather than one of the publisher ones. The cards do not have an avery number
    >>>> but I have carefully measured all of the margins and put them into the page
    >>>> set up screen - the cards are 10 to a page (5 rows of 2) and do not have a
    >>>> gap between them so I have set the horizontal and vertical gap fields to 0.
    >>>>
    >>>> When I print them the first card is aligned correctly but then the printing
    >>>> on each successive one moves slowly upwards. After two or three cards they
    >>>> are totally misaligned. I have checked the settings several times but can
    >>>> find nothing wrong with them.
    >>>>
    >>>> What am I doing wrong? I can't think of anything else to check.
    >>>>
    >>>> Thanks
    >>>>
    >>>> Jon
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >>

    >
    >
     
    Mary Sauer, Aug 10, 2005
    #6
  7. jondix_01

    Ed Bennett Guest

    Donna in Idaho < (remove spam)> was very
    recently heard to utter:
    > When I got ready to take my empty cartridges
    > to the Girl Scouts recently for recycling - here's what I had used
    > since buying the printer - 4 cyan, 3 magenta, and 2 yellow. Since I
    > could replace them individually on my Epson, I wasn't throwing away
    > unused ink.


    If you think you were throwing away a lot of ink on the Canon, you should
    see how much you waste using an Epson that doesn't have the multiple ink
    tanks.

    --
    Ed Bennett - MVP Microsoft Publisher
     
    Ed Bennett, Aug 10, 2005
    #7
  8. jondix_01

    Ed Bennett Guest

    Ed Bennett <> was very recently heard to utter:
    > Canon


    Freudian slip - meant HP - sorry

    --
    Ed Bennett - MVP Microsoft Publisher
     
    Ed Bennett, Aug 10, 2005
    #8
  9. jondix_01

    jondix_01 Guest

    I don't think it can be that as the first row of two cards on the page are
    correctly aligned. I assume it must that it thinks the busiess cards are
    slightly smaller than they really are. I expect I could cure it by fiddling
    with the card size and gap settings on the page set up screen but it seems
    odd that this is happening as they are undoubtedly "correct."

    Thanks for all the replies, any other suggestions gratefully received.

    "Mary Sauer" wrote:

    > If you are using an inkjet it could be the way the printer is picking up the stock.
    > This is not a Publisher issue but a printer issue. Do you have a lever on your
    > printer for heavier stock?
    >
    > --
    > Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
    > http://office.microsoft.com/
    > http://msauer.mvps.org/
    > news://msnews.microsoft.com
    > "jondix_01" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > >I am trying to print business cards from publisher, using my own design
    > > rather than one of the publisher ones. The cards do not have an avery number
    > > but I have carefully measured all of the margins and put them into the page
    > > set up screen - the cards are 10 to a page (5 rows of 2) and do not have a
    > > gap between them so I have set the horizontal and vertical gap fields to 0.
    > >
    > > When I print them the first card is aligned correctly but then the printing
    > > on each successive one moves slowly upwards. After two or three cards they
    > > are totally misaligned. I have checked the settings several times but can
    > > find nothing wrong with them.
    > >
    > > What am I doing wrong? I can't think of anything else to check.
    > >
    > > Thanks
    > >
    > > Jon

    >
    >
    >
     
    jondix_01, Aug 10, 2005
    #9
  10. jondix_01

    Mary Sauer Guest

    You could setup your page manually, Arrange, side margins .75, top & bottom margin
    ..5. five rows, 2 columns. I doubt this will make any difference in the print. But if
    you have to adjust it will be easier. Draw a line around the cards, print a draft and
    compare it to your business card stock.

    --
    Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
    http://office.microsoft.com/
    http://msauer.mvps.org/
    news://msnews.microsoft.com
    "jondix_01" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >I don't think it can be that as the first row of two cards on the page are
    > correctly aligned. I assume it must that it thinks the busiess cards are
    > slightly smaller than they really are. I expect I could cure it by fiddling
    > with the card size and gap settings on the page set up screen but it seems
    > odd that this is happening as they are undoubtedly "correct."
    >
    > Thanks for all the replies, any other suggestions gratefully received.
    >
    > "Mary Sauer" wrote:
    >
    >> If you are using an inkjet it could be the way the printer is picking up the
    >> stock.
    >> This is not a Publisher issue but a printer issue. Do you have a lever on your
    >> printer for heavier stock?
    >>
    >> --
    >> Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
    >> http://office.microsoft.com/
    >> http://msauer.mvps.org/
    >> news://msnews.microsoft.com
    >> "jondix_01" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >> >I am trying to print business cards from publisher, using my own design
    >> > rather than one of the publisher ones. The cards do not have an avery number
    >> > but I have carefully measured all of the margins and put them into the page
    >> > set up screen - the cards are 10 to a page (5 rows of 2) and do not have a
    >> > gap between them so I have set the horizontal and vertical gap fields to 0.
    >> >
    >> > When I print them the first card is aligned correctly but then the printing
    >> > on each successive one moves slowly upwards. After two or three cards they
    >> > are totally misaligned. I have checked the settings several times but can
    >> > find nothing wrong with them.
    >> >
    >> > What am I doing wrong? I can't think of anything else to check.
    >> >
    >> > Thanks
    >> >
    >> > Jon

    >>
    >>
    >>
     
    Mary Sauer, Aug 10, 2005
    #10
  11. jondix_01

    drc023 Guest

    Instead of printing a full business card, setup a new one with only two
    boxes. One will be the outside border of the card, 2" x 3.5", set the other
    one at 1.5" x 3" and center it. Use a .5 line weight. Once these are printed
    you can measure the distances between lines and determine what percentage
    they are off. If it is a printer problem, you won't be able to correct it by
    tweaking the gap settings. You'll need to set up the cards on a standard
    size sheet and adjust them to correspond to the desired output.
    --
    Ron Cohen

    "jondix_01" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >I don't think it can be that as the first row of two cards on the page are
    > correctly aligned. I assume it must that it thinks the busiess cards are
    > slightly smaller than they really are. I expect I could cure it by
    > fiddling
    > with the card size and gap settings on the page set up screen but it seems
    > odd that this is happening as they are undoubtedly "correct."
    >
    > Thanks for all the replies, any other suggestions gratefully received.
    >
    > "Mary Sauer" wrote:
    >
    >> If you are using an inkjet it could be the way the printer is picking up
    >> the stock.
    >> This is not a Publisher issue but a printer issue. Do you have a lever on
    >> your
    >> printer for heavier stock?
    >>
    >> --
    >> Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
    >> http://office.microsoft.com/
    >> http://msauer.mvps.org/
    >> news://msnews.microsoft.com
    >> "jondix_01" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >> >I am trying to print business cards from publisher, using my own design
    >> > rather than one of the publisher ones. The cards do not have an avery
    >> > number
    >> > but I have carefully measured all of the margins and put them into the
    >> > page
    >> > set up screen - the cards are 10 to a page (5 rows of 2) and do not
    >> > have a
    >> > gap between them so I have set the horizontal and vertical gap fields
    >> > to 0.
    >> >
    >> > When I print them the first card is aligned correctly but then the
    >> > printing
    >> > on each successive one moves slowly upwards. After two or three cards
    >> > they
    >> > are totally misaligned. I have checked the settings several times but
    >> > can
    >> > find nothing wrong with them.
    >> >
    >> > What am I doing wrong? I can't think of anything else to check.
    >> >
    >> > Thanks
    >> >
    >> > Jon

    >>
    >>
    >>
     
    drc023, Aug 10, 2005
    #11
  12. jondix_01

    Wildfire563 Guest

    Hi,
    I believe this user may have a valid point, though I don't understand why
    you are not getting more calls on this problem. I just purchased an HP
    6540xi Deskjet. Are you using a Borderless print setup to print the cards?
    I am having a similar problem, and it only occurs with the Microsoft Office
    products (both Powerpoint and Publisher). I don't understand what you mean
    by "moves upward". My problem is that MS is stretching the image in the
    lengthwise direction. Even though the paper measures 11" long, and the image
    is set up at 11" long in MSO, the image is about .25" too long for the paper
    when printed. It prints fine in the widthwise direction. I have tried
    printing images from other software packages and it works fine. One
    difference is that MS seems to use their own driver to print. I have the
    driver set up to show a preview from the printer driver before it prints. It
    shows this preview when I print from other packages, but not when I print
    from MS Office products.

    Any thoughts? This is not a printer issue per se, because it does print
    images sized to the full page just fine from other packages. I am, so far,
    only seeing this problem from Office products.

    Thomas

    "jondix_01" wrote:

    > I am trying to print business cards from publisher, using my own design
    > rather than one of the publisher ones. The cards do not have an avery number
    > but I have carefully measured all of the margins and put them into the page
    > set up screen - the cards are 10 to a page (5 rows of 2) and do not have a
    > gap between them so I have set the horizontal and vertical gap fields to 0.
    >
    > When I print them the first card is aligned correctly but then the printing
    > on each successive one moves slowly upwards. After two or three cards they
    > are totally misaligned. I have checked the settings several times but can
    > find nothing wrong with them.
    >
    > What am I doing wrong? I can't think of anything else to check.
    >
    > Thanks
    >
    > Jon
     
    Wildfire563, Sep 8, 2005
    #12
  13. Wildfire563 wrote:
    > difference is that MS seems to use their own driver to print.


    That is incorrect. Office (or I should say all MS products) use the
    printer's driver. This would be an issue with your printer driver. See about
    updating your printer driver from the HP website or contact HP direct.
    --
    Brian Kvalheim
    Microsoft Publisher MVP
    http://www.publishermvps.com

    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
    confers no rights.
     
    Brian Kvalheim [MSFT MVP], Sep 8, 2005
    #13
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