Line Spacing - Last line in Paragraph

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BJSmithCO

I've noticed that in every single paragraph in my 6-page document, the line
spacing seems to change on every last line of every paragraph. If the line
is continued with another sentence, that line shifts upwards and the next
line is then spaced improperly. How do I control this behavior, or is it a
bug I just have to live with?
 
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Chuck Davis

-----Original Message-----
I've noticed that in every single paragraph in my 6-page document, the line
spacing seems to change on every last line of every paragraph. If the line
is continued with another sentence, that line shifts upwards and the next
line is then spaced improperly. How do I control this behavior, or is it a
bug I just have to live with?
You didn't specify which version. For Publisher 2003, click
in the text box, hold down Ctrl and click on A (to select
all) and choose Paragraph from the Format drop down menu,
click on Indents and Spacing. Set the line spacing as you
require.
 
M

Miss Perspicacia Tick

BJSmithCO said:
I've noticed that in every single paragraph in my 6-page document,
the line spacing seems to change on every last line of every
paragraph. If the line is continued with another sentence, that line
shifts upwards and the next line is then spaced improperly. How do I
control this behavior, or is it a bug I just have to live with?


Sounds like you're another moronic fuckwit who cannot tell the difference
between a Word group and a Publisher group. Go post in the right place,
idiot!
 
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BJSmithCO

Thanks for your answer, but how to set line spacing was not my question.
What I am concerned about is the fact that, despite the line spacing
settings, every single last line of every single paragraph violates the line
spacing setting and hangs lower than it should. This effect is even
noticeable in the untouched templates that come with Publisher 2003. If the
last line of a paragraph were extended to add yet another line, you can
actually observe the line jump back up to where it should be (and then the
new last line is hanging too low).

For example, start a new Publisher 2003 document using the Newsletter
template entitled "Accent Box Newsletter". Without changing anything, it is
quite apparent that the last line of every paragraph is spaced differently
than the rest of its same paragraphy above it. In the newsletter I am
currently working on, I use a 9pt Gill Sans MT typeface set to single line
spacing. When printed, the distance between the bottom of the line above and
the top of the lower case characters below is approximately 2mm, except for
the last line of the paragraph where the spacing is a full 1mm lower. While
that doesn't seem to be much, it is very noticable and annoying.

Hope that clarifies my original question.
 
B

BJSmithCO

Thanks, Bob. That worked fine. I'm still confused as to why this doesn't
work properly.
 
E

Ed Bennett

While in a state of ecstasy after repairing his laptop, Ed sees a
message from BJSmithCO said:
Thanks, Bob. That worked fine. I'm still confused as to why this
doesn't work properly.

It DOES work properly! It is doing exactly what it is told to.

Space between paragraphs adds a little extra space between each paragraph
(where Return or Enter is pressed) compared to between soft line breaks
within a paragraph. It makes things a little more readable as you can see
where paragraphs begin and end.

When you import text from web pages, sometimes it gives you a little too
much space between paragraphs.
 
B

BJSmithCO

My question was not about the "after-paragraph" spacing used to visually
separate paragraphs. It dealt with the fact that any setting other than "0"
for this after-paragraph" spacing results in this setting is incorrectly
modifying the line spacing of the paragraph as well, but only the distance
between the very last line of the paragraph and the line immediately above
it. As a result, the last line of the paragraph appears to hang by itself.
That has to be an anomaly as there is no legitimate publishing reason for the
last line of a paragraph to be spaced differently than the rest of the
paragraph. You can watch the last line of the paragraph move up or down just
by changing the "after-paragraph" line spacing. That should not happen!
Only the distance BETWEEN paragraphs should change.
 
E

Ed Bennett

While in a state of ecstasy after repairing his laptop, Ed sees a
message from BJSmithCO said:
You can watch the last line of the paragraph move up or
down just by changing the "after-paragraph" line spacing. That
should not happen! Only the distance BETWEEN paragraphs should
change.

You are right, that is most odd (and it repros over here now)
Let me do some following up on this...
 
D

Dimarc67

One other work-around is to place a "soft return" (Shift-Enter) at the end of
each paragraph before the carriage (hard-) return. Don't know that this is
preferable to the pseudo-soloution already discussed, but I thought I'd
mention it...

David Marcus
 
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FredBasset

Yes, I've noticed this too... and extremely annoying it is too. In Publisher
XP it was only visible on the screen display, which was annoying but
bearable, but when I upgraded to Publisher 2003 it is also present on the
print preview and the resultant actual print.

What seems to happen is that the "after paragraph" spacing figure seems to
be split 50%/50% between before and after the last line of the paragraph. For
instance, say I have an after paragraph spacing of 10pt, the last line is
spaced 5pt from the penultimate line and 5pt from the first line of the next
paragraph.

This seriously affects my ability to use publisher for a magazine I publish,
as i means that I have to set the spacing to zero and inert blank lines at
whatever text size I want to space things properly (which doesn't work when
the split happens to be over a page or column break.)

How about a bugfix Microsoft?
 
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Mickey

I've seen this phenomenon on my screen, but when I print the document, it's
okay. I think it's just a screen anomaly. If your documents print correctly,
last line and all, ignore it.
 
S

stew

I have seen this happen over and over and over again. I don't do much in
Publisher but when I am mind boggled that something as little as this hasn't
been fixed by Microsoft!!!!

I tjust isn't on screen it's on the print out too!!!

It's the little things like this that drive people NUTS!!!

This "feature" was identified to MS back in 2004 or earlier and it's STILL
HERE!!

stew
 
C

conservator

We found the problem when we used Gill Sans font. As soon as we changed to a
different font (Arial, Verdana, Garamond, etc.), the problem disappeared
without having to do anything special, and still retaining the after
paragraph spacing we wanted. Seems to be a problem associated with font type.
 
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Les Argen

Oh my god. That is is exactly it. Gill sans.

conservator said:
We found the problem when we used Gill Sans font. As soon as we changed to a
different font (Arial, Verdana, Garamond, etc.), the problem disappeared
without having to do anything special, and still retaining the after
paragraph spacing we wanted. Seems to be a problem associated with font type.
 
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Mr. Analogy

Suggestion from Mary Sauer seems to have fixed it for me:

Have you tried the baseline guides? You can turn them on in View menu. In the
Format menu, Paragraph, Indents and Spacing tab, check *Align text to baseline
guides*.
 

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