Allow multiple tags in one text line.

[HeWhoTalksTooMuch]

Very often I have the need to mark a line of text with more than one tag.
This helps a LOT when creating first drafts. (i.e. "Reference needed,"
"Figure needed," or "Re-word")

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[Rainald Taesler]

Very often I have the need to mark a line of text with more than
one tag

Where's the problem?
One can as many tags as one needs.

Or: Am I missing something?

Rainald

 

[HeWhoTalksTooMuch]

I apologize for my ambiguity.

When I tag more than one word or section of words in a single line of text,
the following occurs:

The text formatting (highlight and text color) for the last-added tag takes
precedence and changes the entire line of text to that color and highlight.

I believe OneNote to be a VERY strong tool for document development, or
"thought development" or "process development." Often, in one line, you may
want to tag items for follow up- not adding an Outlook task- but rather, a
visual cue that you need to perform an action.

As I scan these types of multi-object and detailed texts, I'd like to see,
say, three words that remind me to get more detail for that specific thing.
At the same time, an entirely different task may be required for that line of
text. In the example below, the brackets [ ] represent one of my tags, the
parens ( ) another, and these things { } another. These are all, by the way,
customized tags with unique text formatting (highlighting and text color.)
This is a real-life example:

"Apply [Clamping Block] to Widget123 such that its holes align. Position
clamped Widget123 into the {holding fixture}. Apply marking to Widget in the
area shown in (Figure 1.)"

Tag [ ] for me might mean: "Design and build this tool" with a tag name
"Need Tool"

Tag { } for me might mean: "Retreive and insert tool number here" with a tag
name "Insert Tool Number"

Tag ( ) for me means that I need to create a figure or take a photograph.

As you can see (hopefully) this one block of text requires multiple tags,
with multiple visual cues. I might grab the camera, and scan my entire
document for "picture needed" tags- this way I perform all the necessary work
more efficiently. I would next move on to the tool crib, grabbing all the
tool numbers represented by those tags.

I hope this makes more sense. The application already makes my life a LOT
easier- it can just be better, and expand its appeal to, perhaps, other uses.

 

[Rainald Taesler]

I apologize for my ambiguity.

When I tag more than one word or section of words in a single line
of text, the following occurs:

Thanks for the explanations.
I for one can not be of help as I hardly work with tagging :-( :-(
Hopefully some knowledgeable people my jump in.

Apart from finding workarounds:
You may post a suggestion for the next version in "Connect", the place
for submitting suggestions and bug reports to the developers team:
http://connect.microsoft.com/onenote/

When done, pls drop a note with the URL in here so that we can jump in
and vote for your suggestion

Rainald

 

[Ilya Koulchin]

OneNote does allow multiple tags, however, all tags apply to an entire
paragraph, so if multiple tags have a highlighting style only one will
be visible. If you use tags with icons instead of highlights, you will
be able to use up to 9 tags per paragraph.

I apologize for my ambiguity.

When I tag more than one word or section of words in a single line of text,
the following occurs:

The text formatting (highlight and text color) for the last-added tag takes
precedence and changes the entire line of text to that color and highlight.

I believe OneNote to be a VERY strong tool for document development, or
"thought development" or "process development." Often, in one line, you may
want to tag items for follow up- not adding an Outlook task- but rather, a
visual cue that you need to perform an action.

As I scan these types of multi-object and detailed texts, I'd like to see,
say, three words that remind me to get more detail for that specific thing.
At the same time, an entirely different task may be required for that line of
text. In the example below, the brackets [ ] represent one of my tags, the
parens ( ) another, and these things { } another. These are all, by the way,
customized tags with unique text formatting (highlighting and text color.)
This is a real-life example:

"Apply [Clamping Block] to Widget123 such that its holes align. Position
clamped Widget123 into the {holding fixture}. Apply marking to Widget in the
area shown in (Figure 1.)"

Tag [ ] for me might mean: "Design and build this tool" with a tag name
"Need Tool"

Tag { } for me might mean: "Retreive and insert tool number here" with a tag
name "Insert Tool Number"

Tag ( ) for me means that I need to create a figure or take a photograph.

As you can see (hopefully) this one block of text requires multiple tags,
with multiple visual cues. I might grab the camera, and scan my entire
document for "picture needed" tags- this way I perform all the necessary work
more efficiently. I would next move on to the tool crib, grabbing all the
tool numbers represented by those tags.

I hope this makes more sense. The application already makes my life a LOT
easier- it can just be better, and expand its appeal to, perhaps, other uses.

Where's the problem?
One can as many tags as one needs.

Or: Am I missing something?

Rainald

 

[HeWhoTalksTooMuch]

Ilya- I agree that this is how it works, I am suggesting that it works
differently.

The true power behind OneNote, IMO, is the ability to DEVELOP ideas. It
hasn't constrained itself to using only text, or only line drawings- it can
use video, screen captures, images, text, OCR, scanners, and record sound.
Why should it then force you to tag an entire paragraph? Especially when,
logically, that paragraph represents a discreet thought that may include
detailed, lower-level thoughts that translate into actions needed?

If this is what is required, then we might as well go back to using Word,
and doing a huge, multi-level outline.

By allowing multiple tags- visually unique for ANY amount of selected text-
you bring further ability to logically "note-take" or "organize" or
"develop."

What is frustrating is that the ability to format text is so easily achieved
in other applications, but in OneNote it has been overlooked.

Again- this is a very very strong tool for many people, but it needs to be
sold that way. This will help sell it.

OneNote does allow multiple tags, however, all tags apply to an entire
paragraph, so if multiple tags have a highlighting style only one will
be visible. If you use tags with icons instead of highlights, you will
be able to use up to 9 tags per paragraph.

I apologize for my ambiguity.

When I tag more than one word or section of words in a single line of text,
the following occurs:

The text formatting (highlight and text color) for the last-added tag takes
precedence and changes the entire line of text to that color and highlight.

I believe OneNote to be a VERY strong tool for document development, or
"thought development" or "process development." Often, in one line, you may
want to tag items for follow up- not adding an Outlook task- but rather, a
visual cue that you need to perform an action.

As I scan these types of multi-object and detailed texts, I'd like to see,
say, three words that remind me to get more detail for that specific thing.
At the same time, an entirely different task may be required for that line of
text. In the example below, the brackets [ ] represent one of my tags, the
parens ( ) another, and these things { } another. These are all, by the way,
customized tags with unique text formatting (highlighting and text color.)
This is a real-life example:

"Apply [Clamping Block] to Widget123 such that its holes align. Position
clamped Widget123 into the {holding fixture}. Apply marking to Widget in the
area shown in (Figure 1.)"

Tag [ ] for me might mean: "Design and build this tool" with a tag name
"Need Tool"

Tag { } for me might mean: "Retreive and insert tool number here" with a tag
name "Insert Tool Number"

Tag ( ) for me means that I need to create a figure or take a photograph.

As you can see (hopefully) this one block of text requires multiple tags,
with multiple visual cues. I might grab the camera, and scan my entire
document for "picture needed" tags- this way I perform all the necessary work
more efficiently. I would next move on to the tool crib, grabbing all the
tool numbers represented by those tags.

I hope this makes more sense. The application already makes my life a LOT
easier- it can just be better, and expand its appeal to, perhaps, other uses.

HeWhoTalksTooMuch schrieb:

Very often I have the need to mark a line of text with more than
one tag
Where's the problem?
One can as many tags as one needs.

Or: Am I missing something?

Rainald

 

[Steve Silverwood]

Ilya- I agree that this is how it works, I am suggesting that it works
differently.

The true power behind OneNote, IMO, is the ability to DEVELOP ideas. It
hasn't constrained itself to using only text, or only line drawings- it can
use video, screen captures, images, text, OCR, scanners, and record sound.
Why should it then force you to tag an entire paragraph? Especially when,
logically, that paragraph represents a discreet thought that may include
detailed, lower-level thoughts that translate into actions needed?

If this is what is required, then we might as well go back to using Word,
and doing a huge, multi-level outline.

By allowing multiple tags- visually unique for ANY amount of selected text-
you bring further ability to logically "note-take" or "organize" or
"develop."

What is frustrating is that the ability to format text is so easily achieved
in other applications, but in OneNote it has been overlooked.

Again- this is a very very strong tool for many people, but it needs to be
sold that way. This will help sell it.

OneNote does allow multiple tags, however, all tags apply to an entire
paragraph, so if multiple tags have a highlighting style only one will
be visible. If you use tags with icons instead of highlights, you will
be able to use up to 9 tags per paragraph.

I apologize for my ambiguity.

When I tag more than one word or section of words in a single line of text,
the following occurs:

The text formatting (highlight and text color) for the last-added tag takes
precedence and changes the entire line of text to that color and highlight.

I believe OneNote to be a VERY strong tool for document development, or
"thought development" or "process development." Often, in one line, you may
want to tag items for follow up- not adding an Outlook task- but rather, a
visual cue that you need to perform an action.

As I scan these types of multi-object and detailed texts, I'd like to see,
say, three words that remind me to get more detail for that specific thing.
At the same time, an entirely different task may be required for that line of
text. In the example below, the brackets [ ] represent one of my tags, the
parens ( ) another, and these things { } another. These are all, by the way,
customized tags with unique text formatting (highlighting and text color.)
This is a real-life example:

"Apply [Clamping Block] to Widget123 such that its holes align. Position
clamped Widget123 into the {holding fixture}. Apply marking to Widget in the
area shown in (Figure 1.)"

Tag [ ] for me might mean: "Design and build this tool" with a tag name
"Need Tool"

Tag { } for me might mean: "Retreive and insert tool number here" with a tag
name "Insert Tool Number"

Tag ( ) for me means that I need to create a figure or take a photograph.

As you can see (hopefully) this one block of text requires multiple tags,
with multiple visual cues. I might grab the camera, and scan my entire
document for "picture needed" tags- this way I perform all the necessary work
more efficiently. I would next move on to the tool crib, grabbing all the
tool numbers represented by those tags.

I hope this makes more sense. The application already makes my life a LOT
easier- it can just be better, and expand its appeal to, perhaps, other uses.

What I would do is to make tags separate from font colors. Do away
with highlighting. You can select the text you want to identify,
right-click on it and select Fonts. Change the color of that selected
text to whatever color you wish to associate with a given subject.
Unfortunately, that won't allow you to have the text colored with more
than one color, but it WILL allow you to color-code individual
segments of text as you deem necessary.

//Steve//

Steve Silverwood, KB6OJS
Email: (e-mail address removed)
Web: http://kb6ojs.com