Mvps & website owners pls comment

[GL]

You don't know me but I know you. Your the wonderful people who give free
help when we get stuck with Access. Your the wonderful people who put up
websites with instructions on how to use Access, databases, excel etc.
Firstly I want to thank you and tell you it's very much apprciated. I've
learned alot thanks to the time you spent helping us. Secondly I want to ask
you not to stop giving us help. Please don't take down your web pages. Many
people depend on your help and articals at your websites for details we can't
find in online hlep. Thirdly there's a man named Alessandro Baraldi copying
code and articals he FINDS on the net and puts it on his website claiming
he's the author. He thinks it's ok to copy copyrighted work because he FOUND
it on the net and he can put it on his webstie with his own name on it. Some
of this work maybe yours or someone you know. If you want him to stop
stealing other people's work please tell him in no uncertain terms what he's
doing is WRONG. If you don't mind him stealing code and articals then you
don't need to do anything. Here's the messsage which explains what's going on

http://www.microsoft.com/office/com...dcef&mid=7ca2d87e-0622-485e-bbf3-a3c835e60a75

May be you should all check his website to see if he found YOUR code and
articals and put HIS name on them.

Regards

Gary L.

 

[aaron.kempf]

I would reccomend:

a) using Access Data Projects instead of silly MDB files
b) sharing your source code and not giving a rats ass who steals it.

Good luck, kids

-Aaron

 

[Tom Wickerath]

Gary,

Your reaction to Alessandro is not an appropriate display in a public forum
such as this. It would only be appropriate if you had first contacted Alex by
private e-mail message, expressing your concerns, if he had either ignored
your message (after a sufficient time for reply) or replied in a manner that
basically told you where to go.

The web pages in question that you sited by Camaro (aka Gunny) are Gunny's
property, not mine. However, I believe that I can speak on Gunny's behalf,
given that I have a long standing relationship with this person.

I think you own Alex a public apology!


Tom Wickerath
Microsoft Access MVP

http://www.access.qbuilt.com/html/expert_contributors.html
http://www.access.qbuilt.com/html/search.html
__________________________________________

 

[Wayne-I-M]

Me dispiace Alessandro, non so se hanno la ragione o fanno non ma c'è la
ragione per la natura della lettera.

GL - Copied from your copyright post

I want to search in english and find what I need. I don't want to have to translate from italian or anotehr language

Why Not ? What is wrong with Italian - or any other other language for that
reason. Remember that 86.5% of people do not speak English (this fact was
stolen from Wikipedia.com)

I think I agree with Tom in that this is not the place for this type of
"chat".

Oh and feel free to copy any of my code and put it on any site - there
really are more important things in life to worry about.

 

[Alessandro Baraldi]

Wayne-I-M ha scritto:

Me dispiace Alessandro, non so se hanno la ragione o fanno non ma c'è la
ragione per la natura della lettera.

GL - Copied from your copyright post

Why Not ? What is wrong with Italian - or any other other language for that
reason. Remember that 86.5% of people do not speak English (this fact was
stolen from Wikipedia.com)

I think I agree with Tom in that this is not the place for this type of
"chat".

Oh and feel free to copy any of my code and put it on any site - there
really are more important things in life to worry about.

Hi Wayne don't worry about Gary....
I agree about the most important things in our life, so this on my mind
is after the
last problem.

Thanks.
@Alex

 

[Wayne-I-M]

Qualche gente è solo rude
Non ho dei biscotti per il mio caffè - questo è un MOLTO GRANDE problema per
me -

 

[aaron.kempf]

btw; speak english or die

Qualche gente è solo rude
Non ho dei biscotti per il mio caffè - questo è un MOLTO GRANDE problema per
me -

 

[dbahooker]

I'll show you some biscotti, mofo

btw; speak english or die

 

[dbahooker]

what is that, anyways.. Italian?

I didn't know that Italy was still around; I figured that they got
their ass kicked my Ethiopia or something again

ROFL

 

[GL]

It would only be appropriate if you had first contacted Alex by

private e-mail message, expressing your concerns, if he had either ignored
your message (after a sufficient time for reply) or replied in a manner that
basically told you where to go.

Thank you for comenting here like I asked Tom. I wrotethe webmaster and
Alessandro Baraldi yesterday morning like you said. The webmaster didn't
reply yet but Alessandro did. Asking him privatly didn't do any good. He
wrote me it's not my problem and he refuses to let me ask him to do anything
moer about it. His web page is still up. He didn't take it down even though
he knows the code beelongs to Camaro and Camaro didn't give him permission to
put it up on his website. I wrote Camaro and he usually writes me back real
quick but if he didn't write me back I KNOW he didn't write Alessandro back
either and give hime permision to copy his code on his website. Besides the
articals and code are still on the qbilt.com pages wich I'm glad about. I
don't want to see him take down qbilt.com's pages.

Its hard to beleive but did you really give Alessandro permisiion like he
wrote? I hope you charged him alot? Camaro said I get part of any recovry for
copyright infringment as a finders fee if i find it first. I think I'm the
frist one to find Alessandro's copied web page. I followed the steps on the
lisst on how to tell it was Camaro's code and I even found the oriiginal
publish date for proof on the wayback machine like it says.

This is the message Alessandro wrote me,

Regards

Gary L.

(start of mesage)

nome = Gary L.
email =
Oggetto = Copied Camaro's code on your web page
messaggio = Please take down your web page http://www.alessandrobaraldi.it/DettaglioFaq.asp?IdFAQ=205. Your page has code Camaro wrote 2 years ago. It belongs to Camaro or qbilt.com http://www.access.qbuilt.com/html/vba2.html. They warned me theyll take down there web pages if they find people copying and publishing their code again without permission. You may not care if the rest of us don't have qbilt.com for free articals and code but people who speak english want to read english web sites not italian. We'd rathar have qbilt.com because they write good articals and code and its all in english. Thank you.

[Replay]
Mr Gary, i just contact Gunny's(as a Camaro), as you can read on NG.
Tom Wickerath(wich is mentioned as contributor by WebMaster) give me the
permission not only for the code, but also to Link all WebSite in my
Favorites one, with a private mail, but i also write directly to Camaro,
don't warry.

Your Reaction was vary bad and rally not appropriate, but i will replay to
you because my EDUCATION it's ever at maximum level.

I don't need to demostrate you anything, my WebSite is not a commercial one,
and is linked by more then one MVP web site in
Italy and in Germany.

Don't warry about this it's not your problem, if Camaro will ask to me to
take down the Page i immediatly will do it, you can't ask anything.

You need to learn much more then Access VBA, EDUCATION is first thing, you
are not a MAN, your reaction is like a BABY.

@Alex

 

[GL]

GL - Copied from your copyright post

Why Not ? What is wrong with Italian - or any other other language for that
reason.

If you don't know what's wrong SPEAK ONLY ITALIAN and WRITE ONLY ITALIAN for
the next week while your not in Italy and come back here and tell us if
people had problems understanding you. It doesn't matter how many languages
you speak if the person listning to you or reading what you write doesn't
understnad the language your using. If you write all your mesages in this
forum only in italian from now on few people can read your messages but you
already know that and that's why you write english here and not italian in
the italian forum.

Remember that 86.5% of people do not speak English (this fact was
stolen from Wikipedia.com)

If you stole it put it back because now I can't find that artical. (joking)
This artical says the dominent internalional language of the internet is
english and we're talking about the language for web pages on the internet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language. It says half a billion to 1.8
billon people speak english. English ranks 2nd in total number ofspeakers.
This one says only 70 million speak italian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_language. Italian ranks 19 or 20. Even
thogh most people don't speak english even more people don't speak italian so
if your going to write web pages you reach more people if you can write it in
english then italian.

Oh and feel free to copy any of my code and put it on any site - there
really are more important things in life to worry about.

When you write good articals and code on your website Wayne pleas let us
know the address of those pages so we can book mark them. If you don't write
it in english you better pick chinese, hindi or spanish if you want to reach
the most people. Or did you alredy write good articals and code somewhere and
I missed it? I try to follow all the links i find in this forum so I can
learn more about Access and Excell.

Regards

Gary L.

 

[Tom Wickerath]

Hi Gary,

I wrote the webmaster and Alessandro Baraldi yesterday morning like you said.

That was a good step, but you should realize that it should have been your
first course of action, *before* calling Alex a thief in public. I suspect
you might have had a bit more success if you had not alienated him the way
you did with your initial post.

He didn't take it down....

Correct. However, I see that he is no longer claiming to be the author on
this page:
http://www.alessandrobaraldi.it/DettaglioFaq.asp?IdFAQ=205

It is currently showing the following:

Autore: ????

I suggested that he indicate QBuilt.com as the author, not the four question
marks. It looks like Alex has modified it somewhat from the version I saw two
days ago (I did not save a copy of that version).

Alex: You've got a typo in Call OpenAdoMdw -- ("Passord") is misspelled.

....but if he didn't write me back I KNOW he didn't write Alessandro back....

What makes you so sure of that?

....and code are still on the qbilt.com pages....

It is spelled QBuilt, not qbilt.

Its hard to beleive but did you really give Alessandro permisiion like he
wrote?

Yes, I gave him permission to translate into Italian any of the articles on
QBuilt's web site that I have authored, as long as he maintains the copyright
notice.

I encouraged Alessandro to keep his pages up for the benefit of others. He
should, of course, give proper credit where credit is due. Alex: That means
indicating the author as QBuilt, if that is where you got a particular
article. The fact that you can add value by translating the article into
Italian, does not mean that you should fail to acknowledge the original
source, and maintain any copyright notice.


Tom Wickerath
Microsoft Access MVP

http://www.access.qbuilt.com/html/expert_contributors.html
http://www.access.qbuilt.com/html/search.html
__________________________________________

It would only be appropriate if you had first contacted Alex by
private e-mail message, expressing your concerns, if he had either ignored
your message (after a sufficient time for reply) or replied in a manner that
basically told you where to go.

Thank you for comenting here like I asked Tom. I wrotethe webmaster and
Alessandro Baraldi yesterday morning like you said. The webmaster didn't
reply yet but Alessandro did. Asking him privatly didn't do any good. He
wrote me it's not my problem and he refuses to let me ask him to do anything
moer about it. His web page is still up. He didn't take it down even though
he knows the code beelongs to Camaro and Camaro didn't give him permission to
put it up on his website. I wrote Camaro and he usually writes me back real
quick but if he didn't write me back I KNOW he didn't write Alessandro back
either and give hime permision to copy his code on his website. Besides the
articals and code are still on the qbilt.com pages wich I'm glad about. I
don't want to see him take down qbilt.com's pages.

Its hard to beleive but did you really give Alessandro permisiion like he
wrote? I hope you charged him alot? Camaro said I get part of any recovry for
copyright infringment as a finders fee if i find it first. I think I'm the
frist one to find Alessandro's copied web page. I followed the steps on the
lisst on how to tell it was Camaro's code and I even found the oriiginal
publish date for proof on the wayback machine like it says.

This is the message Alessandro wrote me,

Regards

Gary L.

(start of mesage)

nome = Gary L.
email =
Oggetto = Copied Camaro's code on your web page
messaggio = Please take down your web page http://www.alessandrobaraldi.it/DettaglioFaq.asp?IdFAQ=205. Your page has code Camaro wrote 2 years ago. It belongs to Camaro or qbilt.com http://www.access.qbuilt.com/html/vba2.html. They warned me theyll take down there web pages if they find people copying and publishing their code again without permission. You may not care if the rest of us don't have qbilt.com for free articals and code but people who speak english want to read english web sites not italian. We'd rathar have qbilt.com because they write good articals and code and its all in english. Thank you.

[Replay]
Mr Gary, i just contact Gunny's(as a Camaro), as you can read on NG.
Tom Wickerath(wich is mentioned as contributor by WebMaster) give me the
permission not only for the code, but also to Link all WebSite in my
Favorites one, with a private mail, but i also write directly to Camaro,
don't warry.

Your Reaction was vary bad and rally not appropriate, but i will replay to
you because my EDUCATION it's ever at maximum level.

I don't need to demostrate you anything, my WebSite is not a commercial one,
and is linked by more then one MVP web site in
Italy and in Germany.

Don't warry about this it's not your problem, if Camaro will ask to me to
take down the Page i immediatly will do it, you can't ask anything.

You need to learn much more then Access VBA, EDUCATION is first thing, you
are not a MAN, your reaction is like a BABY.

@Alex

Gary,

Your reaction to Alessandro is not an appropriate display in a public forum
such as this. It would only be appropriate if you had first contacted Alex by
private e-mail message, expressing your concerns, if he had either ignored
your message (after a sufficient time for reply) or replied in a manner that
basically told you where to go.

The web pages in question that you sited by Camaro (aka Gunny) are Gunny's
property, not mine. However, I believe that I can speak on Gunny's behalf,
given that I have a long standing relationship with this person.

I think you own Alex a public apology!


Tom Wickerath
Microsoft Access MVP

http://www.access.qbuilt.com/html/expert_contributors.html
http://www.access.qbuilt.com/html/search.html
__________________________________________

 

[John Vinson]

Correct. However, I see that he is no longer claiming to be the author on
this page:
http://www.alessandrobaraldi.it/DettaglioFaq.asp?IdFAQ=205

It is currently showing the following:

Autore: ????

and now it's showing:

Questo codice è pubblicato in http://www.access.qbuilt.com/

L'accesso al Database MDB protetto da MDW è inserito anche sul Libro:
"Visual Basic 6 Accesso ai Database" di Jeffry McManus
Edizione 1999
ISBN 88-7131-807-2

I wonder if this isn't a tempest in a teapot. Lots of code samples
like this get passed from hand to hand, and the original attributions
can get worn off over time. I've been guilty of reposting other
people's good code, and I'm sure many of us have.

Allessandro has now (commendably) credited the code; maybe it's time
to give it a rest?

John W. Vinson[MVP]

 

[Tom Wickerath]

and now it's showing:

Questo codice è pubblicato in http://www.access.qbuilt.com/

Ah, I had not noticed that before you pointed it out. I was looking at the
upper section, where it indicates "Autore", which is what Gary originally
pointed out.

maybe it's time to give it a rest?

John,
I hope your comment above was directed at Gary, and not me. If it was
directed at me, don't you think I have a right to answer him back, when he
questions me publically?


Tom Wickerath
Microsoft Access MVP

http://www.access.qbuilt.com/html/expert_contributors.html
http://www.access.qbuilt.com/html/search.html
__________________________________________

 

[John Vinson]

I hope your comment above was directed at Gary, and not me.

Yes, it certainly was, Tom. Sorry - sleepiness and posting don't mix!

John W. Vinson[MVP]

 

[GL]

He didn't take it down....

Correct.

There can be only one otherwise its not unique.

What makes you so sure of that?

His web page is still up and he always writes me back real quick. He always
helps me wth Access. Maybe he's on vacaton but I don't think so because he
can't travel.

Yes, I gave him permission to translate into Italian any of the articles on
QBuilt's web site that I have authored, as long as he maintains the copyright
notice.

No no bad idea. If you get in bed with him he'll steal the covers and leave
you in teh cold.

Regards

Gary L.

 

[Tom Wickerath]

Gary,

You're starting to bother me now. I gave Alex permission to translate any of
my articles. That should be good enough for you!

I still think you owe Alex a public apology.


Tom Wickerath
Microsoft Access MVP

http://www.access.qbuilt.com/html/expert_contributors.html
http://www.access.qbuilt.com/html/search.html
__________________________________________

 

[GL]

I' don't mean to bother you. I'll apologize to Alessansdro when he apologzes
to Camaro for taking his code without permision and he takes down his web
page. Alessansdro says its thte last thing on his mind meaning he doesnt
care. He takes whatever he wants because he wants it and Im the only one who
tells him that's VERY VERY WRONG so people get mad at me not him.

Regards

Gary L.

 

[Tom Wickerath]

Gary,

You just really don't get it, do you?

Alex *IS* giving proper attribute to QBuilt.com for the article. He is also
providing value to the Access community by providing translatation into
Italian. You've already sent your private message to Gunny. If Gunny has a
problem with this, then let Gunny deal with it. You do not need to play the
role of Internet policeman any longer.

I'll apologize to Alessansdro when...

You should apologize NOW, unconditionally. I don't want him to take down the
web page. In the absense of any comments from Gunny to the contrary, I
believe I AM qualified to represent QBuilt.com in this case. You're simply
being thick-headed, my friend.


Tom Wickerath
Microsoft Access MVP

http://www.access.qbuilt.com/html/expert_contributors.html
http://www.access.qbuilt.com/html/search.html
__________________________________________

 

[Alessandro Baraldi]

Tom Wickerath ha scritto:

[CUT]

I encouraged Alessandro to keep his pages up for the benefit of others. He
should, of course, give proper credit where credit is due. Alex: That means
indicating the author as QBuilt, if that is where you got a particular
article. The fact that you can add value by translating the article into
Italian, does not mean that you should fail to acknowledge the original
source, and maintain any copyright notice.


Tom Wickerath
Microsoft Access MVP

http://www.access.qbuilt.com/html/expert_contributors.html
http://www.access.qbuilt.com/html/search.html

Hi Tom sorry for delay i'm not at home.
I agree about all you say.

When i sturt VB/VBA in IT only 1 WebSite was present, with some
demo.... now much more info are present, it'sure that i use
part of code coming from other webSite, but if you look at this i
usualy insert the autor reference.
My web it's only born to expose information not for a commercial.

The wrong Author, as i say, was my mistake, on my WebSite is Automatic
my name when i put a news, so i sure forgot to delete...
This is not a good reason to Have NOT Edication, but this is an other
question like the publication of our private Mail...made by gary
without permission.

With all respecto to Gunny, this piece of code is a basic one to
connect to a MDB with ADO, 10 lines of code.....
I, like sure many of you, have bought tens of original books(English
version)... so i insert in my update also a Book reference wich expose
the same Lines about Connection.... and i think this is normal... there
are not other way to open a Connection ADO in a MDB... so you can find
everywhere this code....

I do not have pleasure to continue the conversation about Gary, because
i'm sure the really problem is away..... i refus to believe that it can
be this.

Have a good week.

@Alex