Opening and saving Tif files

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Phil

I am creating a project that will have many photos in it. It will be
printed by a friend who has a massive commercial color printer. I tried to
scan the photos first at 1200 dpi as a tif file. It could not be saved, the
computer told me because the file was too large, yet I have over 100 GB empty
on my hard drive and 2MG of Ram. I changed the resolution to 400 dpi and was
able to save them as JPEG with some compression. Now I am creating the
poster in 2007 Publisher, saving it as a TIF file, but I notice that
Publisher does not seem to be able to open the poster as a TIF file, so I
have to keep the file opened until I finish it, which could be a while, and
if my computer crashes I never be able to open the project in Publisher
again. I am also sarting to see error messages that the file is too large.
My friend tells me the file must be TIF, JPG or PSD. I am trying to be the
maximum quality possible. So, how can I can I open a tif project, why won't
Publisher accept TIF files ( the photos going into the poster) larger than
300 dpi, and how can I deal with the messages telling me the file is too big
to save? It is way less than 300 MB. I am running Vista Home Premium with a
dual core processor.

Thanks for your help.
 
J

John Inzer

Phil said:
I am creating a project that will have many photos in it. It will be
printed by a friend who has a massive commercial color printer. I
tried to scan the photos first at 1200 dpi as a tif file. It could
not be saved, the computer told me because the file was too large,
yet I have over 100 GB empty on my hard drive and 2MG of Ram. I
changed the resolution to 400 dpi and was able to save them as JPEG
with some compression. Now I am creating the poster in 2007
Publisher, saving it as a TIF file, but I notice that Publisher does
not seem to be able to open the poster as a TIF file, so I have to
keep the file opened until I finish it, which could be a while, and
if my computer crashes I never be able to open the project in
Publisher again. I am also sarting to see error messages that the
file is too large. My friend tells me the file must be TIF, JPG or
PSD. I am trying to be the maximum quality possible. So, how can I
can I open a tif project, why won't Publisher accept TIF files ( the
photos going into the poster) larger than 300 dpi, and how can I deal
with the messages telling me the file is too big to save? It is way
less than 300 MB. I am running Vista Home Premium with a dual core
processor.

Thanks for your help.
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If your originals are .jpg...converting to
..tif will not improve the quality.

It's doubtful that scanning color prints at
more than 300 dpi would be worthwhile.
Instead of .tif, I would try saving the scans
and the finished project in the .png format.

Also it may be worth a try to create a .pdf
file and try printing it.

And it may be worthwhile to do some
maintenance on your system:

(260897) How to Delete the Contents of the
Temporary Internet Files Folder
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=260897

Running Disk Cleanup, Error Checking and
Defrag on a regular schedule is a good idea.

(310312) Description of the Disk Cleanup
Tool in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=310312

(315265) How to Perform Disk Error Checking
in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=315265
(check the two boxes..."Automatically fix file
system errors" and "Scan for and attempt
recovery of bad sectors") the utility will run
the next time you restart your computer.
(run error checking repeatedly until it finds
no errors)

(314848) How to Defragment Your Disk
Drive Volumes in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=314848

--

John Inzer
MS Picture It! -
Digital Image MVP

Digital Image
Highlights and FAQs
http://tinyurl.com/aczzp

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk
 
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Phil

Thank you for your very quick response. The original photos are in TIF
format and I am saving the project as a tif file. I was told by my friend
that he can only use TIF or JPG files. The project is on a 36x36 poster,
which my printer cannot handle.

Publisher just crashed-I am now trying to find the file on the C drive (
with no luck so far) but I also saved it on a CD-RW.

As for system maintenance, I do everything you suggested once a week.
 
M

Mary Sauer

Phil, .tif images tend to be large, there is no reason for you to have
resolutions at 1200 dpi.
Take your images into an editing program and resample them. Paint.NET is free.
http://www.getpaint.net/

Anytime you try to save a 36 x 36 image as a .tif you are asking for trouble.
Your best solution is to convert the publication into a PDF or download the
printer driver your friend is using and set the page up using the driver.
 
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Phil

Thanks for your help. But why do I keep getting messages saying the file is
too large when I have plenty of room?
 
M

Mary Sauer

It is virtual memory, not physical memory that is the problem. Increase your
virtual memory.
 
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Phil

I increased my Virtual memory to 750 MB but I still had problems saving it.
I changed all the photos to 300dpi and saved it as a PDF file, so everything
worked out eventually. Also, thank you for recommending Getpaint. Very nice
program.

Thank you for all your help

Phil
 
J

John G

Something nobody seemed to mention about your original problem.

Once you have saved your job as a TIFF file then the only thing you
canus to change it is a Photo editing program because it is no longer a
PUB file but a Picture file and all the elements of your project are
just dots in the big picture.
If you need a Tiff to send to the printer then you have to save it as a
PUB file until you are ready to send it then also save it as a Tiff. If
you need to change it then you change the last PUB file and save the
result as a Tiff.

Glad PDF worked for you. It is usually the easy way to give anything to
others.

John G.
 

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