producing an outline

L

Larry Mason

In Word under 'Bullets and Numbering', you have a tab called 'Outline
Numbered" that will create an outline with several levels, each indented
nicely. However, I do not see the same tab in Publisher 2003. So, how does
one create an outline in Publisher? I've searched the help, knowledge
bases, queried the search engines, ... but can't find the necessary magic.
Thanks,
Larry
 
J

JoAnn Paules

The unfortunate anwer is "with extreme difficulty". It's easier to create it
in Word and copy it over into Word.
 
L

Larry Mason

The unfortunate anwer is "with extreme difficulty". It's easier to create
it
in Word and copy it over into Word.
Not quite what I wanted to hear but was expecting :(

My next thought is to switch from Publisher to Word. However, Publisher
does not save to any suitable format that contains both the text and images
which I can then load into Word. Neither can I find any conversion program
to handle .pub to .doc [ select all, copy/paste is not a valid option ]
Thoughts?
Larry
 
J

JoAnn Paules

Take the outline from Word to Publisher. Do the rest of the work in
Publisher.

--
JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Larry Mason said:
The unfortunate anwer is "with extreme difficulty". It's easier to create it
in Word and copy it over into Word.
Not quite what I wanted to hear but was expecting :(

My next thought is to switch from Publisher to Word. However, Publisher
does not save to any suitable format that contains both the text and
images
which I can then load into Word. Neither can I find any conversion
program
to handle .pub to .doc [ select all, copy/paste is not a valid option ]
Thoughts?
Larry
 
L

Larry Mason

Take the outline from Word to Publisher. Do the rest of the work in
Publisher.
But the contents in the "outline" (not really an outline just want to use
the outline numbering and indentation functionality) changes over time.
Maintaining some content in Word and the rest in Publisher is not really
workable. I need to pick one or the other. I'm trying to move my 100s of
pages to Word so that I can see whether it will be a better fit for the work
I'm trying to do. Certainly Microsoft knows how to process files in the
other pieces of the Office suite, right?
Larry
 
J

JoAnn Paules

Once it's in Publisher, you can make some changes. I do it every four months
with a board meeting agenda. If the changes are substancial, I'd still
recommend keeping the outline in Word. I like Word but for page layout, I
just don't think you can beat Publisher.
 
L

Larry Mason

You can use the tab settings to produce what you are trying to do, after
doing your
list highlight it and move the tabs to where you want them. I have attached a small
.gif to illustrate...
Thanks for the suggestion. However, how would word wrapping work with this
tab setting approach? Each item in the hierarchy is really multiple lines
and even paragraphs. [ in fact attempts at using tabs is what created the
problem which became evident when some content was changed and the
perviously nicely aligned content became scattered across the pages]

Again it really isn't a simple table of contents with one-liners. I need
the software to control layout - I don't want to spend hours fixing
alignment and numbering every time content is added or changed. This
feature is important to the productivity of the project. More time is spent
with controlling/coaching layout than producing content. Again I'd love to
move the document to Word in order to perform a "shoot-out" to see which
platform is better suited to the problem but even what should be a simple
export/import has become a major obstacle.

Larry
 
M

Mary Sauer

As JoAnn explained, Word is the way to go. It is a powerful word processor and can do
what you want. Publisher is a page layout application, it does some things quite
well, better than Word in some respects, but it well never do what Word can do.

--
Mary Sauer MS MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://www.msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com
Larry Mason said:
You can use the tab settings to produce what you are trying to do, after doing your
list highlight it and move the tabs to where you want them. I have attached a small
.gif to illustrate...
Thanks for the suggestion. However, how would word wrapping work with this
tab setting approach? Each item in the hierarchy is really multiple lines
and even paragraphs. [ in fact attempts at using tabs is what created the
problem which became evident when some content was changed and the
perviously nicely aligned content became scattered across the pages]

Again it really isn't a simple table of contents with one-liners. I need
the software to control layout - I don't want to spend hours fixing
alignment and numbering every time content is added or changed. This
feature is important to the productivity of the project. More time is spent
with controlling/coaching layout than producing content. Again I'd love to
move the document to Word in order to perform a "shoot-out" to see which
platform is better suited to the problem but even what should be a simple
export/import has become a major obstacle.

Larry
 
B

Brian Kvalheim - [MSFT MVP]

Hi Larry Mason (larry_mason@i2.com),
in the newsgroups
you posted:

|| In Word under 'Bullets and Numbering', you have a tab called 'Outline
|| Numbered" that will create an outline with several levels, each
|| indented nicely. However, I do not see the same tab in Publisher
|| 2003. So, how does one create an outline in Publisher? I've
|| searched the help, knowledge bases, queried the search engines, ...
|| but can't find the necessary magic. Thanks,
|| Larry

Draw your text box in Publisher, then go to Edit > Edit Story in Word >
Create Outline. Outline will be in Publisher.
--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.publishermvps.com
~pay it forward~

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.
 

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