Entourage contacts not syncing with Address Book and MobileMe

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pd

Version: 2008
Operating System: Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)
Email Client: imap

I had Entourage syncing pretty well with iCal, Address Book, MobileMe and my iPhone, until I recently noticed I no longer had contact info for my brother on my iPhone - it somehow got wiped out. I updated his info in Entourage, but it refuses to sync with iCal and, hence, MobileMe. Even when I try to sync the iPhone using a cable and iTunes, the updated address info does not transfer to the iPhone. Later I noticed the same thing happened to my wife's contact info. I know there have been sync issues between Entourage and iCal, but don't understand why it was working fine one day and now it appears Apple or Microsoft - or both - just hates my family. Any ideas on how to remedy this situation? (OK, it's not just my family; I created a test address in Entourage and had the same issue; it won't replicate elsewhere.)
 
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Corentin Cras-Méneur

I had Entourage syncing pretty well with iCal, Address Book, MobileMe
and my iPhone, until I recently noticed I no longer had contact info for
my brother on my iPhone - it somehow got wiped out. I updated his info
in Entourage, but it refuses to sync with iCal and, hence, MobileMe.

Try turning SyncServices off then back on in the Entourage preferences.

Corentin
 
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pd

Try turning SyncServices off then back on in the Entourage preferences.

Corentin
OK, I tried that - and it deleted all contacts from the Address Book and MobileMe. When I turned Sync Services back on, I selected the option to use all the Entourage data, as that is the most accurate. If I selected the option to keep both, I was afraid I'd get a bunch of duplicates. Was this the wrong move? Something else? Thanks.
 
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Corentin Cras-Méneur

OK, I tried that - and it deleted all contacts from the Address Book
and MobileMe. When I turned Sync Services back on, I selected the option
to use all the Entourage data, as that is the most accurate. If I
selected the option to keep both, I was afraid I'd get a bunch of
duplicates. Was this the wrong move? Something else? Thanks.

You did what you were supposed to.
Did it repopulate the address book and iCal??

Corentin
 
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pd

You did what you were supposed to.
Did it repopulate the address book and iCal??

Corentin

iCal is fine but all the data in the Address Book is now gone - no contacts in there at all.
 
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Corentin Cras-Méneur

iCal is fine but all the data in the Address Book is now gone - no
contacts in there at all.

You can try turning Sync Services off only for contacts and turning it
back on.
SyncServices are a MAJOR pain. Considering how many other apps have
similar issues, I would be tempted to blame it on Apple for this time,


Corentin
 
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userba

Not sure if this helps you, but I was having the same kind of trouble ALL day but backwards (Address Book was full, Entourage wouldn't populate) even after I had turned the Contact SyncService off and back on multiple times.

This seemed to have helped:
<http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1627>

I'd make sure you have a backup of your contacts before any of this though.
 
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Diane Ross

Thanks to all for the tips. I tried resetting the Sync Services folder as well
as turning Sync Services off and on again only for contacts, but still no
luck. Any other suggestions would be most welcome. Thanks.

Testing in a new User will quickly tell you if the problem is system wide or
if it¹s your User¹s folder that contains the problem.

You'll need files for testing.

1) Export Entourage's Address Book using File > Export as Entourage archive
(.rge) file just your contacts.

2) Drag the .rge file to the Shared folder.

Your Hard Drive/Users/Shared

Go to System Preferences --> Create a New User in Accounts. Switch to the
New User by logging out/in or use Fast User Switching.

Open Entourage in a new blank Identity. Set Sync Services in Entourage
Preferences.

Drag the .rge file from Shared to the desktop.

In Entourage select File > Import > Entourage info from an archive...
Navigate to the .rge file and import.

Does Entourage sync to the Address Book in the new User. You might need to
give it a little time, but it should do it fairly quickly.

If it fails, the problems is at the system level with the OS or Office
files.

If it works, then go back to you main User and drag your Main Identity to
Shared. Switch to the new Identity and drag your Main Identity from Shared
and test it. If it fails, then you know the problem is in your database, but
if it works, then your User's account has the problem.

Let us know what the results show.
 
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pd

OK, I got the issue sorted out and fixed. I sent a note to Microsoft support yesterday and got the following reply today. In a nutshell, the Entourage database was corrupted and had to be rebuilt.

Thanks to everyone who replied - it is much appreciated. (Diane - I got MS's response before yours so never tried it. Although I should've mentioned that I couldn't export to create a backup - the process wouldn't complete. In retrospect, I guess that was a pretty good hint there was a problem with the database.)

Here's the fix for those who are interested:

I think there is corruption in the Entourage address book and this is probably causing this issue.

First of all back up the database, here are the steps:
1. Close all Microsoft Programs
2. Double click on the "Hard Disk"
3. Double click on "Users"
4. Double click on the "Home User"
5. Double click on "Documents"
6. Double click on "Microsoft User Data"
7. Double click on "Office 2008 identities"
8. Hold down the "Control" key on the keyboard and click on "Main Identity" (or your identity name) with your mouse
9. Select "copy Main Identity" (or your identity name)
10. Close out of these windows
11. Hold down the "control" key on the keyboard and click on "desktop" and select "paste item"

You also wanted to know where the data is for Address Book, all Entourage data including Entourages Address Book is in the file called Database in Main Identity. When you are referring to the Address Book on the Mac then you have to contact Apple, they know where the data is for the Apple Address Book and they should be able to recover your data for the Address Book from Time Machine.

Time Machine could possibly corrupt the Entourage data, here are some links to websites that discuss this issue:
<http://blog.entourage.mvps.org/2008/01/alternative_method_to_use_entourage_and_time_machine.html>
<http://www.entourage.mvps.org/faq_topic/leopard.html>



We are going to reset the Microsoft Sync Services first, do a rebuild and then sync iCal with Entourage; here are the steps:
1. Click on the Hard Disk
2. Click on "Users"
3. Click on the folder with your user name
4. Click on "Library"
5. Click on "Preferences"
6. Drag "com.microsoft.entourage.syncservices.plist" (when it is there) and "com.microsoft.entourage.syncservices12.plist" to the trash
7. Drag "OfficeSync Prefs" to the trash when it is there
8. Click on the "Microsoft" folder in preferences
9. Click on the "Office 2008" folder
10. Drag "OfficeSync Prefs" to the trash
11. Restart the Mac

Now rebuild the Entourage Database:
1. Ensure the Microsoft Entourage is still closed
2. Hold down the "option/alt" key on the keyboard and click on the Entourage icon in the dock
* *this will bring up a "Database Utility" window 3. Ensure it is the "Main identity" (or if you renamed your identity pick the name that you have chosen) selected and put the dot in rebuild database and click continue
4. It will go through a 5 step process and when it is done you click "done" and "quit"
5. Launch Entourage normally

Turn Sync Services back on, trashing of the preferences turned them off:
1. Open Entourage and go to Entourage in the menu and choose Preferences
2. Click on Sync Services on the left and turn on the sync between Entourage and iCal when you click OK it should prompt you if you want to combine or overwrite files, you choose combine information

You can find more information about Sync Services on the following pages:
<http://www.entourage.mvps.org/faq_topic/sync_services_basics.html>
<http://blog.entourage.mvps.org/2007/07/why_does_the_syncing_play_goss.html>

It could be possible that the Apple Sync Services for Address Book and iCal needs to be reset, Apple would need to help you with this; this page has more information about resetting Sync Services:
<http://www.entourage.mvps.org/troubleshoot/syncservices.html#ss2>
When you need assistance, then you need to contact Apple, they need to w
 
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Diane Ross

Thanks to everyone who replied - it is much appreciated. (Diane - I got MS's
response before yours so never tried it. Although I should've mentioned that I
couldn't export to create a backup - the process wouldn't complete. In
retrospect, I guess that was a pretty good hint there was a problem with the
database.)

Was this the only sign of problems? It's strange that sync would have been
the only issue.

Exporting as Entourage archive (.rge) file is a good way to verify your
database. I prefer it over the verify in the database utility. No only if it
exports without an error confirm you have a good database, but it gives you
a copy of your data in the process.

Thanks for sharing the feedback from support. They really do take you
through the trenches to simply copy the Identity. :)
 
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Kerry

Very detailed instructions. I think someone mentioned sync services is
a pain and this is an Apple issue and that's true. Sync services with
Entourage but other third party apps is incredibly flaky. You might
want to explore this as its all over the forums including here -
Mactopia, Objective-Decisions etc.

What I'd be interested in is how you've re-enabled sync services - one
module, all modules in Entourage prefs and how long you till this
messes up and it will. The results are unpredicable, variable but
result in some common themes like dups but also sudden data loss such
as complete record deletions or info in a record. I would keep lots of
backups but you might not notice something happen immediately and if
you have to go too far back in you backups for recovery that's not
practical as you'll loose all your current stuff from the date you
have to go back to. Yet, make sure you have backups as sync errors can
also become immediately apparent. The other thing that is unpredicable
is when sync will fail. You never know but it will.

I'd be interested in how this goes for you.
 
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pd

I re-enabled all modules of sync services, I believe - sync contacts with Address Book & MobileMe; events and tasks; and notes. I also selected the "Merge data" option, only because when I previously chose to delete data from Address Book, iCal, MobileMe, etc. and replace with Entourage data it didn't work (plus it's what MS support said to do). That did result in a few duplicated calendar events - but I'm getting quite use to that. And yes, I'm backing up with TimeMachine many times/day, incl. the Entourage database, as suggested - because I'm sure this won't be the last time.

Thanks.
 
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Kerry

I re-enabled all modules of sync services, I believe - sync contacts withAddress Book & MobileMe; events and tasks; and notes. I also selected the "Merge data" option, only because when I previously chose to delete data from Address Book, iCal, MobileMe, etc. and replace with Entourage data it didn't work (plus it's what MS support said to do). That did result in a few duplicated calendar events - but I'm getting quite use to that. And yes, I'm backing up with TimeMachine many times/day, incl. the Entourage database,as suggested - because I'm sure this won't be the last time.

Thanks.

Yes, interesting. The over write option I believe only with CAlendar
stopped working with Snow Leopard. So what I do here to get a clean
Entourage calendar in iCal is delete the iCal cal Entourage and then
use combine. Its completely in sync with Entourage with no dups.

The one other thing I did as I noticed some weird things happening
with SL is start with a fresh/new identity and just imported my
contacts from an rge backup as they are categorized. Then I just
sync'd all modules so everything is in perfect align. I've normally
worked with just one module enabled to prevent dups but I've got Notes
and Calendar enabled at the same time and so far so good. If I enable
Contacts and leave them enabled for some reason tasks dup in 10.6. I
rarely change contacts and when I do I have found that I can just
switch it on and let it sync then switch it off and nothing dups. Now,
I've only done this twice and have only worked with Notes and Calendar
sync on at the same time for a little over a week so I'm not sure if
I'll suddenly start seeing dups but it'd be nice if I don't as I do
add all the time to Notes, tasks and Events.
 

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