footnotes have too much blank space

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donna_d

Version: 2004
Operating System: Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger)
Processor: Power PC

I am working on my thesis and have formatted my document APA style. Now I am doing some edits. Unfortunately the space for the footnotes has expanded at the bottom of the page, occupying 1/3 of the page for a 3 line footnote. The footnote is positioned properly at the bottom of this space but there is several inches of blank space between it and the 1/2 line separating the footnote from text. I cant seem to eliminate it even though i went into modify styles for footnotes.Is there a solution??
 
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donna_d

Thanks for responding so quickly.
The style specification for footnote reads as follows:
Normal + Font: 11pt, Font color: Dark Blue, Line spacing :1.5 lines, Space After: 6 pt, No widow/orphan control, Allow hanging punctuation, Font Alignment: Auto, Adjust space between Latin and Asian text, Adjust space between Asian text

The space is all at the top of the footnote - when I put in two footnotes on the same page, they line up one over the other and the same size space exists above the footnotes - I am attaching a screen shot of the page with one footnote.

I also tried to use endnotes as an option and the same thing happened - only with a larger space. I did look at it on a PC with reveal codes (or something like that) and saw a series of returns which I could not remove.

The first time I did insert the footnotes it worked properly, it was only after some editing that it changed.

thank you
Donna
( I responded by email - but thought i should post it here in case someone else has a similar problem)
 
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Clive Huggan

Hello Donna,

See below.

Thanks for responding so quickly.
The style specification for footnote reads as follows:
Normal + Font: 11pt, Font color: Dark Blue, Line spacing :1.5 lines, Space
After: 6 pt, No widow/orphan control, Allow hanging punctuation, Font
Alignment: Auto, Adjust space between Latin and Asian text, Adjust space
between Asian text
Fine.

The space is all at the top of the footnote - when I put in two footnotes on
the same page, they line up one over the other and the same size space exists
above the footnotes - I am attaching a screen shot of the page with one
footnote.

The regulars here access the newsgroup with newsreading software rather than
using Microsoft's web page, so your screen shot did not come through. But no
probs -- I can imagine it now.
I also tried to use endnotes as an option and the same thing happened - only
with a larger space. I did look at it on a PC with reveal codes (or something
like that) and saw a series of returns which I could not remove.

You can reveal the invisibles in Word on the Mac by keying Command-8 or
clicking the "backwards P" (pilcrow) if you see it on one of the toolbars.
But that should not be necessary. I think your problem is that the wrong
style has become associated with your footnote separator, i.e. the
horizontal line. So try this:

1. In Normal view, in the body text, click on a footnote reference number to
reveal the footnotes area at the bottom of the window.

2. Pop down "All footnotes" and let go at "Footnote separator".

3. If you have a styles pop-down in your toolbar at the top of the page,
change it to "Normal" (or do the same via the Format ==> Style menu).

That should change the spacing to (presumably, if that's what your Normal
style has) 12 points before.
The first time I did insert the footnotes it worked properly, it was only
after some editing that it changed.

Which makes me think the above will work. ;-)
thank you
Donna
( I responded by email - but thought i should post it here in case someone
else has a similar problem)

My e-mail address is highly obfuscated and in any event leads to a spam trap
(one of life's necessities when your voluntary activities are in close
proximity to Microsoft). And right now my ISP is trashing all e-mail to that
address anyway. :-(

But you've hit the nail on the head: we only communicate via this newsgroup
because of the other people who will have the same problem. :)

Do let us know if the above fixes your problem!

CH
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Audrey5555

Wow, worked for me too. Only difference is that for
Step 3, I didn't have the styles pop-down but instead clicked "reset."
Awesome -- thanks!
 
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Clive Huggan

Yes, I said "wow" when I stumbled across the fix a few years ago! But I'm
surprised three people in such a short time who have reported the problem,
since it hadn't been previously reported in this forum -- at least not for
several years. Maybe it's something that bothers people but not enough to
report it.

In view of that, I've added a brief discussion of this topic in the next
edition of some notes on the way I use Word for the Mac, titled "Bend Word
to Your Will", which are available as a free download from the Word MVPs'
website (http://word.mvps.org/Mac/Bend/BendWordToYourWill.html). (In the
current edition, footnotes are covered on pages 159 and 160.)

[Note: "Bend Word to your will" is designed to be used electronically and
most subjects are self-contained dictionary-style entries. If you decide to
read more widely than the item I've referred to, it's important to read the
front end of the document -- especially pages 3 and 5 -- so you can select
some Word settings that will allow you to use the document effectively.]

Cheers,
Clive Huggan
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david666

Got the same problem, and the same solution worked for me.
A small correction for Windows Word 2007 users: you need to use "Web
Layout" (there's no "Normal view" in this version).
 
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CyberTaz

Hi David;

Got the same problem, and the same solution worked for me.
A small correction for Windows Word 2007 users: you need to use "Web
Layout" (there's no "Normal view" in this version).

No, but there is Draft View which is nothing more than Normal View's new
moniker in Word 2007 :)

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
 

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