OneNote 2007 Beta 2 - Send to Microsoft OneNote Configuration Ques

[OneDave]

I have OneNote 2007 Beta 2 installed on an XP tablet. I had installed ON2003
first, and I never had the PowerToy on it.

I'm trying to configure the ON2007 driver as I have a Send to OneNote 2003
Powertoy driver configured on another computer & don't know how to do it with
2007:

1. I would like each page of a multipage original (snt from PowerPoint 2003)
to occupy its own page/subpage when it is received by ON2007. Right now, I
get a single ON page that has lot of output page images on it.

2. I would like to specify the Section where the driver's output is sent.
Right now it seems to always land in Unfiled Pages.

Lastly, if possible, I would like to automatically have the incoming page
images sized on the resulting OneNote 2007 page. Right now, an 8.5 x 11
original page comes in as about 6 inches wide. I have to manually resize it
to fit my ON page that is 8.5 x 11.

Love OneNote!

Thanks, Dave

 

[Patrick Schmid]

1. I would like each page of a multipage original (snt from PowerPoint
2003)

to occupy its own page/subpage when it is received by ON2007. Right now, I
get a single ON page that has lot of output page images on it.

Not possible.

2. I would like to specify the Section where the driver's output is sent.
Right now it seems to always land in Unfiled Pages.

GO to Tools, Options, Filing Rules. There you can set where the pages go
by default.

Lastly, if possible, I would like to automatically have the incoming page
images sized on the resulting OneNote 2007 page. Right now, an 8.5 x 11
original page comes in as about 6 inches wide. I have to manually resize it
to fit my ON page that is 8.5 x 11.

When you print it, does it occupy a full printed page?

Patrick Schmid

 

[OneDave]

no. The page printed had a reduced version of the original page on it

 

[OneDave]

I'm still having problems with this aspect of ON 2007 Beta 2. SInce
importing files is supposed to be an improved feature of ON2007, I wonder
whether I'm just doing it wrong. I need help with this as I am taking some
fast-paced summer classes that I'm using ON 2007 Beta 2 for.

Here is my typical scenario for this feature: A professor hands out several
8.5 x 11 inch pages of material, which I scan into a PDF as individual 8.5 x
11 inch pages in a single PDF file. Another possibility is that the
professor emails a PDF file to me that contains several 8.5 x 11 inch pages.
My goal is to get these into OneNote as a single ON page with subpages for
each source document page (all 8.5 x 11, of course). How can I do this in ON
2007? Can I even get close?

With ON 2003, I could "print" the pages into ON with the Send to OneNote
driver and they came through as images on a single ON page having many
subpages, with one source page image per page/subpage. I would then have to
open each image on each subpage and re-size it to occupy an 8.5 x 11 ON page.
But then I could set it as background and take notes directly onto it. It
would print very well as an 8.5 x 11 pages.

1. With ON 2007 B2, when I print using Send to Microsoft OneNote driver, or
select Insert Files as Printouts, I get one loooong page that contains all of
my source page images. I have to manually cut each page image from the
loooooong page and paste it onto its own subpage. Printing splits page
images across my paper. Have we lost the automatic 1-page-per-page feature
in ON 2007? Am I setting an option wrong? Is this a bug?

2. When I print a file to ON 2007 Beta 2 using the Send to Microsoft OneNote
printer driver, the pages come through smaller than the 8.5 x 11 originals,
whether they were PDF, powerpoint, etc. I have to manually enlarge each
image to be about a page in size. How can I do this automatically? Is there
a page setup or page size setting in the printer driver? Does the size of
the source page always get scaled down? When I print these small images,
they print out small if I have written on them or in their margins, even if I
did page setup and seleceted letter-sized ON pages.

I would appreciate some guidance on this feature, as I am rapidly screwing
up my class notes using ON 2007. Scrolling down loooong pages slows doen the
tablet and prints poorly.

 

[Patrick Schmid]

Here is my typical scenario for this feature: A professor hands out
several

8.5 x 11 inch pages of material, which I scan into a PDF as individual 8.5 x
11 inch pages in a single PDF file. Another possibility is that the
professor emails a PDF file to me that contains several 8.5 x 11 inch pages.
My goal is to get these into OneNote as a single ON page with subpages for
each source document page (all 8.5 x 11, of course). How can I do this in ON
2007? Can I even get close?

Make sure ON is set to file printouts on the current page (Tools, Filing
Rules). Then in ON create a new page/subpage, go back to Adobe PDF and
print one page. Create a new subpage in ON, print the next page from
Adobe, etc.

1. With ON 2007 B2, when I print using Send to Microsoft OneNote driver, or
select Insert Files as Printouts, I get one loooong page that contains all of
my source page images. I have to manually cut each page image from the
loooooong page and paste it onto its own subpage. Printing splits page
images across my paper. Have we lost the automatic 1-page-per-page feature
in ON 2007? Am I setting an option wrong? Is this a bug?

The automatic 1-page-per-page feature is gone. I highly doubt it'll be
added back before RTM. It's just too late for that.

2. When I print a file to ON 2007 Beta 2 using the Send to Microsoft OneNote
printer driver, the pages come through smaller than the 8.5 x 11 originals,
whether they were PDF, powerpoint, etc. I have to manually enlarge each
image to be about a page in size. How can I do this automatically? Is there
a page setup or page size setting in the printer driver? Does the size of
the source page always get scaled down? When I print these small images,
they print out small if I have written on them or in their margins, even if I
did page setup and seleceted letter-sized ON pages.

Probably a bug. Did you file this already on connect?

Patrick Schmid

 

[OneDave]

Thanks for your reply. I think I'll submit bug reports when I figure out how
to do it!

I wonder why MS would remove a feature that was present in 03?

Dave

 

[Ben M. Schorr - MVP]

Aloha OneDave,

Some features were removed if the usage figures showed that they were unused
and retaining them required more work or resources than they deserved.

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr - MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm

 

[Patrick Schmid]

Thanks for your reply. I think I'll submit bug reports when I figure
out how

to do it!

connect.microsoft.com. Sign in/up and find OneNote 2007 (if you find any
OneNote on there, you are fine. The ON 2003 thing is the same as the one
for 2007). This is limited to OneNote though. You can't use connect for
any other Office 2007 program.

I wonder why MS would remove a feature that was present in 03?

As Ben said, usage data was the guiding factor to decide whether to keep
a feature or not. Extensive user customization in the ribbon apps, the
"insert from picture or camera" feature in ppt, excel, word are two
other examples that went wayside due to lack of usage.

Patrick Schmid
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http://pschmid.net

Dave

 

[Stick]

Having the same problem. Only, last night it was importing documents just
fine...at the correct size. This morning, having not restarted the computer
or anything, it is back to importing a reduced document. This is rather
frustrating.

 

[Stick]

OneDave, I had this problem also, but I seem to have fixed it. Perhaps this
will help you as well. Do this at your own risk.
I had uninstalled Devin's OneNote Image Writer Powertoy long ago, but found
many keys present in the registry. So here is what I did:

1. Backup your registry

2. Perform a search of the registry for the term "Image Writer" and delete
all the keys and/or data values it finds. Take time to do this correctly.
NOTE: There are some data values which are not dedicated soley to the Image
Writer. I recommend you leave those values alone. For example, many keys
contain a list of printers, so that Image Writer powertoy was just a single
data value within that registry key. Go ahead and delete that data value,
but DO NOT delete that key, as your other printers depend on it. Other keys
are soley used by Image Writer, and this can usually be seen by seeing
Devin's name somewhere within that key, or the letters DDE (If I remember
correctly). Be sure to delete those keys, and their root key (if present).
Hopefully I haven't confused the matter. Better yet, I hope you are
experienced registry editor.

3. Repeat step (2), but this time do a search on the term "Imagewriter" (all
one word).

4. Restart the computer.

Let me know if this works for you as well. If so, I think we've found the
culprit, but I have no idea how the leftover registry keys were affecting
things. My guess is that one of the keys had set values for print margins,
and that those were somehow being interpreted by Send to Microsoft OneNote.
Maybe there was some crosstalk between the two.

 

[Stick]

May have spoken too soon (though I restarted my computer and OneNote several
times to test it). Today, I am having intermittant success, which is still
better than yesterday. Now, It works properly for a while, and then starts
behaving incorrectly (small imports). I am in the process of pinpointing
what application or process is making it go astray. At least now, if I
restart my computer it goes back to working properly. Hmmm.

 

[Stick]

OneDave, are you working in Portrait mode on a tablet pc?? I found that
when I switch to landscape mode that this bug goes away. Sure enough, as
soon as I switch back to portrait mode it rears its ugly head. Give it a try
and let me know if it works.

 

[OneDave]

Hmmm, does this mean that future service packs, etc. will include the
feature, or do you think this be a permanent deletion? I'm a student taking
lots of science classes. The class handouts & other materials are either
computer files or scanned in. Being able to deal with (mark up, print)
individual pages from the originals is important. I don't see a good
work-around that will print very well. I've submitted the missing feature as
a bug report. Is there any other action I can take to increase the likelihood
of getting a page- by-page import function?

 

[Patrick Schmid]

It is unlikely that future ON 2007 service packs will introduce new
features as happened with ON 2003. Service Packs are not for new
features but for fixing issues. The situation with ON 2003 was an
exception.
You can encourage people to vote for your bug submission on Connect by
posting the link to it here. I'd start a new thread that gives a summary
of what the issue is, so that people can read everything quickly and
make a decision whether to vote or not.

Patrick Schmid

 

[Ben M. Schorr - MVP]

Aloha OneDave,

Patrick is exactly right - it's extremely unlikely that future service packs
will include any new features.

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr - MVP
Roland Schorr & Tower
http://www.rolandschorr.com
Microsoft OneNote FAQ: http://www.factplace.com/onenotefaq.htm

 

[OneDave]

I guess that leaves room for MS competitors to wade in... It also makes ON
2007 less appealing to certain markets--academics, for instance.

Despite all of ON 2007 Beta's good features, I'm impressed that "pages"
don't seem to be handled very well. Although electronic notes are great and
have many advantages of their own, we still live in a world where we have to
deal in physical "pages." As the present community dialogue has revealed, ON
can't import them as standard pages, it can't have imported pages occupy a
single 8.5 x 11-inch ON page or subpage, and printing from ON does a poor job
reproducing an original or a marked up hard copy "page" for the reader. It
seems to me that ON 2007 should handle pages-in and pages-out with aplomb,
rather than reducing the page-centric capability found in the 2003 version.

 

[jsprague]

OneDave,
I am in complete agreement with you that it is a shame that they removed the
feature allowing us to insert a document and have its pages occupy their own
page/subpage. I am a grad student and am given notes in files that can be
hundreds of pages long. It is VERY time-consuming to print each page
individually and much more difficult to study, review, and find notes when
all of the notes are on one loooong page. I was hoping the feature was
eluding me (hence the reason I came to the discussion boards), and am very
disappointed to learn that the feature is not offered.
I was very excited to learn that ON 2007 has the image text recognition, but
am concerned that the lack of this "page feature" might make the future
purchase of the finished version useless for me if transferring my notes is
such a hassle.
A great deal of the past usage might not have used the feature much, but I
think as colleges move more toward electronic notes, the feature will be
needed/desired. All of my notes are now electronic - it's just a matter of
time before some of the other departments follow suit.
OneDave, what did you do to suggest the need for this? Can I "agree" with
you somewhere?

 

[OneDave]

I entered the suggestion into the Beta user feedback web site, but later
received the message that: 1) ON2007 will no longer have that 2003 feature,
and 2) the feature will be reconsidered for future releases. I don't know if
there is a vote function, but you might want to check on the Microsoft
product feedback site: https://connect.microsoft.com/intro.aspx

I think the importing of one page/subpage per original page is a good
feature and I will miss it. I do hope it comes back. Maybe it is just
students, but I suspect anyone who deals with imported documents would want
the option.

 

[Patrick Schmid]

Both the answers you got were to be expected. ON 2007 is basically
feature-complete at this point in time (even though we don't have a
feature-complete build yet in our hands). Any suggestion you enter right
now is for consideration for a future release.
Let me just stress one important thing: If you have suggestion for
future OneNote releases, you need to submit them on Connect RIGHT NOW.
The meetings planning the future of OneNote are happening around this
time. I suggest you read the most recent post on my blog (check my
website), especially the link to Chris Pratley's post about "why doesn't
OneNote have feature X?". It explains what the team tries to do when
they are looking at designing a new version of OneNote.

Patrick Schmid

 

[Patrick Schmid]

I think the importing of one page/subpage per original page is a good

feature and I will miss it. I do hope it comes back. Maybe it is just
students, but I suspect anyone who deals with imported documents would want
the option.

I actually still haven't been able to figure out how I would use that
feature in my daily ON usage. The papers and stuff I generally print to
OneNote are around 30 pages max, and I am perfectly happy to have them
in one ON page without any subpages.

Patrick Schmid
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http://pschmid.net