seeing Keyboard Shortcuts for attached 2003 template

[gil]

Hi All,

Is there a way using Word 2007 to see Keyboard Shortcuts for an attached template that has been brought forward and converted from Word 2003 to a "dotm" extension? I have many keyboard shortcuts in it. They still work, but assigning new additional shortcuts would be much easier if I could see the old ones.



The prior shortcuts do not show when I use Customize Keyboard/ Macros/ Save Changes in (attached template).



TIA,

Gil

 

[DeanH]

In 2007 do you not still have the optio to print the Key assignments?
In the Print dialog, bottom left (in 2000/2003 anyway) Print What options,
change to Key assignments.
Hope this helps
DeanH

 

[Peter T. Daniels]

In your Print dialog, the last option is "Print What?" is Keyboard
Shortcuts. This will give you a (very generously formatted) list of
your custom keyboard shortcuts. Print it to pdf unlues you want to use
up an awful lot of paper ... converting it to a Word file so you can
format it into something useful will take a long time because it will
be full of text boxes/frames that don't convert well.

 

[Cheryl Flanders]

The Key Assignments option in Print What only prints a list of the
keyboard shortcuts you have assigned. The ListCommands macro will
create a document in table format that lists all Word commands and pre-
assigned keyboard shortcuts.

Cheryl

 

[Peter T. Daniels]

Where do you find that? (Help, as usual, was no help.)

 

[Cheryl Flanders]

How you get to the macro depends on your version of Word. One way in
all versions is to press Alt + F8 to open the Macro dialog box, drop
down the arrow next to Macros In and select Word Commands, scroll down
the list and select ListCommands, then click Run.

Word 2007 has a ListCommands option you can drag to the QAT. Click
the Office Button/Word Options/Customize, change Choose Commands From
to All Commands.

Cheryl

 

[gil]

Hmmm. I was hoping for something easier. I have a large number of macros with shortcuts. And indeed, Printing Key Assignments
would take more than a hundred pages, I think.



The List Commands function seems only to show default Word Key Assignments, not ones created by the user.



I've not yet figured out how to print to PDF in "Print What/ Key Assignments/ Print to file." I do not have Adobe.



Cheers,

Gil



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How you get to the macro depends on your version of Word. One way in
all versions is to press Alt + F8 to open the Macro dialog box, drop
down the arrow next to Macros In and select Word Commands, scroll down
the list and select ListCommands, then click Run.

Word 2007 has a ListCommands option you can drag to the QAT. Click
the Office Button/Word Options/Customize, change Choose Commands From
to All Commands.

Cheryl

 

[gil]

Aha. I think I see what I've done. I saved by personal template as ..dotm by simply renaming it from .dot. If I open the prior .dot file with Word 2007, the Key Assignments are still there. Perhaps I should leave it as "dot".

Gil



cheers all. I'll play with it some more.



Hi All,

Is there a way using Word 2007 to see Keyboard Shortcuts for an attached template that has been brought forward and converted from Word 2003 to a "dotm" extension? I have many keyboard shortcuts in it. They still work, but assigning new additional shortcuts would be much easier if I could see the old ones.



The prior shortcuts do not show when I use Customize Keyboard/ Macros/ Save Changes in (attached template).



TIA,

Gil

 

[Peter T. Daniels]

Print "Key assignments" using any pdf-maker as the "printer" -- from
force of habit I used pdf995 the first time, and it made a really
awful Word file when converted. When I did it the second time with
Acrobat, the conversion result was somewhat better.

So you should download one of the other free utilities, such as
primopdf or (someone just mentioned) cutepdf and see how they do.

(It seems unlikely that the free Word pdf-creator add-in would also
appear in the Print dialog, but maybe it does!)

 

[Graham Mayor]

You cannot create a DOTM file by renaming a DOT file. You must *save as* DOTM from Word 2007 - or leave it as DOT which Word 2007can handle without problem.

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Aha. I think I see what I've done. I saved by personal template as ..dotm by simply renaming it from .dot. If I open the prior .dot file with Word 2007, the Key Assignments are still there. Perhaps I should leave it as "dot".

Gil



cheers all. I'll play with it some more.



Hi All,

Is there a way using Word 2007 to see Keyboard Shortcuts for an attached template that has been brought forward and converted from Word 2003 to a "dotm" extension? I have many keyboard shortcuts in it. They still work, but assigning new additional shortcuts would be much easier if I could see the old ones.



The prior shortcuts do not show when I use Customize Keyboard/ Macros/ Save Changes in (attached template).



TIA,

Gil

 

[gil]

Thanks Peter. I'll consider it. This has been a recurrent issue for years.
Gil.


Print "Key assignments" using any pdf-maker as the "printer" -- from
force of habit I used pdf995 the first time, and it made a really
awful Word file when converted. When I did it the second time with
Acrobat, the conversion result was somewhat better.

So you should download one of the other free utilities, such as
primopdf or (someone just mentioned) cutepdf and see how they do.

(It seems unlikely that the free Word pdf-creator add-in would also
appear in the Print dialog, but maybe it does!)

 

[gil]

Hi Graham,



I did it initially to see if it would work that way and on the surface, it seemed to work fine right off the bat. And it seemed to be working reasonably for several weeks altho the template file size was far smaller.



When trying to save a 2003 dot file from within Word2007, there is a warning screen that comes up. The wording on the warning screen is so obtuse that you have no idea what is meant. I probably saw the warning screen 15 times and still do not know what is meant by it nor how to move past it.



"The following features in this document are not supported .." But I was saving the TEMPLATE, not the document. Yet, the warning keeps referring to the document.



Then, when trying to exit the document, it repeats but as a different warning: "You are about to save your document to one of the new file formats.." And I think, unless you uncheck the box about maintaining compatibility with 2003, it might run you in a circle, never being able to close.



The wording needs to be more concise clear and simplified. I did not of course type out the entire box wording above.



I'll get there. J



Thanks !

Gil



You cannot create a DOTM file by renaming a DOT file. You must *save as* DOTM from Word 2007 - or leave it as DOT which Word 2007can handle without problem.

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Aha. I think I see what I've done. I saved by personal template as ..dotm by simply renaming it from .dot. If I open the prior .dot file with Word 2007, the Key Assignments are still there. Perhaps I should leave it as "dot".

Gil



cheers all. I'll play with it some more.



Hi All,

Is there a way using Word 2007 to see Keyboard Shortcuts for an attached template that has been brought forward and converted from Word 2003 to a "dotm" extension? I have many keyboard shortcuts in it. They still work, but assigning new additional shortcuts would be much easier if I could see the old ones.



The prior shortcuts do not show when I use Customize Keyboard/ Macros/ Save Changes in (attached template).



TIA,

Gil

 

[gil]

Hmmm. When I am in an attached template's VBA, it does not offer File/ Save As. It offers File/ Save (current template name), File/ Import file, File/ Export file ..... It does not offer to save as a different name.

I'd like to change a prior template to dotm.

tia,
Gil

You cannot create a DOTM file by renaming a DOT file. You must *save as* DOTM from Word 2007 - or leave it as DOT which Word 2007can handle without problem.

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Aha. I think I see what I've done. I saved by personal template as ..dotm by simply renaming it from .dot. If I open the prior .dot file with Word 2007, the Key Assignments are still there. Perhaps I should leave it as "dot".

Gil



cheers all. I'll play with it some more.



Hi All,

Is there a way using Word 2007 to see Keyboard Shortcuts for an attached template that has been brought forward and converted from Word 2003 to a "dotm" extension? I have many keyboard shortcuts in it. They still work, but assigning new additional shortcuts would be much easier if I could see the old ones.



The prior shortcuts do not show when I use Customize Keyboard/ Macros/ Save Changes in (attached template).



TIA,

Gil

 

[Graham Mayor]

Switch from the vba editor to the document editor and SaveAs > Word
Template - pick dotm as the file type.
Can you switch to plain text as some readers do not translate html
correctly.

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[gil]

Hi Graham,



By Document Editor, do you mean



Normal

Project (myProject)

Microsoft Word Objects

This Document (here?)

Forms

Modules



Or do you mean as though saving the document itself?



And I am now getting dotx's instead of dotm's. I think I need to take a break. Is not .dotx real? What happened to dotm?



I'll tune back in later today.



Gil

 

[Peter T. Daniels]

A .dotx is a Word2007 template that doesn't have any macros in it
(yet).

I haven't been able to follow most of what you're saying, but it seems
like you're trying to do things a very hard way! (Why are you even
accessing VBA when dealing with a template?)

 

[gil]

Thanks so much Peter. The dotx question was going to make me see if my psychiatrist had Saturday hours. I never would have
figured that out.



Using the English word "template" is fraught with problems. In general use, it is a "pattern." In MS Word, it is both a document
file that is a form or pattern but it is also a ".dot" file, which I think, stands for "document template".



I go into my "templates" with "VBA" to modify my macros (code) and "UserForms" when needed. Isn't that why others go there?



Some people might keep all their code hidden within a ".doc" file. I've not done that.



I'm going to give this subject a rest for a couple of days.



Gil



A .dotx is a Word2007 template that doesn't have any macros in it
(yet).

I haven't been able to follow most of what you're saying, but it seems
like you're trying to do things a very hard way! (Why are you even
accessing VBA when dealing with a template?)

 

[Peter T. Daniels]

But AIUI (I don't do macros myself; I've gratefully copied a couple
from the kind MVPs here), you don't need to open a template to put a
macro into it; you create it in whichever document happens to be open,
and Word asks if you'd like it saved in your normal.dotm (or the
current template, or some other template) too.

There doesn't seem to be much reason to go into a template unless
something accidentally got changed (perhaps because some checkbox on a
formatting change was mistakenly checked), as in the frequent requests
answered with the standard "Blank Document Not Blank" fix frequently
referenced here.

 

[Graham Mayor]

No. A dotx is a template incapable of storing macros. You can create macros
in a dotx file, but if you want them to remain it must be saved as dotm.

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[Graham Mayor]

When working from within the VBA editor, which I agree would be necessary to
edit vba code, you can only save in its original format. If that format is
dot (Word 97-2003 template format) then that's what it will remain. There is
no Save As option in the VBA editor

In order to save the template in another format, it is necessary to quit the
VBA editor and return to the document view. In Word 2007 you may then, from
the Office Button > Save As > Word Template save as either dotx (the
default) or dotm - or you could leave it in its original dot format, which
Word 2007 will happily use.

If you want the macros to remain in a Word 2007 format template, then you
must change the file type from the Save As dialog (Save As Type - under the
filename box) to dotm. Saving as dotx (without macros) or dotm (with macros)
will not delete the original dot (Word 97-2003 format template).

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