2004: Remove "Junk" toolbar icon

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Gnarlodious

I find the "Junk" toolbar icon makes the "Trash" icon harder to hit and
smaller. Is there a way to remove it?

- - Gnarlie
I felt a great disturbance in the Forum, as if millions of hands suddenly
slapped upon foreheads, and everyone fell down backwards at once.
 
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Norman R. Nager, Ph.D.

Ha! One person's ___ is another person's ____ . I find the "Junk" toolbar
icon one of the improvements that makes it worth the cost of upgrading from
Office X to Office 2004. I find it a timesaver in marking junk mail and in
reversing the junk mail filter's picks.

Hopefully, Gnarlodious, it will be retained and the only changes, if any,
would be to allow customization for you and others who may want it.

Respectfully, Norm
 
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Gnarlodious

Entity Norman R. Nager, Ph.D. spoke thus:
Ha! One person's ___ is another person's ____ . I find the "Junk" toolbar
icon one of the improvements that makes it worth the cost of upgrading from
Office X to Office 2004.
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I rarely receive spam and I do all my own filtering. I'd rather not have the
unknown variable of an autonomous junk filter.
Hopefully, Gnarlodious, it will be retained and the only changes, if any,
would be to allow customization for you and others who may want it.
Click to expand...

Visually the "Junk" button is huge relative to "Delete" button and I'm
finding I hard to distinguish between the 2..

On 5/29/04 6:32 PM, in article BCDEA3DA.56BA%[email protected],
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Thanks, I have done it.

-- Gnarlie
 
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Ken Edwards

I agree.

Its bad usability. The two right next to each other with icons that are very close visually. Squint your eyes so things are blurry. Now look at the two icons. Are you thinking which is which? See, that is bad.

I just sent off a feedback email to MS. This Junk Mail feature should work like Apple Mail. When it is turned off the button, and the Junk Email folder in the folder listings should go bye bye.

I personally use POPFile, and have many Entourage using friends who use SpamSieve. Until any of these major email/PIM apps start using Bayesian spam filtering (and no quasi Bayesian filtering) I will never use the built in Junk Mail features. Apple Mail's junk mail filter is not accurate enough for me, and I have a feeling that Entourage 2004's filtering would not be accurate enough for me. POPFile is 99.41% accurate in 7 months use, you cannot beat that.

I was actually very surprised that Entourage did NOT hide the button and folder, since Mail has this feature.
 
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Paul Berkowitz

Entity Norman R. Nager, Ph.D. spoke thus:


I rarely receive spam and I do all my own filtering. I'd rather not have the
unknown variable of an autonomous junk filter.
Click to expand...

The worse for you if you ever start getting spam. The 2004 version is a
superb filter better than any rules you could make up. If you don't get spam
anyway, I suppose that's not relevant to you at the moment.
Visually the "Junk" button is huge relative to "Delete" button and I'm
finding I hard to distinguish between the 2..
Click to expand...

Not so. they're approximately the same size (in fact "Delete" is a tiny bit
bigger when text is displayed). Depending how wide you keep the main window
and/or message windows, text is displayed or not for various buttons. If not
wide enough, it's true that the "Delete" text evaporates first - perhaps
because the Trash symbol is so well known.

It's quite easy to distinguish between the icons: one of them looks like a
gray trashcan and the other one is a lurid pink envelope, which turns green
when you're looking at junk mail. They don't look at all alike to me. I even
like the fact that they're next to each other so I can quickly eyeball them
and decide which I want this time.

Some day we'll get toolbar customization and then everyone will be happy...


--
Paul Berkowitz
MVP Entourage
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Ken Edwards

Paul, I want to thank you for your Address Book and iCal sync scripts for Entourage. They work very well!
 
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