attached pdf files: increase in size

M

mbar

When I attach a pdf. document ... the file size increases by 150 to
200% when it is sent. In other mail programs I have never encountered
this...or at least to this degree.

entourage 10.1.1
mac os 10.2.5
 
T

Tim Murray

Where to you see this increase? As indicated in the e-mail itself? When the
recipient saves the attachment?

If it is #1 only, it's probably just encoding.
 
W

wt

Phebe Anggreani said:
There are 4 options for encoding:
1. Apple double (for any computer)
2. Mac Binhex
3. Windows
4. Unix

There's a big chance your encoding method is Apple Double that the size grew
that much. You can customize the default encoding from preferences, by the
way. And also change the encoding method on the fly from "Attachments" drop
down menu.

Hth,
pb
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HI and thanks for the ideas and yes I am aware of these option.

In fact I can't see how to disable the APPLEDOUBLE withthe 4 options
(radio buttons) with he combinations of the rhs COMPRESSION options
'NONE' and 'STUFFIT" (in my case).

I have beedn trying this for the last few days and I am unable to just
have the 4MB .PDF file send WITHOUT the "ENCODING NOW" message when I
send it.

any other ideas?

w
 
M

mbar

When I attach a pdf. document ... the file size increases by 150 to
200% when it is sent. In other mail programs I have never encountered
this...or at least to this degree.

entourage 10.1.1
mac os 10.2.5
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I ran a comparison test using the exact same attachments, servers etc.
I sent to myself a 405 mbyte attachment using mozilla 1.4 and
entourage 10.1.1. Mozilla outgoing mail file size was 520 mbytes and
entourages was 1 mbyte. When I received the mail... size of both files
remained unchanged... 520 and 1 mbyte. The upload and download times
also reflected the files sizes also.. mozilla being approx 50% of
entourage's time.

When I saved to disk both attachements... file size returned to
original pdf file size for the mozilla but the pdf file sent through
entourage gained 8 kbytes...

Entourage not only more than doubled the attachment size (encoded) but
also changed the size of the original file... it added something to
the file... is this typical? This is not a big problem when I am
accessing thru a broadband network but while traveling using dial up
and when sending to others with dial up it can be a real problem.
 
M

Mickey Stevens

[email protected] (mbar) wrote in message


I ran a comparison test using the exact same attachments, servers etc.
I sent to myself a 405 mbyte attachment using mozilla 1.4 and
entourage 10.1.1. Mozilla outgoing mail file size was 520 mbytes and
entourages was 1 mbyte. When I received the mail... size of both files
remained unchanged... 520 and 1 mbyte. The upload and download times
also reflected the files sizes also.. mozilla being approx 50% of
entourage's time.

When I saved to disk both attachements... file size returned to
original pdf file size for the mozilla but the pdf file sent through
entourage gained 8 kbytes...

Entourage not only more than doubled the attachment size (encoded) but
also changed the size of the original file... it added something to
the file... is this typical? This is not a big problem when I am
accessing thru a broadband network but while traveling using dial up
and when sending to others with dial up it can be a real problem.
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Keep in mind that Entourage rounds file sizes that are above 512 KB, so a
520 KB attachment would appear to be 1 MB in Entourage, as would a 1510 KB
attachment. You may have better luck sending the file to a different
account and checking the size using a program with a more accurate
determination.
 
P

Paul Berkowitz

Keep in mind that Entourage rounds file sizes that are above 512 KB, so a
520 KB attachment would appear to be 1 MB in Entourage, as would a 1510 KB
attachment. You may have better luck sending the file to a different
account and checking the size using a program with a more accurate
determination.
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Right. The "1MB" just means "more than 512 KB". That's why it saves to its
regular size. It's not actually 1 MB, and I wouldn't worry about it. To get
the actual number of bytes, run this script on the selected message:

tell application "Microsoft Entourage"
activate
set theMsg to item 1 of (get current messages)
set p to ""
repeat with i from 1 to (count attachments of theMsg)
set theAttachment to attachment i of theMsg
set byteSize to data size theAttachment
set kbSize to round (byteSize / 1024) rounding as taught in school
set thename to name of theAttachment
set p to p & thename & ": " & byteSize & " bytes/" & kbSize & " KB"
& return & return
end repeat
if p = "" then set p to "No attachments."
display dialog p
end tell



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MVP Entourage

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T

Tim Murray

also changed the size of the original file... it added something to
the file... is this typical?
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It is quite common to have two files exactly the same in content yet show
two slightly different sizes in the operating system. What you would need to
do is compare them on the binary level. There are lots of programs for this;
one I prefer is Hex Workshop from BreakPoint software. It's pretty cheap and
has a lot of features.
 
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