Default font color in Entourage

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Chuck Bruder

Does anyone know how to set the font color for HTML posts in Entourage to a
color other than black? Do you have to just manually select a different
color from the pull-down menu each time? (What a PAIN!!!!)
 
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Chuck Bruder

I downloaded and ran Message Template X and it works GREAT for setting up
default font colors for HTML e-mail messages. Do you know of anything
similar that will work with newsgroup posts?
 
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Paul Berkowitz

I downloaded and ran Message Template X and it works GREAT for setting up
default font colors for HTML e-mail messages. Do you know of anything similar
that will work with newsgroup posts?
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Don't send stuff like that to newsgroups. It will be greatly resented by
most users unless there's a good reason.

--
Paul Berkowitz
MVP MacOffice
Entourage FAQ Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/faq/index.html>
AppleScripts for Entourage: <http://macscripter.net/scriptbuilders/>

Please "Reply To Newsgroup" to reply to this message. Emails will be
ignored.

PLEASE always state which version of Microsoft Office you are using -
**2004**, X or 2001. It's often impossible to answer your questions
otherwise.
 
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Danny

Chuck said:
I downloaded and ran Message Template X and it works GREAT for setting
up default font colors for HTML e-mail messages. Do you know of anything
similar that will work with newsgroup posts?
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Posts to newsgroups should be in "plain text" (ascii), not html. Please
change your settings.
 
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Chuck Bruder

Well, I have to use newsgroups at work, and they want HTML posts, not
plain-text. So, my question stands.
 
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Chuck Bruder

I¹m not sure that I understand your response. I have to use newsgroups
extensively at work (we conduct graduate instruction using e-classrooms) and
they prefer HTML posts.
 
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Danny

Chuck said:
I’m not sure that I understand your response. I have to use newsgroups
extensively at work (we conduct graduate instruction using e-classrooms)
and they prefer HTML posts.
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Here are a few reasons for using ascii instead of html:

1. Many older newsreaders can't handle html. Only ascii (plain text).
2. A html message is much larger (kb) than a ascii message and will
steal bandwidth.
3. It doesn't add anything to the message, really.
4. Some newsreaders that do handle html are showing extremely small
fonts and you're forcing the viewer to increase font size and fiddle
with the preferences.
5. Your light green text in previous messages were not impossible to
read, but not very easily read either. Why cause problems?

So, if you're sending regular e-mails to people you know, html might be
OK. But to newsgroups, it's polite and considered considerate to use
plain text.

Cheers,
 
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Paul Berkowitz

Here are a few reasons for using ascii instead of html:

1. Many older newsreaders can't handle html. Only ascii (plain text).
2. A html message is much larger (kb) than a ascii message and will
steal bandwidth.
3. It doesn't add anything to the message, really.
4. Some newsreaders that do handle html are showing extremely small
fonts and you're forcing the viewer to increase font size and fiddle
with the preferences.
5. Your light green text in previous messages were not impossible to
read, but not very easily read either. Why cause problems?

So, if you're sending regular e-mails to people you know, html might be
OK. But to newsgroups, it's polite and considered considerate to use
plain text.
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I'm not sure you read Chuck's answer, Dan. He's not wanting to send HTML to
usenet groups, as we all presumed. He says he's required to use them for
graduate instruction at work. That implies:

1. Nobody is using an older newsreader. All students are using the
newsreaders they've been give, which can all do HTML.
2. They have more than enough bandwidth.
3. There are aspects where formatting may add something to their messages.
4. They've got fonts set up to accommodate.
5. The colors aren't seen as problems.


OK, Chuck, you can use the script to do this already.

1. Open a new news message to a newsgroup you handle.
2. Set it up as an HTML template as you'd like.
3. Save it.
4. If your default email account is IMAP - even if the "email account" for
the news server is POP - you'll find the saved news message draft in your
IMAP Drafts folder. Move or copy it to your local Drafts folder "On My
Computer". (If POP, skip this step: it's already in local Drafts).

Now you can use that message as your template.

5. Repeat for each such newsgroup you need, separately. Or duplicate the
template, open it, and change the newsgroup. (Or you can add multiple
newsgroups if you want to cross-post.)

--
Paul Berkowitz
MVP MacOffice
Entourage FAQ Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/faq/index.html>
AppleScripts for Entourage: <http://macscripter.net/scriptbuilders/>

Please "Reply To Newsgroup" to reply to this message. Emails will be
ignored.

PLEASE always state which version of Microsoft Office you are using -
**2004**, X or 2001. It's often impossible to answer your questions
otherwise.
 
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Danny

Paul Berkowitz wrote:

I'm not sure you read Chuck's answer, Dan. He's not wanting to send HTML to
usenet groups, as we all presumed. He says he's required to use them for
graduate instruction at work. That implies:
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I did read it, but obviously didn't understand.
Sorry. Hope he get it sorted out, then.

Cheers,
 
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Chuck Bruder

Paul-
Thanks so much for your advice about using Message Template X with
newsgroups. I wasn¹t aware of the inclination to use ASCII rather than HTML
in newsgroups, but your assumptions about our use of HTML are exactly right.

Students are given technology specifications from the outset that specify an
HTML capable newsreader. We do set fonts to allow easy viewing, and we are,
as faculty, encouraged to use a color other then black for our posts to
newsgroups in order to make them distinctive as faculty input. We DO NOT use
lots of nonsense graphics to clutter the screen or consume bandwidth (at
least, I don¹t).

Again, thanks for your help in configuring Message Template X for use with
newsgroups. BTW, I¹m curious why MS left this feature (default font color
for newsgroup posts) out of Entourage 2004 when it is included in MS OE
v6.0.

Best,
Chuck
 
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Adam Bailey

Chuck Bruder said:
BTW, I¹m curious why MS left this feature (default font color
for newsgroup posts) out of Entourage 2004 when it is included in MS OE
v6.0.
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Entourage is written by a completely different development team as Windows
Outlook Express. They have entirely separate development goals and
guidelines.
 
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