Entourage 2004 and recent Palm's

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RockyRoad

I have Entourage v.X. Does Entourage 2004 support the new databases in
recent palms (ie. "Tasks" rathe than "ToDos", "Contacts" rather than
"Addresses", etc.)?

And do the categories work between Palm and Entourage?

Thanks
 
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Tim Harbison

RockyRoad said:
I have Entourage v.X. Does Entourage 2004 support the new databases in
recent palms (ie. "Tasks" rathe than "ToDos", "Contacts" rather than
"Addresses", etc.)?

And do the categories work between Palm and Entourage?

Thanks
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Unfortunately, no.

I really wish it did. I'd much rather use Entourage than the ugly Palm
Desktop app, but I've resigned myself to the fact that it ain't gonna
happen any time in the near future.
 
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Mike Bonnice

Yes and yes. I use Entourage 2004 and a Treo 650. Everything syncs. I
don't know what the databases are called (i.e. "Tasks" versus "ToDos"),
I just know that tasks in Entourage show up as tasks in Palm, address
book items show up as contacts in Palm, calendar items show up in the
Palm calendar, and notes show up as memos.

Categories work, but it's better to create them on the Palm first, then
assign them to items in Entourage. Entourage allows more categories
than Palm, and in Entourage an item can belong to more than one category.

Mike
 
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Paul Berkowitz

They DO work, when you check the appropriate checkbox in the Entourage
Conduit settings to allow them. But they still have only the functionality
they always did - one postal address, no birthdays, no event categories. If
you enter any of the "extra" data in Entourage it stays there, but if you
enter it on the Palm, it disappears - just remember that. MS have introduced
some really good workarounds: you can actually sync the separate elements of
the 2nd address (home or work) - street address, city, sate, zip - to Palm
custom fields which can even be renamed appropriately by the sync.

It's fine to create the categories in Entourage, but only 15 will sync, and
on the Palm they will display only the primary category. And they don't sync
for events.

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Paul Berkowitz

Unfortunately, no.
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Yes they do, as long as you check the checkbox in the Conduit settings, and
with the previous limitations. See my last post.
I really wish it did. I'd much rather use Entourage than the ugly Palm
Desktop app, but I've resigned myself to the fact that it ain't gonna
happen any time in the near future.
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Says who? I guess it depends what you mean by "near future". Microsoft have
announced that there will be a free update of Entourage "in the second half
of the year" for Tiger Sync Services. I'd be really surprised if it didn't
also include syncing to the new Palm fields. They would have done it last
time if palmOne had given them any notice of the changes.


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RockyRoad

Mike Bonnice said:
Yes and yes. I use Entourage 2004 and a Treo 650. Everything syncs. I
don't know what the databases are called (i.e. "Tasks" versus "ToDos"),
I just know that tasks in Entourage show up as tasks in Palm, address
book items show up as contacts in Palm, calendar items show up in the
Palm calendar, and notes show up as memos.
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Excellent - thanks.
 
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RockyRoad

Paul Berkowitz said:
They DO work, when you check the appropriate checkbox in the Entourage
Conduit settings to allow them. But they still have only the functionality
they always did - one postal address, no birthdays, no event categories. If
you enter any of the "extra" data in Entourage it stays there, but if you
enter it on the Palm, it disappears - just remember that.
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That's a shame about the Birthdays. I use Agendus on the Palm and make
lots of use of Birthdays and Anniversaries with alarms set on them.
 
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Paul Berkowitz

That's a shame about the Birthdays. I use Agendus on the Palm and make
lots of use of Birthdays and Anniversaries with alarms set on them.
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It's not a shame. You still get that. In Entourage itself, when you enter a
Birthday in a contact, there's a gizmo next to the date field you just
entered that has an "Add to Calendar" menu item. Select it. That adds the
birthday to the _calendar_ as an all day event, with the same category,
titled "Birthday: Contact Name". By default it has a 5-day-ahead reminder
(alarm). Since it's now a calendar event, it syncs to your Palm, alarm
included. It will show up with that "Birthday" title. Anniversary has
exactly the same feature (as do the two other Custom Date fields).

So you get the same feature as you';re using now. What you don't get is the
Birthday field _of the contact_ synced to the Palm contact. But you do get
it as a Calendar event, complete with alarm, if you selected that date gizmo
item back in Entourage.

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Elizabeth H.

Does anyone know how to deal w/ the apparent problem of Entourage 2004
reading events entered on a Palm and then synced as invitations from
someone else? I am unable to invite others to an event if it was
originally entered on my Treo 600 (or my m515 when I had that). This
was not a problem in Entourage X. I'm running OS 10.3.3 This is a
major hassle for me and my family/co-workers.

Thanks, Elizabeth in PDX
 
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Tim Harbison

Paul said:
Yes they do, as long as you check the checkbox in the Conduit settings, and
with the previous limitations. See my last post.
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Well, that may work for some, but as far as I'm concerned, the answer to
the OPs question is no. Sync only supports the old database format.
Yes, technically, you can get the stuff into and out of the new database
using that format, but it's only half way there. It doesn't actually
support the new palm database format with the additional fields,
categories, etc.

I understand your point though.
Says who? I guess it depends what you mean by "near future". Microsoft have
announced that there will be a free update of Entourage "in the second half
of the year" for Tiger Sync Services. I'd be really surprised if it didn't
also include syncing to the new Palm fields. They would have done it last
time if palmOne had given them any notice of the changes.
Click to expand...

I think they've had plenty of time if they wanted to support the new
Palms. Supporting Tiger Sync Services and supporting a competing
handheld service (though arguably similar) are worlds apart when it
comes to strategy. I'm actually surprised that they haven't built sync
for PocketPC Sync into their Mac products yet... that or removed all
sync support entirely. Strategically, either one would make sense.
 
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Paul Berkowitz

I think they've had plenty of time if they wanted to support the new
Palms. Supporting Tiger Sync Services and supporting a competing
handheld service (though arguably similar) are worlds apart when it
comes to strategy.
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I guess you haven't looked into Sync Services.

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MVP MacOffice
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