Entourage Relaunches on its

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EmuPooh Nonames

I have noted that Entourage vX with all the upto date patches etc.(PB G4
17in 1G RAM/Airport-> ADSL/ OSX 10.3). Has over the last couple of days
relaunching on its own.

The time frame is usually between 30 and 60 minutes or less.

I have removed the start up daemon in the user login/start up section.

The progress window doesn't pass out any emails etc. The resting state is
set to Off line

My Schedules are all on setting of retain present state.

I have no know apple scripts except that of Spamfire (which has not be
active when these 'auto - launches' have occurred.

Last scanned my HD with virex last night and given clean bill of health.


Any suggests as to how to stop this occuring.

PS. Also have rebuilt desktop along the way.

Cheers Paul
 
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Diane Ross

I have noted that Entourage vX with all the upto date patches etc.(PB G4
17in 1G RAM/Airport-> ADSL/ OSX 10.3). Has over the last couple of days
relaunching on its own.

The time frame is usually between 30 and 60 minutes or less.

I have removed the start up daemon in the user login/start up section.
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The daemon allows the Reminder to work even if all MS applications are
closed. It does not startup Entourage.

When you say relaunching, do mean you have quit Entourage and the
application starts up, or is a schedule firing to download mail?

It sounds like a schedule is firing and your Offline status is not being
honored. Could be a corrupt preference.

Create a new identity in Entourage (you'll need to create your account to
test) and see if the problem happens in the new identity.
 
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EmuPooh Nonames

The daemon allows the Reminder to work even if all MS applications are
closed. It does not startup Entourage.

When you say relaunching, do mean you have quit Entourage and the
application starts up, or is a schedule firing to download mail?

It sounds like a schedule is firing and your Offline status is not being
honored. Could be a corrupt preference.

Create a new identity in Entourage (you'll need to create your account to
test) and see if the problem happens in the new identity.
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Yes - I quit the Entourage App. Then sometime over the hour it will
spontaneously restart/launch itself.

Following your advice (Diane)

I have tried the creating a new identity, and deleting all the scheduled
actions (for some reason with all but the 'Send and Receive All' schedule in
place on both the test and original identities).

The App still relaunches itself within about an hour of quitting the app.

I have rebuilt the database atypically about a week ago when I got 4363
error. All working well except for the relaunch issue.

Cheers Paul
 
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Paul Berkowitz

Yes - I quit the Entourage App. Then sometime over the hour it will
spontaneously restart/launch itself.

Following your advice (Diane)

I have tried the creating a new identity, and deleting all the scheduled
actions (for some reason with all but the 'Send and Receive All' schedule in
place on both the test and original identities).

The App still relaunches itself within about an hour of quitting the app.

I have rebuilt the database atypically about a week ago when I got 4363
error. All working well except for the relaunch issue.
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Have you, or someone you know, been playing with utilities that can do stuff
on a schedule, such as CronniX or cron in the Terminal?

--
Paul Berkowitz
MVP Entourage
Entourage FAQ Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/toc.html>
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PLEASE always state which version of Entourage you are using - 2001 or X.
It's often impossible to answer your questions otherwise.
 
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EmuPooh Nonames

Have you, or someone you know, been playing with utilities that can do stuff
on a schedule, such as CronniX or cron in the Terminal?
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I run cocktail usually every 2 - 4 weeks (last ran about 2 weeks ago). It
has a cron option which is active in the settings that I use.

Emu
 
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Paul Berkowitz

Well, that's what must be relaunching Entourage. Turn it all off to confirm,
then adjust the settings. I don't really know anything about it, but I
wonder if it uses abbreviated process names, such as you see in top. For
example, if it just used "Microsoft" instead of "Microsoft Database Daemon",
that might set off "Microsoft Entourage" instead.

--
Paul Berkowitz
MVP Entourage
Entourage FAQ Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/toc.html>
AppleScripts for Entourage: <http://macscripter.net/scriptbuilders/>

Please "Reply To Newsgroup" to reply to this message. Emails will be
ignored.

PLEASE always state which version of Entourage you are using - 2001 or X.
It's often impossible to answer your questions otherwise.
 
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EmuPooh Nonames

Well, that's what must be relaunching Entourage. Turn it all off to confirm,
then adjust the settings. I don't really know anything about it, but I
wonder if it uses abbreviated process names, such as you see in top. For
example, if it just used "Microsoft" instead of "Microsoft Database Daemon",
that might set off "Microsoft Entourage" instead.
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Well I believe that I have tracked down the cause of the problem.

I did not state in the initial commentary that I run Spamfire to sift out
the vast amounts of spam that I get.

After almost removing large tuffs of hair over this (a small but highly
annoying thing) and changing all my schedules, identities, preferences,
turned off notifications, removed the daemon, did viral scans for some
little backdoor virus etc. Removing Cocktail.app

I place Entourage.app in the trash (not deleted), I noticed that there was
attempted activation of it even there (this is after the above steps).

I not having been very aware of the unix/terminal had not gone to this as a
last resort.

I did however this evening finally check my logs. The system.log file showed
that Cron was indeed activating Entourage (via this Spamfire Agent).

Example of the code is included:
Feb 26 20:45:00 localhost CRON[636]: (xxx) CMD (/usr/bin/open
"/Applications/Spamfire.app/Contents/MacOS/Spamfire Agent")

Feb 26 20:45:24 localhost /Applications/Spamfire.app/Contents/MacOS/Spamfire
Agent: LaunchApplication(/Applications/Microsoft Office X/Microsoft
Entourage)

I load up Spamfire and the newest update has within the preferences (and in
my case ticked) and option to "Perform scheduled checks via cron", this
allows for the app to background checks without Spamfire being open.

I have unselected this option and the is now a greater degree of control to
Entourage - ahhhh, much better.

Thanks for help,

Emu

(control freak)
 
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Diane Ross

Well I believe that I have tracked down the cause of the problem.

I did not state in the initial commentary that I run Spamfire to sift out
the vast amounts of spam that I get.
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Thanks for the feedback. Nice to know what caused your problem.
 
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