Front Page 30 day trial CD

[Thanks]

I want to know how to make a web page. I got the 30 day
free trial CD. No info on how to use it came with it. I'd
but the retail version if I can only find out how to use
it. This, obviously, is new territory for me. Any help
out there? Any place where operating instructions can be
found?
Thanks

 

[Rio]

I'm still a beginner but this web site was the best in my
opinion. If you want to learn basic this is the place

http://www.w3schools.com/default.asp

Rio

 

[Ron]

Thanks Rio. I'll give it a try.
Ron

-----Original Message-----
I'm still a beginner but this web site was the best in my
opinion. If you want to learn basic this is the place

http://www.w3schools.com/default.asp

Rio

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[Ron]

i'm still interested in getting the information that
pertains specifically to the MS Front Page 30 day CD.
Seems they'd like us to be able to see how it works if
they want us to buy retail versions???? Anybody know how
to get step-by-step guidance for the program?

 

[clintonG]

Yes, W3Schools is an excellent resource. Add it to your Favorites
now as it amongst the best of the best. A collection of reference works
is invaluable.

However as you note you need to start by learning FrontPage itself...

Generally speaking, the FrontPage books are recycled toilet paper
nothing more than screen shots and plaigarized text taken from the
help files and again, in general, not worth spending money on until
you get more experienced learning to separate the wheat from
the chaffe.

So here's the good news and its right under your nose. FrontPage 2003
has an excellent help system available through the 'task pane.'

All you need to do is go to the Help > Microsoft FrontPage Help menu.
Observe the link for the 'Table of Contents' and click it. The rest
should become obvious.

--
<%= Clinton Gallagher
A/E/C Consulting, Web Design, e-Commerce Software Development
Wauwatosa, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin USA
NET (e-mail address removed)
URL http://www.metromilwaukee.com/clintongallagher/

 

[Craig Schiller]

Ron -

Contrary to ClintonG's message, I found a book called "Smarter Faster
Web Pages" to have an extremely useful tutorial chapter on FrontPage. It
got me off to a very good start.

HTH,
Craig

 

[xmas]

Ron,

Try this and see if it helps...

http://office.microsoft.com/training/courselist.aspx?CategoryID=CR0618327010
33&CTT=4&Origin=ES790000501033

Just a thought....

 

[clintonG]

Hey -- that was an excellent resource. Thanks for posting it.
Like xmas come early ;-)

I would venture to say those resources are also referred to
somehow and somewhere using the FrontPage 2003 help system
as I've attempted to point out. I got a little ahead of myself
as FrontPage 2003 is just now being RTM.

Regardless, what our respective referrals clearly show is the
emerging trend to provide User Assistance as a complete system
served over the web using content on the server rather than
depending on static and often outdated content on the client's
machine in a 'help file' or having to spend forty bucks a pop for
what is most frequently the case nothing more than plaigarized content
printed on recycled toilet paper. Hello? Is anybody home? ;-)

The new user interface element called the task pane is the 'hot spot'
and also exposes opportunity for others developing User Assistance
as well as integrating new applications that will function on remote
servers yet be accessible to the user right from the desktop within
the application they are using.

FrontPage 2003 is worth the upgrade on this basis alone as the task
pane is a new window to the world except...FrontPage 2003 has failed
miserably for those needing and wanting a companion product used
with Visual Studio.NET. In this last context I am steadfastly bullish as it
affects my work in an adverse manner.

--
<%= Clinton Gallagher
A/E/C Consulting, Web Design, e-Commerce Software Development
Wauwatosa, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin USA
NET (e-mail address removed)
URL http://www.metromilwaukee.com/clintongallagher/

 

[Jim Cheshire]

Clinton,

I really wish that you would give some specifics as to what problems you are
encountering with VS.NET and FrontPage. I'm not saying you aren't having
any. I'd just like to know what they are because I work extensively in
both, and I don't have any problems.

--
Jim Cheshire
Jimco Add-ins
http://www.jimcoaddins.com
===================================
Co-author of Special Edition
Using Microsoft FrontPage 2003
Order it today!
http://sefp2003.frontpagelink.com

 

[clintonG]

I'm replying in .NET vernacular as I am confident that you know
the difference between 'controls' and what we used to refer to
as 'HTML elements' before the framework was released replete
with its appropo OO vernacular. I'm also referring to FrontPage
2003 in this discussion.

So briefly -- and but several of many such specifics -- FrontPage
needs the equivalent of the Visual Studio.NET toolbox that supports
generating a layout using web server controls.

Now don't get wierd on me. I'm not asking for or suggesting that
they function as web server controls within the FrontPage IDE.
Simply to be accessible as visual elements occupying space within
a page when designing and developing the user interface and have
well formed and valid declarations within the source.

FrontPage should also know how to create a new .aspx project
as a native file format. As I recall it takes eight steps to create a
new file and save it as an .aspx file. That is ridiculous.

FrontPage needs to support round-trips to and from
Visual Studio.NET

I've clearly said as much in other threads where you rebutted
claiming that FrontPage 'does' support web server controls but the
facts are that FrontPage does not 'generate' web server controls.
FrontPage generates HTML controls.

Support for these several issues would make a good start towards
achieving interoperability with Visual Studio.NET.

<%= Clinton Gallagher

 

[Jim Cheshire]

There is no such thing as a "native file format" for an ASP.NET application.
ASPX files are simply HTML files with a .aspx file extension. Create a new
Web site. Create a new page. Add whatever code you want. Save the file
with a .aspx file extension. Publish the Web site. *BOOM*. ASP.NET
application.

Eight steps to create an ASP.NET file?! It takes one step. File, Save As.
I think you might be doing something wrong somewhere, Clinton. If you can
give specifics of the problems you're having, I'm sure someone here can help
you out. Many of us are ASP.NET developers and use FrontPage to develop
some content on our ASP.NET sites.

Round-trips to and from VS.NET. FrontPage does support this and it works
very well. I do it all the time, and I talk to developers every day who are
doing it as well. Again, what problems are you having?

As I said in my other thread, I agree that it would be cool to have the
ability to add server controls and configure them via the UI in FrontPage,
but Microsoft doesn't intend for FrontPage to be a full-featured ASP.NET
development tool. VS.NET is the tool they offer to fit that bill. It's a
small sacrifice. I'd prefer to do my development with server controls in
VS.NET anyway.

--
Jim Cheshire
Jimco Add-ins
http://www.jimcoaddins.com
===================================
Co-author of Special Edition
Using Microsoft FrontPage 2003
Order it today!
http://sefp2003.frontpagelink.com