How do I stop symbol crashing?

[Martin]

In a presentation with less then or equal values, I use the character that
looks most like my Arial font. I use character code 163, Symbol (decimal) and
it looks fine and appears the best on-screen for the over head presentations,
but crashes into the font on printing. I use chararacter code 2264, Unicode
(hex) for perfect printing, but looks far different on-screen and prints the
most like Arial font. I want to find a solid character (< or =) that both
looks like Arial and prints like Arial. Any ideas?

XP Pro 2002 SP1, P4 - 2.79Ghz, .99GB

Thanks, Martin

 

[Bill Foley]

I guess I'm confused. Why aren't you using the < or = keys on the keyboard
instead of trying to insert symbols?

 

[Echo S]

I can understand that. If you want a greater-than-equal-to symbol
(greater-than with a line underneath it), you have to insert a symbol.
Greater-than-equal-to (or less-than-equal-to) isn't actually on my keyboard,
anyway.

Greater-than with an underline doesn't look as good as the symbol, either.

 

[Martin]

Exactly, Echo S. Yes, I am looking for a single symbol/font to represent
"greater (or less) than and equal-to" any number.
I've used Insert>Symbol to place the different item in my text. The two
types of 'character codes' associated are different, yet similar. Please help.

Martin

I can understand that. If you want a greater-than-equal-to symbol
(greater-than with a line underneath it), you have to insert a symbol.
Greater-than-equal-to (or less-than-equal-to) isn't actually on my keyboard,
anyway.

Greater-than with an underline doesn't look as good as the symbol, either.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com

I guess I'm confused. Why aren't you using the < or = keys on the
keyboard instead of trying to insert symbols?

 

[Echo S]

Well, I use the actual Symbol font when I go to Insert/Symbol.
(Insert/Symbol, select Symbol from the font drop-down.)

It doesn't crash my printer. I suspect the problem is the printer drivers,
not the actual symbol. Have you updated your printer drivers?

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com

Exactly, Echo S. Yes, I am looking for a single symbol/font to
represent "greater (or less) than and equal-to" any number.
I've used Insert>Symbol to place the different item in my text. The
two
types of 'character codes' associated are different, yet similar.
Please help.

Martin

I can understand that. If you want a greater-than-equal-to symbol
(greater-than with a line underneath it), you have to insert a
symbol. Greater-than-equal-to (or less-than-equal-to) isn't actually
on my keyboard, anyway.

Greater-than with an underline doesn't look as good as the symbol,
either.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com

I guess I'm confused. Why aren't you using the < or = keys on the
keyboard instead of trying to insert symbols?

In a presentation with less then or equal values, I use the
character that looks most like my Arial font. I use character code
163, Symbol (decimal) and it looks fine and appears the best
on-screen for the over head presentations, but crashes into the
font on printing. I use chararacter code 2264, Unicode (hex) for
perfect printing, but looks far different on-screen and prints the
most like Arial font. I want to find a solid character (< or =)
that both looks like Arial and prints like Arial. Any ideas?

XP Pro 2002 SP1, P4 - 2.79Ghz, .99GB

Thanks, Martin

 

[JanAdam]

It may be that the printer uses its own fonts and does not have a font
representing ‘greater than or equal to’ in Arial and therefore defaults to a
font that it considers closest to what you wanted. Have you tried to print it
on a different printer (with more fonts) or having everything in Times New
Roman, for instance? I am not suggesting using different fonts, it is just to
see if this is the source of the problem.

 

[Martin]

Great thought. It is these particular characters. I was hoping for a
suggested 'neutral' character that would be the best of both worlds (printing
and On Screen). I know this is going to come back to me and I have no
suggestion to make them happy, you know?

Martin

 

[JanAdam]

Perhaps a stupid thought, but to fool the printer you may try to print to a
file and then copy the file to print? But I would try first to update the
printer driver as Echo S suggests.

 

[Martin]

Thank you for the input. This situation is in a corporate setting, precluding
the altering of any drivers. They have a sharp IT group and am aware that the
drivers are up to date. Again, great idea. I do try to keep my firmware and
drivers Very current esp. at home, for just such issues, while
working/consulting from home. Still, we have 2 Cannon 1180s both with a
respective Fiery print server. A HP Laserjet 4100 TN w/3 trays (500sheet ea).
No memory issues there. Everything networked. Have purchased all Adobe fonts,
etc.

Martin

 

[Martin]

Acrobat usage is a great idea, but in a production setting it becomes
counter-productive (timewise) to pdf everytime. The only other option I'm
seeing is to have two simulataneous ppts files. That's just crazy.

 

[Bill Foley]

What is wrong with CTRL+U (to turn on underline), then the ">" sign on the
keyboard, then CTRL+U to turn it off?

--
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Microsoft Office Specialist Master Instructor
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"Success, something you measure when you are through succeeding."

I can understand that. If you want a greater-than-equal-to symbol
(greater-than with a line underneath it), you have to insert a symbol.
Greater-than-equal-to (or less-than-equal-to) isn't actually on my
keyboard,
anyway.

Greater-than with an underline doesn't look as good as the symbol, either.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com

I guess I'm confused. Why aren't you using the < or = keys on the
keyboard instead of trying to insert symbols?

 

[Echo S]

Hm. What if you go to Tools/Options/Print and select "print true type fonts
as graphics"?

 

[Echo S]

Hey! Who let this guy out of the box? Every time you do that, he starts to
THINK out there and look what happens!

<g> Nice one, mister. The underline strokes might be a bit different than the
font itself but not enough to get het up over. And heck, it's a dry het.

<ahem>

 

[Bill Foley]

Even a blind acorn find's a squirrel every now and then!