Office:mac 2004. No certificates show up in the address book

[Axel Hammerschmidt]

Hello

The certificates in MS Cert Manager do not show up in the Certificates
pane in En'rage's address book. Is there a switch or something, that I
have overlooked? I am on version 11.3.2 (061213). Office Notification is
off.

TIA.

 

[Corentin Cras-Méneur]

Hello

The certificates in MS Cert Manager do not show up in the Certificates
pane in En'rage's address book.

Indeed they don't. I believe the option is simply not there.

Is there a switch or something, that I
have overlooked? I am on version 11.3.2 (061213). Office Notification is
off.

Not really.
Certificates are imported through the MS Cert Manager straight in the
Keychain. You should be able to find them all in the Keychain
application.


Corentin

 

[Axel Hammerschmidt]

Indeed they don't. I believe the option is simply not there.


Not really.
Certificates are imported through the MS Cert Manager straight in the
Keychain. You should be able to find them all in the Keychain
application.

Thank you. how can I encrypt an e-mail message from En'rage with the
recipient's certificate?

 

[Axel Hammerschmidt]

Thank you. how can I encrypt an e-mail message from En'rage with the
recipient's certificate?

I think I found out: you export the certificate from Cert Manager and
import the certificate into the Keychain Access. My conclusion is; the
only use one has for Cert Manager is as a temporary retainer when the
certificate arrives in the form of a digitally signed e-mail and you
choose to add the contact's certificate to... ? What? I would have
thought the address book.

Strange though that it isn't on display in the address book.

However, the reason probably is, that the name that I was looking at
contains Danish language characters. The name doesn't show up in the
upper pane in Keychain Access either. So it's probably really there, in
the contact's certificate pane in the address book - after it has been
imported into Keychain Access, because other contacts with certificates,
without Danish language characters in their name, do show up in the
certificate pane of the address book when their certficate has been
exported from Cert Manager and imported into Keychain Access.

I will call it: The invisible certificate bug

 

[Axel Hammerschmidt]

I think I found out: you export the certificate from Cert Manager and
import the certificate into the Keychain Access. My conclusion is; the
only use one has for Cert Manager is as a temporary retainer when the
certificate arrives in the form of a digitally signed e-mail and you
choose to add the contact's certificate to... ? What? I would have
thought the address book.

Strange though that it isn't on display in the address book.

However, the reason probably is, that the name that I was looking at
contains Danish language characters. The name doesn't show up in the
upper pane in Keychain Access either. So it's probably really there, in
the contact's certificate pane in the address book - after it has been
imported into Keychain Access, because other contacts with certificates,
without Danish language characters in their name, do show up in the
certificate pane of the address book when their certficate has been
exported from Cert Manager and imported into Keychain Access.

I will call it: The invisible certificate bug

Update!

If, after importing the certificate into Keychain Access, you chose to
import the certificate from the .cer file, the name does not disapear in
the certificate pane in address book.

Phew!

So you have to first add to contact (if that's the way you received the
certificate). Then, first import the certificate into Keychain access.
And then, after doing that, import the certificate into the certificate
pane in En'rage's Address Book.

And the name of the owner of the certificate remains invisible in the
upper pane of Keychain Acces though.

New name: The re-appearing invisible certificate bug.

 

[Corentin Cras-Méneur]

Thank you. how can I encrypt an e-mail message from En'rage with the
recipient's certificate?

Yes you can. You need to have your own cert associated with the account
in Entourage. Then you need to have imported the public cert of your
contact. After that you should be able to encrypt e-mails sent to this
person.

Corentin

 

[Corentin Cras-Méneur]

I think I found out: you export the certificate from Cert Manager and
import the certificate into the Keychain Access.

You shouldn't have to. If you clicked to impor the Cert of your Contact
in Entourage, it shoudl automatically go in your Keychain.

My conclusion is; the
only use one has for Cert Manager is as a temporary retainer when the
certificate arrives in the form of a digitally signed e-mail and you
choose to add the contact's certificate to... ? What? I would have
thought the address book.

The Cert Manager makes the connection between Entourage and the
Keychain.

Strange though that it isn't on display in the address book.

When you receive a signed e-mail from your contacts, you should be able
to import the Cert. Once you've imported it, can you see it in the
Security pane of the Contact in your address book??

How do you import the Certs??

However, the reason probably is, that the name that I was looking at
contains Danish language characters.

My contacts have accented letters. That shouldn't make a difference.

The name doesn't show up in the
upper pane in Keychain Access either. So it's probably really there, in
the contact's certificate pane in the address book - after it has been
imported into Keychain Access, because other contacts with certificates,
without Danish language characters in their name, do show up in the
certificate pane of the address book when their certficate has been
exported from Cert Manager and imported into Keychain Access.

I will call it: The invisible certificate bug

There might indeed be something fishy there. I'm making some tests to
see what I can reproduce on my Mac but that does sound weird indeed.

Corentin

 

[Corentin Cras-Méneur]

Update!

If, after importing the certificate into Keychain Access, you chose to
import the certificate from the .cer file, the name does not disapear in
the certificate pane in address book.

Phew!

That's a start.

So you have to first add to contact (if that's the way you received the
certificate). Then, first import the certificate into Keychain access.
And then, after doing that, import the certificate into the certificate
pane in En'rage's Address Book.

It still looks weird. As far as I remember, it should be a LOT easier
than that. If you create a contact in Entourage, all you should have to
do is to open a signed message from this person to be able to import the
cert in one click: no import-export tricks.
The Cert manager should have the cert in the Individual category and the
cert shoudl also be visible in the keychain. They should all work hand
in hand.
I might try to delete some of the Cert I have in my keychain and ask a
few people I know with Cert to send me signed e-mails to make some
tests.

And the name of the owner of the certificate remains invisible in the
upper pane of Keychain Acces though.

New name: The re-appearing invisible certificate bug.

:-D

Corentin

 

[Axel Hammerschmidt]

My contacts have accented letters. That shouldn't make a difference.


There might indeed be something fishy there. I'm making some tests to
see what I can reproduce on my Mac but that does sound weird indeed.

I think I have the answer. You are using a French Office:mac 2004. There
is no Danish language version. I have to use a non-danish version,
English. This affects the Keychain Access database, when the name has
danish characters.

 

[Axel Hammerschmidt]

I think I have the answer. You are using a French Office:mac 2004. There
is no Danish language version. I have to use a non-danish version,
English. This affects the Keychain Access database, when the name has
danish characters.

And my Mac OS X is also an English language version.

 

[Corentin Cras-Méneur]

And my Mac OS X is also an English language version.

So is mine (though I switch between French and English from time to time
for various reasons).

The System is a multi-lingual environment. There is no US or French
version per se: only one disctribution with a different set of
ressources to be displayed depending on the preferences ofr the language
of the UI.
I have rarely seen localization-specific bugs at the System level (all
apps use the same base and only the UI looks different).

Office is a different beast. Office doesn't provide apps in Bundles
(except for Messenger maybe) so the apps are "mono-lingual" for their
UI. There is indeed a different version of the apps for available
languages.

Since you and I are using the same version of Office, I have all the
cards in my hand to reproduce your problem.

I deleted some of the Certs I had for some of my contacts and I am now
waiting to receive signed messages from them to try and see if I can
reproduce what you are describing.

Corentin

 

[Corentin Cras-Méneur]

I think I have the answer. You are using a French Office:mac 2004.

Well that could have been some sort of explanation.... except that I am
using the US version of Office (I don't currently live in France).

There
is no Danish language version. I have to use a non-danish version,
English. This affects the Keychain Access database, when the name has
danish characters.

It might be somethign with the Cert Manager indeed, but the Keychain
Access application sure has no problem with non-US ASCII characters on
my Mac.
The Certs for my own names have accented letters and that has never been
a problem.

Corentin