Open Office anyone?

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Amnon Feiner

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Better, way better then Mess-Office. It does everything mess-office does,
forfree.
http://openoffice.org

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TIA
Amnon Feiner
http://www.woodcontour.com
Solid Wood and Stone PC Peripherals
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Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Sorry - incorrect information being posted here. No Outlook application,
included with all versions of Office to date. Access application woefully
lacking customizability (is that even a word?), etc.

Nice try. I downloaded the latest, tried it, removed it after about a month
of hard trial. Not even close to Office 97, more like Office 95, including
the crashing.


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Amnon Feiner asked:

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| Better, way better then Mess-Office. It does everything mess-office
| does, forfree.
| http://openoffice.org
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| - --
| TIA
| Amnon Feiner
| http://www.woodcontour.com
| Solid Wood and Stone PC Peripherals
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Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Sorry - incorrect information being posted here. No Outlook application,
included with all versions of Office to date. Access application woefully
lacking customizability (is that even a word?), etc.

Nice try. I downloaded the latest, tried it, removed it after about a month
of hard trial. Not even close to Office 97, more like Office 95, including
the crashing.


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Amnon Feiner asked:

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| Hash: SHA1
|
| Better, way better then Mess-Office. It does everything mess-office
| does, forfree.
| http://openoffice.org
|
| - --
| TIA
| Amnon Feiner
| http://www.woodcontour.com
| Solid Wood and Stone PC Peripherals
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M

Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Sorry - incorrect information being posted here. No Outlook application,
included with all versions of Office to date. Access application woefully
lacking customizability (is that even a word?), etc.

Nice try. I downloaded the latest, tried it, removed it after about a month
of hard trial. Not even close to Office 97, more like Office 95, including
the crashing.


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Amnon Feiner asked:

| -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
| Hash: SHA1
|
| Better, way better then Mess-Office. It does everything mess-office
| does, forfree.
| http://openoffice.org
|
| - --
| TIA
| Amnon Feiner
| http://www.woodcontour.com
| Solid Wood and Stone PC Peripherals
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M

Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Sorry - incorrect information being posted here. No Outlook application,
included with all versions of Office to date. Access application woefully
lacking customizability (is that even a word?), etc.

Nice try. I downloaded the latest, tried it, removed it after about a month
of hard trial. Not even close to Office 97, more like Office 95, including
the crashing.


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Amnon Feiner asked:

| -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
| Hash: SHA1
|
| Better, way better then Mess-Office. It does everything mess-office
| does, forfree.
| http://openoffice.org
|
| - --
| TIA
| Amnon Feiner
| http://www.woodcontour.com
| Solid Wood and Stone PC Peripherals
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| =8pZk
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M

Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Sorry - incorrect information being posted here. No Outlook application,
included with all versions of Office to date. Access application woefully
lacking customizability (is that even a word?), etc.

Nice try. I downloaded the latest, tried it, removed it after about a month
of hard trial. Not even close to Office 97, more like Office 95, including
the crashing.


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Amnon Feiner asked:

| -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
| Hash: SHA1
|
| Better, way better then Mess-Office. It does everything mess-office
| does, forfree.
| http://openoffice.org
|
| - --
| TIA
| Amnon Feiner
| http://www.woodcontour.com
| Solid Wood and Stone PC Peripherals
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M

Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Sorry - incorrect information being posted here. No Outlook application,
included with all versions of Office to date. Access application woefully
lacking customizability (is that even a word?), etc.

Nice try. I downloaded the latest, tried it, removed it after about a month
of hard trial. Not even close to Office 97, more like Office 95, including
the crashing.


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Amnon Feiner asked:

| -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
| Hash: SHA1
|
| Better, way better then Mess-Office. It does everything mess-office
| does, forfree.
| http://openoffice.org
|
| - --
| TIA
| Amnon Feiner
| http://www.woodcontour.com
| Solid Wood and Stone PC Peripherals
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M

Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Sorry - incorrect information being posted here. No Outlook application,
included with all versions of Office to date. Access application woefully
lacking customizability (is that even a word?), etc.

Nice try. I downloaded the latest, tried it, removed it after about a month
of hard trial. Not even close to Office 97, more like Office 95, including
the crashing.


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Amnon Feiner asked:

| -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
| Hash: SHA1
|
| Better, way better then Mess-Office. It does everything mess-office
| does, forfree.
| http://openoffice.org
|
| - --
| TIA
| Amnon Feiner
| http://www.woodcontour.com
| Solid Wood and Stone PC Peripherals
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| Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux)
|
| iD8DBQFEHxXayge7SuO2xUwRAm6XAKCIBnDnfPgAtFClEfL/di0llLZqVACfX9Nx
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M

Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Sorry - incorrect information being posted here. No Outlook application,
included with all versions of Office to date. Access application woefully
lacking customizability (is that even a word?), etc.

Nice try. I downloaded the latest, tried it, removed it after about a month
of hard trial. Not even close to Office 97, more like Office 95, including
the crashing.


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Amnon Feiner asked:

| -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
| Hash: SHA1
|
| Better, way better then Mess-Office. It does everything mess-office
| does, forfree.
| http://openoffice.org
|
| - --
| TIA
| Amnon Feiner
| http://www.woodcontour.com
| Solid Wood and Stone PC Peripherals
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| Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux)
|
| iD8DBQFEHxXayge7SuO2xUwRAm6XAKCIBnDnfPgAtFClEfL/di0llLZqVACfX9Nx
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A

Amnon Feiner

Silly said:
Sorry - incorrect information being posted here.  No Outlook application,
included with all versions of Office to date.  Access application woefully
lacking customizability (is that even a word?), etc.
Are you sue you are an MVP?
Outlook is a Microsoft registered bla bla
So is access, in Openoffice it is called Base.
As fro the rest, but looking at the rest of you answers I know you simply
never downloaded. And if it crashed, was it by any chance on Microsoft
CrashP (XP)?
 
A

Amnon Feiner

Silly said:
Sorry - incorrect information being posted here.  No Outlook application,
included with all versions of Office to date.  Access application woefully
lacking customizability (is that even a word?), etc.
Are you sue you are an MVP?
Outlook is a Microsoft registered bla bla
So is access, in Openoffice it is called Base.
As fro the rest, but looking at the rest of you answers I know you simply
never downloaded. And if it crashed, was it by any chance on Microsoft
CrashP (XP)?
 
A

Amnon Feiner

Silly said:
Sorry - incorrect information being posted here.  No Outlook application,
included with all versions of Office to date.  Access application woefully
lacking customizability (is that even a word?), etc.
Are you sue you are an MVP?
Outlook is a Microsoft registered bla bla
So is access, in Openoffice it is called Base.
As fro the rest, but looking at the rest of you answers I know you simply
never downloaded. And if it crashed, was it by any chance on Microsoft
CrashP (XP)?
 
A

Amnon Feiner

Silly said:
Sorry - incorrect information being posted here.  No Outlook application,
included with all versions of Office to date.  Access application woefully
lacking customizability (is that even a word?), etc.
Are you sue you are an MVP?
Outlook is a Microsoft registered bla bla
So is access, in Openoffice it is called Base.
As fro the rest, but looking at the rest of you answers I know you simply
never downloaded. And if it crashed, was it by any chance on Microsoft
CrashP (XP)?
 
A

Amnon Feiner

Silly said:
Sorry - incorrect information being posted here.  No Outlook application,
included with all versions of Office to date.  Access application woefully
lacking customizability (is that even a word?), etc.
Are you sue you are an MVP?
Outlook is a Microsoft registered bla bla
So is access, in Openoffice it is called Base.
As fro the rest, but looking at the rest of you answers I know you simply
never downloaded. And if it crashed, was it by any chance on Microsoft
CrashP (XP)?
 
A

Amnon Feiner

Silly said:
Sorry - incorrect information being posted here.  No Outlook application,
included with all versions of Office to date.  Access application woefully
lacking customizability (is that even a word?), etc.
Are you sue you are an MVP?
Outlook is a Microsoft registered bla bla
So is access, in Openoffice it is called Base.
As fro the rest, but looking at the rest of you answers I know you simply
never downloaded. And if it crashed, was it by any chance on Microsoft
CrashP (XP)?
 
A

Amnon Feiner

Silly said:
Sorry - incorrect information being posted here.  No Outlook application,
included with all versions of Office to date.  Access application woefully
lacking customizability (is that even a word?), etc.
Are you sue you are an MVP?
Outlook is a Microsoft registered bla bla
So is access, in Openoffice it is called Base.
As fro the rest, but looking at the rest of you answers I know you simply
never downloaded. And if it crashed, was it by any chance on Microsoft
CrashP (XP)?
 
A

Amnon Feiner

Silly said:
Sorry - incorrect information being posted here.  No Outlook application,
included with all versions of Office to date.  Access application woefully
lacking customizability (is that even a word?), etc.
Are you sue you are an MVP?
Outlook is a Microsoft registered bla bla
So is access, in Openoffice it is called Base.
As fro the rest, but looking at the rest of you answers I know you simply
never downloaded. And if it crashed, was it by any chance on Microsoft
CrashP (XP)?
 
G

Gerry Hickman

Hi Milly,
Sorry - incorrect information being posted here. No Outlook application,
included with all versions of Office to date. Access application woefully
lacking customizability (is that even a word?), etc.

Yes, but for many "home" users, they don't have Exchange (for full
Outlook) and can't afford Office Pro (to get Access) and there are
plenty free and open-source alternatives for "personal" email and databases.

However, in the corporate market it's a different story; lack of Outlook
and Access are probably the least of the worries. Staff training,
support, compatibility, group policy and hands-free custom deployments
will probably be the big deciding factors. The "fear" factor is also a
big problem; if corporation A runs Microsoft Office and everything works
perfectly, and corporation B runs OpenOffice and can't get Document X to
open, they are going to look pretty stupid and no one from OpenOffice is
going to care.

However, as I see it; Open Source is the future, OpenOffice is on the up
and Microsoft Office is in decline. Once you grab OpenXchange

http://www.open-xchange.org/

or look at open-source LDAP and iMAP, the corporate jigsaw starts to
fall into place. The recent bungled migrations with .NET 1.1 to .NET 2.0
and mismatched compatibilities of Office servers in Office 2007 and
SharePoint servers x 3, the whole Microsoft strategy becomes a corporate
liability instead of an asset.

Thing is, Microsoft is about fashions and fads and "that was last year's
model", but the open-source community think carefully about how their
products will fit into the bigger picture of open standards and
long-term goals. That's why UNIX/Linux web technologies are so
successful; you build it once and it runs for years; you hardly ever
have to reboot, but with Microsoft, you have to upgrade every five
minutes and every patch you apply requires a reboot - even for a
production server.
 
G

Gerry Hickman

Hi Milly,
Sorry - incorrect information being posted here. No Outlook application,
included with all versions of Office to date. Access application woefully
lacking customizability (is that even a word?), etc.

Yes, but for many "home" users, they don't have Exchange (for full
Outlook) and can't afford Office Pro (to get Access) and there are
plenty free and open-source alternatives for "personal" email and databases.

However, in the corporate market it's a different story; lack of Outlook
and Access are probably the least of the worries. Staff training,
support, compatibility, group policy and hands-free custom deployments
will probably be the big deciding factors. The "fear" factor is also a
big problem; if corporation A runs Microsoft Office and everything works
perfectly, and corporation B runs OpenOffice and can't get Document X to
open, they are going to look pretty stupid and no one from OpenOffice is
going to care.

However, as I see it; Open Source is the future, OpenOffice is on the up
and Microsoft Office is in decline. Once you grab OpenXchange

http://www.open-xchange.org/

or look at open-source LDAP and iMAP, the corporate jigsaw starts to
fall into place. The recent bungled migrations with .NET 1.1 to .NET 2.0
and mismatched compatibilities of Office servers in Office 2007 and
SharePoint servers x 3, the whole Microsoft strategy becomes a corporate
liability instead of an asset.

Thing is, Microsoft is about fashions and fads and "that was last year's
model", but the open-source community think carefully about how their
products will fit into the bigger picture of open standards and
long-term goals. That's why UNIX/Linux web technologies are so
successful; you build it once and it runs for years; you hardly ever
have to reboot, but with Microsoft, you have to upgrade every five
minutes and every patch you apply requires a reboot - even for a
production server.
 
G

Gerry Hickman

Hi Milly,
Sorry - incorrect information being posted here. No Outlook application,
included with all versions of Office to date. Access application woefully
lacking customizability (is that even a word?), etc.

Yes, but for many "home" users, they don't have Exchange (for full
Outlook) and can't afford Office Pro (to get Access) and there are
plenty free and open-source alternatives for "personal" email and databases.

However, in the corporate market it's a different story; lack of Outlook
and Access are probably the least of the worries. Staff training,
support, compatibility, group policy and hands-free custom deployments
will probably be the big deciding factors. The "fear" factor is also a
big problem; if corporation A runs Microsoft Office and everything works
perfectly, and corporation B runs OpenOffice and can't get Document X to
open, they are going to look pretty stupid and no one from OpenOffice is
going to care.

However, as I see it; Open Source is the future, OpenOffice is on the up
and Microsoft Office is in decline. Once you grab OpenXchange

http://www.open-xchange.org/

or look at open-source LDAP and iMAP, the corporate jigsaw starts to
fall into place. The recent bungled migrations with .NET 1.1 to .NET 2.0
and mismatched compatibilities of Office servers in Office 2007 and
SharePoint servers x 3, the whole Microsoft strategy becomes a corporate
liability instead of an asset.

Thing is, Microsoft is about fashions and fads and "that was last year's
model", but the open-source community think carefully about how their
products will fit into the bigger picture of open standards and
long-term goals. That's why UNIX/Linux web technologies are so
successful; you build it once and it runs for years; you hardly ever
have to reboot, but with Microsoft, you have to upgrade every five
minutes and every patch you apply requires a reboot - even for a
production server.
 
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