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Per I. Arvidsson

Hi,
Since a coupe of days I experience a severe problem with my Entourage (v.
10.1.4) for OSX (v. 10.2.6) (All English versions). My outgoing emails gets
truncated after approx. 9 lines (or shorter with HTML fonts). Initially,
attaching documents worked but now they also get lost during sending. I have
tried to through out old mails and rebuild the database using both standard
and advanced rebuild; however, without success. My database is approx.
275Mb. I believe the problem first appeared after installing the Office
upgrades 10.1.4 and 10.1.5. I now also encounter crashes of Word and
Explorer more often than before. Have anyone experienced a similar problem
or knows if there is a virus attacking Office for OSX?

I¹m very glad for all comments!

Per
 
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Dave Cortright

Hi,
Since a coupe of days I experience a severe problem with my Entourage (v.
10.1.4) for OSX (v. 10.2.6) (All English versions). My outgoing emails gets
truncated after approx. 9 lines (or shorter with HTML fonts). Initially,
attaching documents worked but now they also get lost during sending. I have
tried to through out old mails and rebuild the database using both standard
and advanced rebuild; however, without success. My database is approx.
275Mb. I believe the problem first appeared after installing the Office
upgrades 10.1.4 and 10.1.5. I now also encounter crashes of Word and
Explorer more often than before. Have anyone experienced a similar problem
or knows if there is a virus attacking Office for OSX?

I¹m very glad for all comments!

This message got through OK. Go into your Sent Items and select a message
that was truncated and View:Source. Is it truncated there? If there isn't a
privacy issue, paste the source of the message into a reply to this post.

Also, try sending with a different SMTP server if you have access to one. It
might be a server issue.
 
P

Per I. Arvidsson

This message got through OK. Go into your Sent Items and select a message
that was truncated and View:Source. Is it truncated there? If there isn't a
privacy issue, paste the source of the message into a reply to this post.

Also, try sending with a different SMTP server if you have access to one. It
might be a server issue.

Hi again - and thanks for your concern!
I know that some mail goes through without problems (usually the first ones
I send in the day). In my sent mailbox everything looks ok. It even looks
like I got the attachments sent. However, since this started I always CC
myself to see if the mails gets through ok. Anyway, I am attaching the first
part of the source of a mail I sent (not the attachment part) and after that
I supply the CC return. Some things suggest that it is not just a server
issue. Again, quite often when I do a reply I do not get the whole message
with (even though this is my default setting). If I do the same a couple of
times it eventually gets the whole message. Again I believe this started
after patching Office from 10.1.3.

Sent message:


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Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 11:51:31 +0200
Subject: Re: antibacterial&haemolytic activities of betaoligoArgs
From: "Per I. Arvidsson" <[email protected]>
To: Kenji Namoto <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <BB95E447.295F%[email protected]>
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Hi Kenji,

Good to hear that you still do work on the poly-Arg molecules. It is a
fascinating topic. I was just doing a literature search on this topic (not
b-peptides though) when your mail arrived =AD a strange coincidence!

I have paper copies of all the reports by Dr. Weiss (Hemolysis) and Dr.
Ryder (Antibacterial). These reports I got by normal mail from Prof.
Seebach. I have two electronic versions on my computer which I am attaching=
..
None of these contains the data of the poly-Arg molecule. These data are
reported in the reported dated 15-Jan-2003 (hemolysis) and in an e-mail fro=
m
Dr. Ryder to Prof. Seebach dated 23-Aug-2002 (antibact).

All Novartis experiments seem to be performed in the same way, so hopefully
you will find one electronic file for each type of investigation. If not,
let me know and I will fax you my paper copies.

If you find electronic versions with the experimental data, please also
forward these to me since I need them for the experimental section of the
=B3full=B2 antibacterial paper we are preparing.

Good luck!

Per
/Please give my best greeting to Prof. Seebach and the others I still might
know in the group!


Dear Prof. Dr. Arvidsson,
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My name is Kenji Namoto, a postdoc with the group of Prof. Dr. Seebach at= ETH.
We are now in preparation of a manuscript on our recent chemical and
biological investigations about beta-oligoarginines for the upcoming firs= t
issue of a new journal Chemistry&Biodiversity, and hence decided to inclu= de
the results from the antibacterial and haemolytic assays on
beta-oligoarginines. Your recent table summarizing the assay results is
already at our hand, but we would be very grateful if you have further
information to forward to us regarding the assay, such as specific assay
conditions and references (we are also trying to contact Dr. Weiss at
Novartis). Thank you in advance for your kind attention and time to hel= p us.
=20
Yours sincerely,
Kenji Namoto
The Seebach Group
Laboratorium fuer Organische Chemie
ETH-Hoenggerberg
=20
=20
=20
=20


--=20
Dr. Per I. Arvidsson
Assistant Professor of Chemistry
Department of Organic Chemistry
Institute of Chemistry
Husargatan 3 (Visiting)
Box 599, BMC B7:412b (Postal)
SE-751 24 Uppsala, Sweden
phone: +46-(0)18-471 3787
fax: +46-(0)18-4713818
e-mail: [email protected]
http://www.org.kemi.uu.se/Research/Pia/Piahem.htm
*****************************
Private:
Gammelekev=E4gen 73 =20
SE-74082 =D6rsundsbro
Sweden
phone: +46-(0)171-460975
mobile:+46-70-373 1483



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<FONT FACE=3D"Verdana"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0px'>Hi Kenji,<BR>
<BR>
Good to hear that you still do work on the poly-Arg molecules. It is a fasc=
inating topic. I was just doing a literature search on this topic (not
b-pep=
tides though) when your mail arrived – a strange coincidence! <BR>
<BR>
I have paper copies of all the reports by Dr. Weiss (Hemolysis) and Dr. Ryd=
er (Antibacterial). These reports I got by normal mail from Prof. Seebach.
I=
have two electronic versions on my computer which I am attaching. None of
t=
hese contains the data of the poly-Arg molecule. These data are reported in
=
the reported dated 15-Jan-2003 (hemolysis) and in an e-mail from Dr. Ryder
t=
o Prof. Seebach dated 23-Aug-2002 (antibact).<BR>
<BR>
All Novartis experiments seem to be performed in the same way, so hopefully=
you will find one electronic file for each type of investigation. If not,
l=
et me know and I will fax you my paper copies.<BR>
<BR>
If you find electronic versions with the experimental data, please also for=
ward these to me since I need them for the experimental section of the
&#822=
0;full” antibacterial paper we are preparing.<BR>
<BR>
Good luck!<BR>
<BR>
Per<BR>
/Please give my best greeting to Prof. Seebach and the others I still might=
know in the group!<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
&nbsp;On 03-09-23 10.42, &quot;Kenji Namoto&quot; &lt;[email protected].=
ch&gt; wrote:<BR>
<BR>
Dear Prof. Dr. Arvidsson,<BR>
</FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana"> <BR>
</FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">My name is Kenji Namoto, a postdoc with the
group=
of Prof. Dr. Seebach at ETH. &nbsp;We are now in preparation of a
manuscrip=
t on our recent chemical and biological investigations about
beta-oligoargin=
ines for the upcoming first issue of a new journal
Chemistry&amp;Biodiversit=
y, and hence decided to include the results from the antibacterial and
haemo=
lytic assays on beta-oligoarginines. &nbsp;&nbsp;Your recent table
summarizi=
ng the assay results is already at our hand, but we would be very grateful
i=
f you have further information to forward to us regarding the assay, such
as=
specific assay conditions and references (we are also trying to contact
Dr.=
Weiss at Novartis). &nbsp;&nbsp;Thank you in advance for your kind
attentio=
n and time to help us. &nbsp;<BR>
</FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana"> <BR>
</FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">Yours sincerely,<BR>
Kenji Namoto<BR>
The Seebach Group<BR>
Laboratorium fuer Organische Chemie<BR>
ETH-Hoenggerberg<BR>
</FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana"> <BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
<BR>
</FONT></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0px'><FONT
FACE=3D"Verda=
na"><BR>
<BR>
</FONT><FONT FACE=3D"New York">-- <BR>
Dr. Per I. Arvidsson<BR>
Assistant Professor of Chemistry<BR>
Department of Organic Chemistry<BR>
Institute of Chemistry<BR>
Husargatan 3 (Visiting)<BR>
Box 599, BMC B7:412b (Postal)<BR>
SE-751 24 &nbsp;Uppsala, Sweden<BR>
phone: +46-(0)18-471 3787<BR>
fax: +46-(0)18-4713818<BR>
e-mail: [email protected] <BR>
<a
href=3D"http://www.org.kemi.uu.se/Research/Pia/Piahem.htm">http://www.org.=
kemi.uu.se/Research/Pia/Piahem.htm</a><BR>
*****************************<BR>
Private:<BR>
Gammelekev&auml;gen 73 &nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
SE-74082 &Ouml;rsundsbro &nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
Sweden<BR>
phone: +46-(0)171-460975<BR>
mobile:+46-70-373 1483<BR>
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Hi Kenji,

Good to hear that you still do work on the poly-Arg molecules. It is a
fascinating topic. I was just doing a literature search on this topic (not
b-peptides though) when your mail arrived =AD a strange coincidence!

I have paper copies of all the reports by Dr. Weiss (Hemolysis) and Dr.
Ryder (Antibacterial). These reports I got by normal mail from Prof.
Seebach. I have two electronic versions on my computer which I am attaching=
 
D

Dave Cortright

Hi again - and thanks for your concern!
I know that some mail goes through without problems (usually the first ones
I send in the day). In my sent mailbox everything looks ok. It even looks
like I got the attachments sent. However, since this started I always CC
myself to see if the mails gets through ok. Anyway, I am attaching the first
part of the source of a mail I sent (not the attachment part) and after that
I supply the CC return. Some things suggest that it is not just a server
issue. Again, quite often when I do a reply I do not get the whole message
with (even though this is my default setting). If I do the same a couple of
times it eventually gets the whole message. Again I believe this started
after patching Office from 10.1.3.

Some things to note on quoted text. If there is any text selected in the
original message, that is all that will appear in the reply. Also, if
Entourage detects a signature separator, two hyphens followed by a space and
a return, it will strip everything below the signature.

I didn't see anything wrong with the message snippet you posted, so
hopefully the paragraph above solves the mystery for you.
 
J

Jeremy E Cath

Per I. Arvidsson said:
Hi,
Since a coupe of days I experience a severe problem with my Entourage (v.
10.1.4) for OSX (v. 10.2.6) (All English versions). My outgoing emails gets
truncated after approx. 9 lines (or shorter with HTML fonts). Initially,
attaching documents worked but now they also get lost during sending. I have
tried to through out old mails and rebuild the database using both standard
and advanced rebuild; however, without success. My database is approx.
275Mb. I believe the problem first appeared after installing the Office
upgrades 10.1.4 and 10.1.5. I now also encounter crashes of Word and
Explorer more often than before. Have anyone experienced a similar problem
or knows if there is a virus attacking Office for OSX?

I¹m very glad for all comments!

Per

I've had similar happen here following the latest update. It happens
especially when replying to emails that are HTML format and have been a
to-and-fro conversation... only the latest part that I'm replying to gets
included.
One workaround I've found is to have the mail I want to reply to in the
preview window and select all the text and hit reply. Don't ask me why, but
it works !
Can't make it happen predictably so have not been able to report a bug
 
P

Per I. Arvidsson

Some things to note on quoted text. If there is any text selected in the
original message, that is all that will appear in the reply. Also, if
Entourage detects a signature separator, two hyphens followed by a space and
a return, it will strip everything below the signature.

I didn't see anything wrong with the message snippet you posted, so
hopefully the paragraph above solves the mystery for you.

Hi again,

I do not see how the paragraph above would solve any problems? In none of
the emails I sent there were a signature separator at the place of the cut!
Likewise it does not explain why the attachments do not get sent. There must
be something severely strange with Entourage 10.1.4. I will consider to
re-install an older version of the program.
Before I do so however, do you think it could help to modify the advanced
settings under sending mail SMTP?? (E.g. to use SSL?)
 
J

Jeremy E Cath

Dave Cortright said:
Some things to note on quoted text. If there is any text selected in the
original message, that is all that will appear in the reply. Also, if
Entourage detects a signature separator, two hyphens followed by a space and
a return, it will strip everything below the signature.

I didn't see anything wrong with the message snippet you posted, so
hopefully the paragraph above solves the mystery for you.

Thanks Dave - I didn't know about the sig seperator... learn something every
day !
 
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