Using two different smtp servers

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Paul Muhlrad

I use a single email account from home and work, but use different smtp
servers to send mail from the account (at home I use my ISP's server; at
work I use a campus server). Up till now this has worked fine, because I
have the appropriate settings on different computers. Now I'm trying to set
up my Powerbook to use at home and work. Receiving email at both locations
is no problem (I can use the same incoming mail server), sending mail is a
problem. I can't use my personal ISP smtp server from the campus network.
Is there an easy way to put both smtp server settings in Entourage and
easily toggle between them when I'm at work (without setting up a whole new
Entourage account; I leave messages on the POP server, and don't want to
download duplicates of each message when I log on through the different
settings). I hope I'm making my question clear. Thanks.

Paul
 
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Dave Cortright

I use a single email account from home and work, but use different smtp
servers to send mail from the account (at home I use my ISP's server; at
work I use a campus server). Up till now this has worked fine, because I
have the appropriate settings on different computers. Now I'm trying to set
up my Powerbook to use at home and work. Receiving email at both locations
is no problem (I can use the same incoming mail server), sending mail is a
problem. I can't use my personal ISP smtp server from the campus network.
Is there an easy way to put both smtp server settings in Entourage and
easily toggle between them when I'm at work (without setting up a whole new
Entourage account; I leave messages on the POP server, and don't want to
download duplicates of each message when I log on through the different
settings). I hope I'm making my question clear. Thanks.

Paul
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Check out Paul B.'s script SMTP Location:
http://files.macscripter.net/scriptbuilders/Entourage/smtplocationx_220.sit
 
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Gnarlodious

Entity Paul Muhlrad spoke thus:
I use a single email account from home and work, but use different smtp
servers to send mail from the account (at home I use my ISP's server; at
work I use a campus server). Up till now this has worked fine, because I
have the appropriate settings on different computers. Now I'm trying to set
up my Powerbook to use at home and work. Receiving email at both locations
is no problem (I can use the same incoming mail server), sending mail is a
problem. I can't use my personal ISP smtp server from the campus network.
Is there an easy way to put both smtp server settings in Entourage and
easily toggle between them when I'm at work (without setting up a whole new
Entourage account; I leave messages on the POP server, and don't want to
download duplicates of each message when I log on through the different
settings). I hope I'm making my question clear. Thanks.
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My solution is more convenient than the script, send mail as "smtpauth".
If either of your email accounts allows smtpauth sending you can probably
send from any ISP you are connected to. For example, I send to
smtpauth.earthlink.net and can send from any access point I'm using, be it
RCN, Cybermesa, ATT, Qwest, Comcast or Earthlink.

Come to think of it, I have never encountered an ISP that won't accept
smtpauth although Earthlink insists they're out there.

-- Gnarlie
Currently broadcasting from http://68.165.192.233
 
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Barry Wainwright

I use a single email account from home and work, but use different smtp
servers to send mail from the account (at home I use my ISP's server; at
work I use a campus server). Up till now this has worked fine, because I
have the appropriate settings on different computers. Now I'm trying to set
up my Powerbook to use at home and work. Receiving email at both locations
is no problem (I can use the same incoming mail server), sending mail is a
problem. I can't use my personal ISP smtp server from the campus network.
Is there an easy way to put both smtp server settings in Entourage and
easily toggle between them when I'm at work (without setting up a whole new
Entourage account; I leave messages on the POP server, and don't want to
download duplicates of each message when I log on through the different
settings). I hope I'm making my question clear. Thanks.

Paul
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As another alternative, if you are using OS 10.3, download 'postfix enabler'
from versiontracker and with a single click of the mouse you can set up your
own SMTP server on your powerbook (Postfix is a very powerful mail server
that comes ready installed, but no activated in OS 10.3.x)

Then, all you need to do is to set the address of the smtp server in any of
your accounts to 127.0.0.1 (which automatically points to your own machine).
From now on, postfix will automatically handle the delivery of all you mail
for all your accounts.
 
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Jeremy Reichman

Does your campus support authenticated SMTP? If so, have you tried using
your campus' SMTP server as an outgoing server for both accounts?

On my campus, we currently allow all mail through our authenticated SMTP
server gateway, even if it's mail for an ISP account. ISPs in the area don't
do this. (In fact, one blocks all outgoing mail traffic that doesn't go
through their own SMTP server, so that blocks access to our campus SMTP
server, too ... and that sort of thing would block Postfix on your computer,
as well.)

If you can use your campus' gateway from both locations and all of your
accounts, I would do that.

Another alternative is to write a short AppleScript to change your SMTP
server settings back and forth. Something like:

tell application "Microsoft Entourage" to set the SMTP server of every
account to "smtp.my-current-isp.com"

Having two such scripts would basically let you toggle back and forth.
Depending on your SMTP setups, you may need to do a little more work to get
each server configured correctly from the script.
 
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ET

Barry Wainwright said:
As another alternative, if you are using OS 10.3, download 'postfix enabler'
from versiontracker and with a single click of the mouse you can set up your
own SMTP server on your powerbook (Postfix is a very powerful mail server
that comes ready installed, but no activated in OS 10.3.x)
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Unless you need to send to AOL, or anyone else who rejects SMTP
servers running on dynamic address ranges. I used the postfix
solution for a while, but it's annoying to figure out which addresses
will reject your mail.

I would use the mac.com authenticated/secure-password SMTP server.
But Entourage is broken --- it can't negotiate the secure password or
TLS session, and gives an error. The Mail.app works fine, but I want
integrated mail/calendar/todo. So I'm forced (for now) to send via an
SSH tunnel to my college SMTP server.
 
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Barry Wainwright

I would use the mac.com authenticated/secure-password SMTP server.
But Entourage is broken --- it can't negotiate the secure password or
TLS session, and gives an error. The Mail.app works fine, but I want
integrated mail/calendar/todo. So I'm forced (for now) to send via an
SSH tunnel to my college SMTP server.
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I've been using smtp.mac.com with authentication in entourage for a couple
of years!
 
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Paul Berkowitz

I've been using smtp.mac.com with authentication in entourage for a couple
of years!
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Likewise.

--
Paul Berkowitz
MVP Entourage
Entourage FAQ Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/toc.html>
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Jules Galagarza

Make that 3.
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Actually, when using SSL with SMTP is where you would get in trouble. For
some reason Entourage 2004 can not connect securely when using this method.
An error is returned stating "...server may be down...". Entourage X had no
issues with SSL connections to SMTP servers.
The mac.com accounts do not use SSL. You just need to authenticate with a
user id and password.
 
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