Y Can't PowerPoint Run Macros Independently of a Particular PPT Show?

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Hugh Jass

My main beef with MS is that they still lack a macro system that works
across the operating system or across the Office Suites.

With great hapiness and joy, I utilize MacroMagic to accomplish this
task WHEREVER I am within windows. IT can memorize keypresses, mouse
movents, or both - and be client-window aware.

To attach one macro from one presentation to another within PowerPoint
is a pain in the *ss.... Just check out the explanation of "How to Do
It" through the PPT Help System

MY WISH LIST FOR Micro$haft and its Office suites:
Create a cross-application macro program that is NOT based on cludgy
Visual Basic... and is FAST!

And I don't want to fork out $$ to purchase this "Add-In" and that
"Add-In". Microsoft can't seem to, as a great line from "Top Gun"
said, "...do it right..."

BASIC died years ago, but MS wants to keep it alive, by just making it
a compiled language rather than interpreted....

"They Shoot Horses, Don't They"?
 
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Austin Myers

I would suggest you find a different Office Suite as you don't want to pay
for anything. Have you looked at Open Office?

Austin Myers
MS PowerPoint MVP Team

PowerPoint Video and PowerPoint Sound Solutions www.pfcmedia.com
 
H

Howard Kaikow

Hugh Jass said:
My main beef with MS is that they still lack a macro system that works
across the operating system or across the Office Suites.
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u'll likely get your wish when office id fully .net-ized
 
H

Hugh Jass

I would suggest you find a different Office Suite as you don't want to pay
for anything. Have you looked at Open Office?

Austin Myers
MS PowerPoint MVP Team

PowerPoint Video and PowerPoint Sound Solutions www.pfcmedia.com
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Why, that was a CUTTING reply! Do you have THAT MUCH allegiance to
Microsoft ?!?

I DID pay for the suite.

Why did I fork over $900 for an Office Suite that is neither (1) sweet
nor (2) office-efficient ?!?

It just so happens that I am an extremely dedicated WordPerfect
devotee, and Corel doesn't have the aforementioned macro capabilities
either.

You Miscrosoft MVP's kill me...

And still no one has a plausible explanation for the PPT macro
question...

Maybe the Justice Department did do something right by opting for Corel
products....
 
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Austin Myers

Dude, I don't care what you use or if you use anything at all. You said you
wanted something that was free and I gave you a suggestion. Now either take
it or don't, makes absolutely no difference to me in anyway. I am not the
one with a problem or asking for help. I am just like you, a user. I do
not work for MS, I get no monetary award for trying to help other users, I
simply do it because I enjoy helping others when they ask. You asked - I
tried. If you choose to accept my help fine, if not that too is fine as I
have a rather full plate. It really makes not one tiny bit of difference to
me. If in your world people offering their time and effort to help "kills
you", then I'd say CYA! I sure wouldn't want my offer of help to kill
anyone.

Now, as you have again asked so nicely, I will tell you that indeed you can
write cross application macros. The easist and fastest way to do so is
through COM add in. But as you said you wanted it for free it may not be an
option as you need to buy the development tools (Visual Studio or VB) to do
it. If that is too expensive, you can even write them in VBA and build them
as a generic add in and then add them to each application. The only
condition is that you must write code that is avaiable in all the apps for
it to work.

If you wish I will list the URL's to help you get started in building them.
All you need to do is ask nicely...

Austin Myers
MS PowerPoint MVP Team

PowerPoint Video and PowerPoint Sound Solutions www.pfcmedia.com
 
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Hugh Jass

Dude, I don't care what you use or if you use anything at all. You said you
wanted something that was free and I gave you a suggestion. Now either take
it or don't, makes absolutely no difference to me in anyway. I am not the
one with a problem or asking for help. I am just like you, a user. I do
not work for MS, I get no monetary award for trying to help other users, I
simply do it because I enjoy helping others when they ask. You asked - I
tried. If you choose to accept my help fine, if not that too is fine as I
have a rather full plate. It really makes not one tiny bit of difference to
me. If in your world people offering their time and effort to help "kills
you", then I'd say CYA! I sure wouldn't want my offer of help to kill
anyone.

Now, as you have again asked so nicely, I will tell you that indeed you can
write cross application macros. The easist and fastest way to do so is
through COM add in. But as you said you wanted it for free it may not be an
option as you need to buy the development tools (Visual Studio or VB) to do
it. If that is too expensive, you can even write them in VBA and build them
as a generic add in and then add them to each application. The only
condition is that you must write code that is avaiable in all the apps for
it to work.

If you wish I will list the URL's to help you get started in building them.
All you need to do is ask nicely...

Austin Myers
MS PowerPoint MVP Team

PowerPoint Video and PowerPoint Sound Solutions www.pfcmedia.com
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I offer this to save anyone money.... I have no inherent interest in
nor do I benefit in any way from it, but I do heartily endorse Iolo's
Macro Magic, version 4.1t. It will be among the best products you may
purchase out there, for only $40.

There's little or no code writing. You just do your keypresses and
mnouse movements, do a bit of keyboarding and you are done. You have
the option of doing the coding yourself, from scratch if you want, much
as you would do in any high-level language, including dialog boxes,
auto-complete, etc.

And unless there are substantive changes in keypresses or
mousemovements, you could port the macros from one version of
PowerPoint to another with little or no modification.

And most or all of you missed the point, namely, why didn't / doesn't
Microsoft have macro capabilities that cross its product suites or
operating system lines ?!?! If I'm laying out $$$ for a professional
office suite, I would at least expect macro capabilities, never mind
having PowerPoint 2003 walk my dog once and a while...
 
B

Bill Cloneton

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QUESTION: Why didn't / doesn't Microsoft have macro capabilities that
cross its product suites or operating system lines?
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And related to your reply...

VB/VBA is a "serious" programming language _to_ Microsoft. I know of
few, if any, programmers that are pursuing degrees who seek out taking
VB as their "bread and butter" programming language.

How important is VB/VBA on other platforms, such as Linux? (Or as Bill
Gates might say, the "L" word)

Am I just dreaming or does VB surpass C# as an important programming
tool?

Just curious...

And whatever happened to Microsoft "Bob" ?
 
B

Bill Dilworth

Seeing as this newsgroup is hosted by MS, but is trafficked almost
exclusively by users, -- I am sure that your question will not be answered
in this newsgroup. If you are truly seeking an answer and not just
trolling, you might want to ask MS directly, since only they can explain why
they do what they do.

You have stated that you need cross-platform macros and have found a
software solution. After the nice plug and commercial for the macro-ware it
would seem that your issue is resolved. I find it interesting that both you
(Bill C.) and Hugh choose to display the same ISP for your posts, but the
web is full of interesting coincidences.

As for VBA being a serious language, that would call for a personal opinion.
I've found that arguing opinions usually ends up with a lot of people
talking/yelling/claiming and no one listening. If you are entitled to hold
an opinion, than grant others the same right even if they differ from yours.
 
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Austin Myers

Hugh, you gotta learn to forge your header information better. <g>


Austin Myers
MS PowerPoint MVP Team

PowerPoint Video and PowerPoint Sound Solutions www.pfcmedia.com
 
H

Hugh Jass

Hugh, you gotta learn to forge your header information better. <g>


Austin Myers
MS PowerPoint MVP Team

PowerPoint Video and PowerPoint Sound Solutions www.pfcmedia.com
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There was/is NO attempt to cover up my various nyms; just "different
strokes for different folks"... Hugh Jass is a "Simpson's"
character....

I have always been on the net as
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Bill Cloneton, WhiteHouseNYC, (e-mail address removed)....

--"Ah did not have sex'l relayshuns with that woman....."
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And there is only one real forum for politics / religion.... and it is
NOT here...

I guess I discontinue with this thread. It seems pointless, b/c
Microsoft won't ever give me an answer either.

Just wondering if any of you had an inside track on Microsoft's
machinations. Apparenetly, you do not.

Thanks for your time, y'all........
 
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Mike M.

Steve Rindsberg said:
I'm not interested in religious wars, though. Sorry.

Try alt.vb.sucks.doesnot.doestoo.doesNOT.doesTOO.DOES.DOESNT.BLAMBLAMBLAM
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Might be a bit picky but the correct group name is:
alt.vb.sucks.doesnot.doestoo.doesNOT.doesTOO.DOES.DOESNT.BLAMBLAMBLAM.KABOOM
..PLONK! <sg>

Not about those worms...
 
K

Kathy Jacobs

When the worm turns, does it turnip?


Steve Rindsberg said:
Dang. When you're right, you're right. I used to be right a lot but it
happens less and less often. The worm turns ....

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Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
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