Removing fonts from WORD

[peter.mac]

I'd like to remove some fonts from my WORD menu. I've disabled them in
Font Book, trashed the Office font cache, and restarted the computer.
All 150+ fonts still appear in the WORD font menu. What am I missing?

Thanks

 

[Elliott Roper]

I'd like to remove some fonts from my WORD menu. I've disabled them in
Font Book, trashed the Office font cache, and restarted the computer.
All 150+ fonts still appear in the WORD font menu. What am I missing?

That is unexpected. Word respects my Font Book disabling on the next
time Word is restarted. I have never needed to fool about with its
cache to correct that. Nor reboot.

Could you report whether TextEdit, say, respects the Font Book Settings?

Are your fonts in ~/Library or /Library? If the latter, then what
happens when you run Word from another user account on the same
machine?

 

[peter.mac]

OK, checked it out and here is the scoop.

Word has 210 fonts
TextEdit has 187 fonts
Library on the HD has 111 fonts
Library in my user account has 177 fonts

I set up a new account on the machine and the Word in that account
appears to have 210 fonts.

Does this help?

Thanks,
Peter

 

[Elliott Roper]

OK, checked it out and here is the scoop.

Word has 210 fonts
TextEdit has 187 fonts
Library on the HD has 111 fonts
Library in my user account has 177 fonts

I set up a new account on the machine and the Word in that account
appears to have 210 fonts.

Does this help?

A little. You appear to have 288 fonts as well as the 32? fonts in
System/Library/Fonts/ that you don't mention, assuming that you have no
duplicates between /Library and ~/Library That looks like 320 in total

But wait! You created a new user and she sees 210 fonts without any
fonts at all in her ~/Library/Fonts?

None of that makes sense. You can't be counting apples.
Word's font menu is primitive. It lists every variation in a font
family as a separate font. My Garamond Premiere Pro gets 35 lines in
Word's font list. My Helvetica Neue takes another 51 lines. Thus 2
lines in Font Book is 86 in Word. Finder does list each of the OTF
variants as a separate file, but other font families stay in a single
file. So it ain't straightforward.

Try disabling everything that Font Book will let you disable,
restarting Word and then count the separate font families in Word's
Font menu list. How does that compare with what you see in Font Book or
by looking at the totals in Finder in each of the Font directories?

 

[peter.mac]

Went into Font Book and disabled everything that I was able to (all
except Geneva and Lucida Grande).

Restarted Word and the font menu is still around 210 fonts. The list
starts with Academy Engraved, goes to Zapfino, then GenevaCE to
AppleMyngjo.

List of fonts in both my top level and user level lists remains the
same as before.

 

[Elliott Roper]

Went into Font Book and disabled everything that I was able to (all
except Geneva and Lucida Grande).

OK. Just to be sure I wasn't talking rot, I did the same.
Got the same two fonts left.

Restarted Word and the font menu is still around 210 fonts. The list
starts with Academy Engraved, goes to Zapfino, then GenevaCE to
AppleMyngjo.

When I did that, Word had only the same two plus Central European for
each and Cyrillic for Lucida Grande. A total of 5.

I'm at a loss to advise further.
Wild Guess Time:
Networked system somewhere with fonts on it?
Old Classic System still on your machine, with fonts in System
Folder/Fonts/ ?

I did try, but I can't reproduce what you are seeing, and I don't have
a clue why.

Sorry, I have rather wasted your time.

 

[peter.mac]

Following up on your WAG, I disconnected from the network and tried
again. Still go the full list in Word after disabling in Font Book.

Went looking for other issues and found a font folder in the system
folder that contains 32 fonts. What are these for?

Also, it is possible that there are some system 9 files on this
machine since I used Apples migration tool to upgrade from one laptop
to another. Where would thes files now be hidden

 

[Elliott Roper]

Following up on your WAG, I disconnected from the network and tried
again. Still go the full list in Word after disabling in Font Book.

Went looking for other issues and found a font folder in the system
folder that contains 32 fonts. What are these for?

Fonts of last resort for the OS to use when it wants to write a suicide
note? You will discover they are almost impossible to delete without
extreme geekery. Don't even think of trying to.

Also, it is possible that there are some system 9 files on this
machine since I used Apples migration tool to upgrade from one laptop
to another. Where would thes files now be hidden

They'd be in /System Folder/Fonts Note the *Folder* !! Word will look
in there, but I think Font Book does too, so it probably won't help.

PS. If you do find out what is going wrong, please post back. I'm now
well intrigued. Word's font handling never ceases to amaze me.