A small rant about image use on sites.


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E. T. Culling

First, I really don't mean to embarrass anyone but we've seen a few examples
lately of web pages that show that the designers have little or no
understanding of how to prepare images for use on pages. One page I looked
at (from this newgroup) took forever to load and I found that even the
smallest photos were each over 100 kb each. They were lovely but 10kb would
probably have been enough. On another site I found photos that were 1600 x
1200 ... had not been cropped, color balance was terrible, people had
serious red-eye etc. Proper optimization is absolutely necessary for ALL
your images. So I must remind some of you that if you are going to add
images, especially photos, get yourself a good image editing program and
learn how to use it. You don't need the full version of Photoshop ...
Photoshop Elements 2 will be just fine, or Paint Shop Pro (version 9 is just
now shipping) or Ulead's PhotoImpact XL. Fireworks is not my first choice
for working with photos but it is for making lots of other images needed on
web pages ... banners, font gifs etc. I've used NetStudio for some banners
and nav buttons also.

Be sure that you do NOT use any of the image editing capabilities that are
there within FP!
I've written a few tutorials that you might want to read now. Start here:
http://www.eleanorstravels.com/usingphotos.htm
Here's an article about Paint Shop Pro Album which might work well for a
beginner:
http://www.eleanorstravels.com/PSPA/pspa.htm
Here's one comparing three different programs. It's a bit out of date but it
contains lots of basic information:
http://www.eleanorstravels.com/ComparingPrograms/comparingprograms.htm
Photo Galleries withing FP:
http://www.eleanorstravels.com/PhotoGalleryTutorial/galleries.htm
And because I don't really recommend this component, read this article:
http://www.eleanorstravels.com/PhotoGalleryPrograms/index.htm
Finally some other suggested resources, including the Top Ten Traps for
FrontPage Designers' link (by Jim Buyens):
http://www.eleanorstravels.com/suggestedresources.htm

Good luck with acquiring these much needed skills,
Eleanor
 
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E. T. Culling

Grouchy maybe ... very concerned, YES I am!
Eleanor
That's a great price for a fine product.

"Rob Giordano (aka: Crash Gordon®)" <[email protected]>
wrote in message uh oh ET's grouchy today :)

btw...Walmarts still has Photo Elements for under 60 bucks.


| First, I really don't mean to embarrass anyone but we've seen a few
examples
| lately of web pages that show that the designers have little or no
| understanding of how to prepare images for use on pages. One page I looked
| at (from this newgroup) took forever to load and I found that even the
| smallest photos were each over 100 kb each. They were lovely but 10kb
would
| probably have been enough. On another site I found photos that were 1600 x
| 1200 ... had not been cropped, color balance was terrible, people had
| serious red-eye etc. Proper optimization is absolutely necessary for ALL
| your images. So I must remind some of you that if you are going to add
| images, especially photos, get yourself a good image editing program and
| learn how to use it. You don't need the full version of Photoshop ...
| Photoshop Elements 2 will be just fine, or Paint Shop Pro (version 9 is
just
| now shipping) or Ulead's PhotoImpact XL. Fireworks is not my first choice
| for working with photos but it is for making lots of other images needed
on
| web pages ... banners, font gifs etc. I've used NetStudio for some banners
| and nav buttons also.
|
| Be sure that you do NOT use any of the image editing capabilities that are
| there within FP!
| I've written a few tutorials that you might want to read now. Start here:
| http://www.eleanorstravels.com/usingphotos.htm
| Here's an article about Paint Shop Pro Album which might work well for a
| beginner:
| http://www.eleanorstravels.com/PSPA/pspa.htm
| Here's one comparing three different programs. It's a bit out of date but
it
| contains lots of basic information:
| http://www.eleanorstravels.com/ComparingPrograms/comparingprograms.htm
| Photo Galleries withing FP:
| http://www.eleanorstravels.com/PhotoGalleryTutorial/galleries.htm
| And because I don't really recommend this component, read this article:
| http://www.eleanorstravels.com/PhotoGalleryPrograms/index.htm
| Finally some other suggested resources, including the Top Ten Traps for
| FrontPage Designers' link (by Jim Buyens):
| http://www.eleanorstravels.com/suggestedresources.htm
|
| Good luck with acquiring these much needed skills,
| Eleanor
|
|
|
 
B

Bob Lehmann

Purchasing anything from WalMart is reprehensible, IMHO.

Bob Lehmann

"Rob Giordano (aka: Crash Gordon®)" <[email protected]>
wrote in message uh oh ET's grouchy today :)

btw...Walmarts still has Photo Elements for under 60 bucks.


| First, I really don't mean to embarrass anyone but we've seen a few
examples
| lately of web pages that show that the designers have little or no
| understanding of how to prepare images for use on pages. One page I looked
| at (from this newgroup) took forever to load and I found that even the
| smallest photos were each over 100 kb each. They were lovely but 10kb
would
| probably have been enough. On another site I found photos that were 1600 x
| 1200 ... had not been cropped, color balance was terrible, people had
| serious red-eye etc. Proper optimization is absolutely necessary for ALL
| your images. So I must remind some of you that if you are going to add
| images, especially photos, get yourself a good image editing program and
| learn how to use it. You don't need the full version of Photoshop ...
| Photoshop Elements 2 will be just fine, or Paint Shop Pro (version 9 is
just
| now shipping) or Ulead's PhotoImpact XL. Fireworks is not my first choice
| for working with photos but it is for making lots of other images needed
on
| web pages ... banners, font gifs etc. I've used NetStudio for some banners
| and nav buttons also.
|
| Be sure that you do NOT use any of the image editing capabilities that are
| there within FP!
| I've written a few tutorials that you might want to read now. Start here:
| http://www.eleanorstravels.com/usingphotos.htm
| Here's an article about Paint Shop Pro Album which might work well for a
| beginner:
| http://www.eleanorstravels.com/PSPA/pspa.htm
| Here's one comparing three different programs. It's a bit out of date but
it
| contains lots of basic information:
| http://www.eleanorstravels.com/ComparingPrograms/comparingprograms.htm
| Photo Galleries withing FP:
| http://www.eleanorstravels.com/PhotoGalleryTutorial/galleries.htm
| And because I don't really recommend this component, read this article:
| http://www.eleanorstravels.com/PhotoGalleryPrograms/index.htm
| Finally some other suggested resources, including the Top Ten Traps for
| FrontPage Designers' link (by Jim Buyens):
| http://www.eleanorstravels.com/suggestedresources.htm
|
| Good luck with acquiring these much needed skills,
| Eleanor
|
|
|
 
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E. T. Culling

Well, I do agree with that, come to think of it! But Photoshop Elements II
IS a good program.
ETC
 
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Donna in Idaho \(remove invalid\)

Amazon has Photoshop Elements II right now with a $30 rebate - starting
price $89. If you're upgrading, Adobe has another $30 rebate - sure wish I
was upgrading!

--
Donna in Idaho
Project Linus Boise/SW Idaho Coordinator
Website: http://donnakwilts.tripod.com/

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Donna in Idaho \(remove invalid\)

Just looked at the Adobe rebate form - it lists several programs, including
PhotoDraw which I have, that it is considered an upgrade to! I think I'm
going to be ordering Photoshop right now!

--
Donna in Idaho
Project Linus Boise/SW Idaho Coordinator
Website: http://donnakwilts.tripod.com/

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Donna in Idaho \(remove invalid\)

Just in case you're looking for Adobe Photoshop Elements 2 and didn't read
my previous posts - you can get Adobe for $29 after rebates from both Adobe
& Amazon.

--
Donna in Idaho
Project Linus Boise/SW Idaho Coordinator
Website: http://donnakwilts.tripod.com/

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Donna in Idaho \(remove invalid\)

Here's what's listed: Adobe PhotoDeluxe, Photoshop Elements 1.0, Photoshop
LE, ArcSoft Photo Studio, Jasc Paint Shop Pro, Microsoft PhotoDraw, Picture
it! or Picture It! Digital Image pro, Roxio PhotoSuite, Ulead PhotoImpact.

I've already ordered mine! Also, in the CompUSA ad in today's paper they
have it for $39 after rebates.

--
Donna in Idaho
Project Linus Boise/SW Idaho Coordinator
Website: http://donnakwilts.tripod.com/

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"Rob Giordano (aka: Crash Gordon®)" <[email protected]>
wrote in message thats a smokin' deal. Does Photoshop 6 qualify for Upgrade (?) to PE II?

I liked the demo of PSE II better than Image Ready, but less than PS6...but
couldn't justify 60 bucks when I have so many editors now.

I also have 9 different screwdrivers in my tool box. Tools are a funny
thing!

message | Just in case you're looking for Adobe Photoshop Elements 2 and didn't read
| my previous posts - you can get Adobe for $29 after rebates from both
Adobe
| & Amazon.
|
| --
| Donna in Idaho
| Project Linus Boise/SW Idaho Coordinator
| Website: http://donnakwilts.tripod.com/
|
| Remove "invalid" to reply
|
|
| message | > Just looked at the Adobe rebate form - it lists several programs,
| > including PhotoDraw which I have, that it is considered an upgrade to!
I
| > think I'm going to be ordering Photoshop right now!
| >
| > --
| > Donna in Idaho
| > Project Linus Boise/SW Idaho Coordinator
| > Website: http://donnakwilts.tripod.com/
| >
| > Remove "invalid" to reply
| >
| >
| > | >> Well, I do agree with that, come to think of it! But Photoshop Elements
| >> II
| >> IS a good program.
| >> ETC
| >>
| >> | >>> Purchasing anything from WalMart is reprehensible, IMHO.
| >>>
| >>> Bob Lehmann
| >>>
| >>> "Rob Giordano (aka: Crash Gordon®)"
| >>> <[email protected]>
| >>> wrote in message | >>> uh oh ET's grouchy today :)
| >>>
| >>> btw...Walmarts still has Photo Elements for under 60 bucks.
| >>>
| >>>
| >>> | >>> | First, I really don't mean to embarrass anyone but we've seen a few
| >>> examples
| >>> | lately of web pages that show that the designers have little or no
| >>> | understanding of how to prepare images for use on pages. One page I
| >> looked
| >>> | at (from this newgroup) took forever to load and I found that even
the
| >>> | smallest photos were each over 100 kb each. They were lovely but
10kb
| >>> would
| >>> | probably have been enough. On another site I found photos that were
| >>> 1600
| >> x
| >>> | 1200 ... had not been cropped, color balance was terrible, people
had
| >>> | serious red-eye etc. Proper optimization is absolutely necessary for
| >>> ALL
| >>> | your images. So I must remind some of you that if you are going to
add
| >>> | images, especially photos, get yourself a good image editing program
| >>> and
| >>> | learn how to use it. You don't need the full version of Photoshop
....
| >>> | Photoshop Elements 2 will be just fine, or Paint Shop Pro (version 9
| >>> is
| >>> just
| >>> | now shipping) or Ulead's PhotoImpact XL. Fireworks is not my first
| >> choice
| >>> | for working with photos but it is for making lots of other images
| >>> needed
| >>> on
| >>> | web pages ... banners, font gifs etc. I've used NetStudio for some
| >> banners
| >>> | and nav buttons also.
| >>> |
| >>> | Be sure that you do NOT use any of the image editing capabilities
that
| >> are
| >>> | there within FP!
| >>> | I've written a few tutorials that you might want to read now. Start
| >> here:
| >>> | http://www.eleanorstravels.com/usingphotos.htm
| >>> | Here's an article about Paint Shop Pro Album which might work well
for
| >>> a
| >>> | beginner:
| >>> | http://www.eleanorstravels.com/PSPA/pspa.htm
| >>> | Here's one comparing three different programs. It's a bit out of
date
| >> but
| >>> it
| >>> | contains lots of basic information:
| >>> |
http://www.eleanorstravels.com/ComparingPrograms/comparingprograms.htm
| >>> | Photo Galleries withing FP:
| >>> | http://www.eleanorstravels.com/PhotoGalleryTutorial/galleries.htm
| >>> | And because I don't really recommend this component, read this
| >>> article:
| >>> | http://www.eleanorstravels.com/PhotoGalleryPrograms/index.htm
| >>> | Finally some other suggested resources, including the Top Ten Traps
| >>> for
| >>> | FrontPage Designers' link (by Jim Buyens):
| >>> | http://www.eleanorstravels.com/suggestedresources.htm
| >>> |
| >>> | Good luck with acquiring these much needed skills,
| >>> | Eleanor
| >>> |
| >>> |
| >>> |
| >>>
| >>>
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|
|
 

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