Advice for managing / formatting long document

[Corentin Cras-Méneur]

Hi Elliot,

<allgunsblazing>
That's no excuse for not snipping. Especially for not removing all the
brain-damaged html alternative text that some people's cats drag in.

I (personnally) couldn't agree more!!! I always do it. I have to admit
that I was well "trained" for that. In most Mac French newsgroups people
remind you that there is a nettiquette to respect if you don't. The rule
is:
- plain text (no html, etc... and try avoiding utf-8 too). Actually you
should use a fully GNKSA compliant newsreader.
- inline posting with snipping
- no attachement (ever)
- add tags to posts (eg: [OT] off topic, [Q] question, [ANN]
announcement, [TROLL] trolling, etc...)
- say hello, goodbye and thank you (even on the French Windows groups
they're pretty strict on this one).
- be polite.
- read the other posts before you ask your question (the answer is very
often already out there)
- read the ******* manual.
- don't you ever dare sending a post all in capitals.
- long signatures (more than 4 lines) are forbidden.

and probably a bunch of other rules that I forgot (but they post them
something like once a month).

Intelligent snippage efficiently reminds the reader of the point being
answered, especially when remarks are elegantly interspersed. Slapping
half a dozen answers to as many questions right at the end is little
improvement on top posting.
</allgunsblazing>

I couldn't agree more!!!!!!!!

Corentin

 

[JE McGimpsey]

[TROLL] trolling

<g>

 

[Corentin Cras-Méneur]

That's exactly what it looks like, sorted by date. Amazingly, this doesn't
bother me at all.

:-D I guess it's fine most of the time with threads that are not too
long as long as people properly quote the parts of the threads they are
answering to. It still makes it a little tedious when people post back
on very old threads you have forgotten everything about ;-))

Now that I am on OS X, I might investigate other programs, though I was so
happy to finally have combined everything....plus OS X got rid of the
painful slowness when I did occasionally need to sort by subject. I'll
add that to the list of pending computer-related improvements.

There are a bunch of software out ther. I use MacSoup most of the time,
but the interface is a little.... rustic :-\

MT-NewsWatcher is an old time favorite (and it's free) but it doesn't
have graphical representation of the threads and thread navigation...

Corentin

 

[Corentin Cras-Méneur]

[TROLL] trolling

<g>

Yeah, it comes up more often than you'd think... )

Corentin

 

[Phillip M. Jones, CE.T.]

Who wants to sift through 5 pages looking for the particular item that's
being responded to? It's mostly top-posters who don't trim quotes.

I'll bet the Mozillans don't like your excessive sig, either.

Actually they don't sya much about it.

Technical according to the line legth and characters used in the section
between the dotted lines. It just meets USENET Specifications.

The tag line which is speaks to my philosophy in Life. was added later.
and the mailto is in case you want to get in touch.

and the websites are site I either designed or Keep up, or both.

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[JE McGimpsey]

MT-NewsWatcher is an old time favorite (and it's free) but it doesn't
have graphical representation of the threads and thread navigation...

That's not *entirely* true, Corentin. Through indentation it does, if
one threads by reference.

It's not as pretty, certainly, but the information maps one to one.

 

[Corentin Cras-Méneur]

Geez! I didn't mean to get a runing Duel. I s just defending <grin> a
posters ability to to top post.

:-D
A duel??? I sure don't intend to get into a duel with Daiya ;-)) I
thought it was just a discussion )

Corentin

 

[Corentin Cras-Méneur]

That's not *entirely* true, Corentin. Through indentation it does, if
one threads by reference.

Sure, but that's not the same thing. Thunderbird does it as well. It's
still isn;t a full graphical representation you can navigate through.

It's not as pretty, certainly, but the information maps one to one.

Absolutely!! That's why I keep on recomending it (and MT-NW is GNKSA
compliant ) ).

Corentin

 

[Daiya Mitchell]

Sure, but that's not the same thing. Thunderbird does it as well. It's
still isn;t a full graphical representation you can navigate through.

Yeah, well, after 10 min tests of Hogwasher and MacSOUP I am not a fan of
graphical representation. Am I missing something, or are these two
applications extremely mouse-intensive?

Daiya

 

[Corentin Cras-Méneur]

Hi Daiya,

Yeah, well, after 10 min tests of Hogwasher and MacSOUP I am not a fan of
graphical representation. Am I missing something, or are these two
applications extremely mouse-intensive?

Mouse intensive ?? I'm hardly ever using the mouse... There are shortcut
all over the place.

A few examples of shortcuts I often use in MacSoup:
- open a message in a thread and use the numeric keypad to go from
message to message (4, 8, 6, 2). No need to use the mouse at all to
navigate.
- select a message in a newsgroup and press command-m (mark as read
- in a newsgroup, 1 shows the unread messages, 2, read, 3 all, 4,tagged,
5 new and 6 locked
- Open a thread and press command-e to marks the entire thread as read.
The same thing in a group marks all posts as read and closes the
newsgroup allowing you to select another group in the list
- Enter opens a group (or message if you are already in a group)
.......

Actually most "old-time" newsreaders use similar shortcuts (eg MT-NW,
Thoth, HogWasher and MacSoup).


Corentin

 

[John McGhie]

<Prayer> God, please make me willing to keep my damn mouth shut in
here...</prayer>

Hi Daiya,


Mouse intensive ?? I'm hardly ever using the mouse... There are shortcut
all over the place.

A few examples of shortcuts I often use in MacSoup:
- open a message in a thread and use the numeric keypad to go from
message to message (4, 8, 6, 2). No need to use the mouse at all to
navigate.
- select a message in a newsgroup and press command-m (mark as read
- in a newsgroup, 1 shows the unread messages, 2, read, 3 all, 4,tagged,
5 new and 6 locked
- Open a thread and press command-e to marks the entire thread as read.
The same thing in a group marks all posts as read and closes the
newsgroup allowing you to select another group in the list
- Enter opens a group (or message if you are already in a group)
......


Actually most "old-time" newsreaders use similar shortcuts (eg MT-NW,
Thoth, HogWasher and MacSoup).


Corentin

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[JE McGimpsey]

<Prayer> God, please make me willing to keep my damn mouth shut in
here...</prayer>

ROFLMAO!!!!

You owe me a new keyboard, McGhie!

 

[John McGhie]

{sorry} :-0

ROFLMAO!!!!

You owe me a new keyboard, McGhie!

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[Cath]

I am not very good with VBA- so maybe I should stay away from your templates,
thanks for your advice- it was useful.
Cath

 

[Phillip M. Jones, CE.T.]

Sure, but that's not the same thing. Thunderbird does it as well. It's
still isn;t a full graphical representation you can navigate through.




Absolutely!! That's why I keep on recomending it (and MT-NW is GNKSA
compliant ) ).

Corentin

Please don't talk about that!! :-<

I even have a filter setup that anything that has That in the subject
either is Trashed or marked read before I ave to read it.

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