anchoring a frame but not to a header

[AML]

I'm trying to anchor a frame to the bottom of the page but not to a header or
a footer. Nor do i want to use the footer - I want to use that to say 1 of 1
etc.

In another thread Suzanne said this in relation to anchoring and not have it
move:
The only place you can put *anything* and have a realistic expectation of it
staying there is the Header/Footer layer. [One possible exception being at
the very beginning of the document.]

The one possible exception is exactly what i want to do. At the very
beginning of my document, without using the header facility, I nevertheless
have a 'header' - it is a graphic stretching across the page.

Can I anchor my frame to this and if so how?

 

[CyberTaz]

Just for clarity let me emphasize one key point - *nothing* in Word can be
anchored to a *page* because pages do not exist. Pagination is imposed on
the document content by margin settings & the printer

The point Suzanne was making is that _if_ you anchor a graphic object to the
*very first paragraph* of a document you may have luck keeping it there
because it is at the very beginning of the text flow. Since the location of
that paragraph is not likely to change the position of the graphic
in/anchored to it is less likely to change as well. IOW, "very beginning"
means precisely that, not to be loosely interpreted as 'somewhere near the
beginning'.

A floating object anchored to that very first paragraph can have its
position specified through the Format> <type of object> dialog using the
Horizontal & Vertical options. (For objects other than Frames, on the Layout
tab, click the Advanced button & set the specifications as needed.)

HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

 

[AML]

Thanks for that. However, I don't have an option <type of object> under
Format. I'm running Office 2000 Pro - mainly because I needed Access. Never
upgraded because "if it ain't broke..." Is there a fix, or will I need to
upgrade?

Just for clarity let me emphasize one key point - *nothing* in Word can be
anchored to a *page* because pages do not exist. Pagination is imposed on
the document content by margin settings & the printer

The point Suzanne was making is that _if_ you anchor a graphic object to the
*very first paragraph* of a document you may have luck keeping it there
because it is at the very beginning of the text flow. Since the location of
that paragraph is not likely to change the position of the graphic
in/anchored to it is less likely to change as well. IOW, "very beginning"
means precisely that, not to be loosely interpreted as 'somewhere near the
beginning'.

A floating object anchored to that very first paragraph can have its
position specified through the Format> <type of object> dialog using the
Horizontal & Vertical options. (For objects other than Frames, on the Layout
tab, click the Advanced button & set the specifications as needed.)

HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

I'm trying to anchor a frame to the bottom of the page but not to a header or
a footer. Nor do i want to use the footer - I want to use that to say 1 of 1
etc.

In another thread Suzanne said this in relation to anchoring and not have it
move:
The only place you can put *anything* and have a realistic expectation of it
staying there is the Header/Footer layer. [One possible exception being at
the very beginning of the document.]

The one possible exception is exactly what i want to do. At the very
beginning of my document, without using the header facility, I nevertheless
have a 'header' - it is a graphic stretching across the page.

Can I anchor my frame to this and if so how?

 

[CyberTaz]

I honestly can't remember 2000, but I believe it was the same...

What I was indicating is that if you select a Picture the Format Menu will
have Picture at the bottom, if you select a text box that same position in
the menu will display Text Box - IOW, the command is contextual depending on
what you have selected at the time. By the same token, if you have *no*
object selected there will be no Format <object type> at all - or it may be
dimmed... Like I say, it's been a while since I've worked with 2000 and
don't have it available to check.

However, you can also get to the appropriate dialog by right-clicking the
*boundary* of a text box or frame, or directly on a picture, WordArt object,
etc. The Format <whatever> command will appear in the contextual menu.

I don't see any reason to upgrade if 2000 serves you well - it is one of the
most stable releases of Office. If you do consider upgrading for the
additional features & improvements, skip 2002 altogether (no matter how
cheap you can get it ) and go directly to 2003. If considering 2007, I'd
strongly recommend that you scrutinize it before paying the price... Not
being judgmental as far as "better/worse", it's just *radically* different.

HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

Thanks for that. However, I don't have an option <type of object> under
Format. I'm running Office 2000 Pro - mainly because I needed Access. Never
upgraded because "if it ain't broke..." Is there a fix, or will I need to
upgrade?

Just for clarity let me emphasize one key point - *nothing* in Word can be
anchored to a *page* because pages do not exist. Pagination is imposed on
the document content by margin settings & the printer

The point Suzanne was making is that _if_ you anchor a graphic object to the
*very first paragraph* of a document you may have luck keeping it there
because it is at the very beginning of the text flow. Since the location of
that paragraph is not likely to change the position of the graphic
in/anchored to it is less likely to change as well. IOW, "very beginning"
means precisely that, not to be loosely interpreted as 'somewhere near the
beginning'.

A floating object anchored to that very first paragraph can have its
position specified through the Format> <type of object> dialog using the
Horizontal & Vertical options. (For objects other than Frames, on the Layout
tab, click the Advanced button & set the specifications as needed.)

HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

I'm trying to anchor a frame to the bottom of the page but not to a header
or
a footer. Nor do i want to use the footer - I want to use that to say 1 of 1
etc.

In another thread Suzanne said this in relation to anchoring and not have it
move:
The only place you can put *anything* and have a realistic expectation of it
staying there is the Header/Footer layer. [One possible exception being at
the very beginning of the document.]

The one possible exception is exactly what i want to do. At the very
beginning of my document, without using the header facility, I nevertheless
have a 'header' - it is a graphic stretching across the page.

Can I anchor my frame to this and if so how?

 

[AML]

Thanks for all your help, I'm definitely making progress here. I've found the
Format window for Frames, but Word Help says:
Position a frame
You can position, or place, a frame by dragging it, or you can align it with
a reference point, such as a paragraph, page, margin, or newspaper column. A
frame pushes the surrounding text aside. The frame is always anchored to the
closest paragraph and appears on the same page as the paragraph it's anchored
to.

But what I'm trying to do is anchor this frame at the bottom of the page by
referencing the first paragraph. Am I able to reference this specific
paragraph?
My frame settings are Horizontal position: 0.32cm relative to column
(distance from text:0.32cm) and Vertical position: 26.3cm relative to page
(distance from text: 0cm). Obviously I've locked the anchor.

I honestly can't remember 2000, but I believe it was the same...

What I was indicating is that if you select a Picture the Format Menu will
have Picture at the bottom, if you select a text box that same position in
the menu will display Text Box - IOW, the command is contextual depending on
what you have selected at the time. By the same token, if you have *no*
object selected there will be no Format <object type> at all - or it may be
dimmed... Like I say, it's been a while since I've worked with 2000 and
don't have it available to check.

However, you can also get to the appropriate dialog by right-clicking the
*boundary* of a text box or frame, or directly on a picture, WordArt object,
etc. The Format <whatever> command will appear in the contextual menu.

I don't see any reason to upgrade if 2000 serves you well - it is one of the
most stable releases of Office. If you do consider upgrading for the
additional features & improvements, skip 2002 altogether (no matter how
cheap you can get it ) and go directly to 2003. If considering 2007, I'd
strongly recommend that you scrutinize it before paying the price... Not
being judgmental as far as "better/worse", it's just *radically* different.

HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

Thanks for that. However, I don't have an option <type of object> under
Format. I'm running Office 2000 Pro - mainly because I needed Access. Never
upgraded because "if it ain't broke..." Is there a fix, or will I need to
upgrade?

Just for clarity let me emphasize one key point - *nothing* in Word can be
anchored to a *page* because pages do not exist. Pagination is imposed on
the document content by margin settings & the printer

The point Suzanne was making is that _if_ you anchor a graphic object to the
*very first paragraph* of a document you may have luck keeping it there
because it is at the very beginning of the text flow. Since the location of
that paragraph is not likely to change the position of the graphic
in/anchored to it is less likely to change as well. IOW, "very beginning"
means precisely that, not to be loosely interpreted as 'somewhere near the
beginning'.

A floating object anchored to that very first paragraph can have its
position specified through the Format> <type of object> dialog using the
Horizontal & Vertical options. (For objects other than Frames, on the Layout
tab, click the Advanced button & set the specifications as needed.)

HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 8/18/07 3:20 PM, in article
(e-mail address removed), "AML"

I'm trying to anchor a frame to the bottom of the page but not to a header
or
a footer. Nor do i want to use the footer - I want to use that to say 1 of 1
etc.

In another thread Suzanne said this in relation to anchoring and not have it
move:
The only place you can put *anything* and have a realistic expectation of it
staying there is the Header/Footer layer. [One possible exception being at
the very beginning of the document.]

The one possible exception is exactly what i want to do. At the very
beginning of my document, without using the header facility, I nevertheless
have a 'header' - it is a graphic stretching across the page.

Can I anchor my frame to this and if so how?

 

[Stefan Blom]

In the Frame dialog box, at "Vertical," set the "Position" to "Bottom,"
"Relative to:" "Margin." This places the frame at the bottom margin of the
page where the anchor is.

Note, however, the frame (or any other object) can never appear on a
different page than its anchor paragraph. In other words, if the paragraph
containing the anchor is moved to the next page (for example by cut and
paste), the frame will move to the bottom of *that* page.

--
Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


in message

Thanks for all your help, I'm definitely making progress here. I've found
the
Format window for Frames, but Word Help says:
Position a frame
You can position, or place, a frame by dragging it, or you can align it
with
a reference point, such as a paragraph, page, margin, or newspaper column.
A
frame pushes the surrounding text aside. The frame is always anchored to
the
closest paragraph and appears on the same page as the paragraph it's
anchored
to.

But what I'm trying to do is anchor this frame at the bottom of the page
by
referencing the first paragraph. Am I able to reference this specific
paragraph?
My frame settings are Horizontal position: 0.32cm relative to column
(distance from text:0.32cm) and Vertical position: 26.3cm relative to page
(distance from text: 0cm). Obviously I've locked the anchor.

I honestly can't remember 2000, but I believe it was the same...

What I was indicating is that if you select a Picture the Format Menu
will
have Picture at the bottom, if you select a text box that same position
in
the menu will display Text Box - IOW, the command is contextual depending
on
what you have selected at the time. By the same token, if you have *no*
object selected there will be no Format <object type> at all - or it may
be
dimmed... Like I say, it's been a while since I've worked with 2000 and
don't have it available to check.

However, you can also get to the appropriate dialog by right-clicking the
*boundary* of a text box or frame, or directly on a picture, WordArt
object,
etc. The Format <whatever> command will appear in the contextual menu.

I don't see any reason to upgrade if 2000 serves you well - it is one of
the
most stable releases of Office. If you do consider upgrading for the
additional features & improvements, skip 2002 altogether (no matter how
cheap you can get it ) and go directly to 2003. If considering 2007,
I'd
strongly recommend that you scrutinize it before paying the price... Not
being judgmental as far as "better/worse", it's just *radically*
different.

HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

Thanks for that. However, I don't have an option <type of object> under
Format. I'm running Office 2000 Pro - mainly because I needed Access.
Never
upgraded because "if it ain't broke..." Is there a fix, or will I need
to
upgrade?

:

Just for clarity let me emphasize one key point - *nothing* in Word
can be
anchored to a *page* because pages do not exist. Pagination is imposed
on
the document content by margin settings & the printer

The point Suzanne was making is that _if_ you anchor a graphic object
to the
*very first paragraph* of a document you may have luck keeping it
there
because it is at the very beginning of the text flow. Since the
location of
that paragraph is not likely to change the position of the graphic
in/anchored to it is less likely to change as well. IOW, "very
beginning"
means precisely that, not to be loosely interpreted as 'somewhere near
the
beginning'.

A floating object anchored to that very first paragraph can have its
position specified through the Format> <type of object> dialog using
the
Horizontal & Vertical options. (For objects other than Frames, on the
Layout
tab, click the Advanced button & set the specifications as needed.)

HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 8/18/07 3:20 PM, in article
(e-mail address removed), "AML"

I'm trying to anchor a frame to the bottom of the page but not to a
header
or
a footer. Nor do i want to use the footer - I want to use that to say
1 of 1
etc.

In another thread Suzanne said this in relation to anchoring and not
have it
move:
The only place you can put *anything* and have a realistic
expectation of it
staying there is the Header/Footer layer. [One possible exception
being at
the very beginning of the document.]

The one possible exception is exactly what i want to do. At the very
beginning of my document, without using the header facility, I
nevertheless
have a 'header' - it is a graphic stretching across the page.

Can I anchor my frame to this and if so how?

 

[CyberTaz]

Actually the Help wording is a bit vague or misleading. I think what it's
trying to get across is that the frame will initially anchor itself to the
nearest paragraph. However as long as you don't have the anchor locked you
can drag it to anchor the frame to any paragraph on the same page. Locking
the anchor simply prevents it from being manually repositioned (dragged).

I'm not sure what you mean by "referencing the first paragraph", but
regardless of the frame's content or purpose you can anchor it to any
paragraph you wish. However, if I interpret you correctly, anchoring the
paragraph to the first paragraph of the very first page & setting the
position relative to that is probably the closest you can get to what you
want.

--
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac


--
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

Thanks for all your help, I'm definitely making progress here. I've found
the
Format window for Frames, but Word Help says:
Position a frame
You can position, or place, a frame by dragging it, or you can align it
with
a reference point, such as a paragraph, page, margin, or newspaper column.
A
frame pushes the surrounding text aside. The frame is always anchored to
the
closest paragraph and appears on the same page as the paragraph it's
anchored
to.

But what I'm trying to do is anchor this frame at the bottom of the page
by
referencing the first paragraph. Am I able to reference this specific
paragraph?
My frame settings are Horizontal position: 0.32cm relative to column
(distance from text:0.32cm) and Vertical position: 26.3cm relative to page
(distance from text: 0cm). Obviously I've locked the anchor.

I honestly can't remember 2000, but I believe it was the same...

What I was indicating is that if you select a Picture the Format Menu
will
have Picture at the bottom, if you select a text box that same position
in
the menu will display Text Box - IOW, the command is contextual depending
on
what you have selected at the time. By the same token, if you have *no*
object selected there will be no Format <object type> at all - or it may
be
dimmed... Like I say, it's been a while since I've worked with 2000 and
don't have it available to check.

However, you can also get to the appropriate dialog by right-clicking the
*boundary* of a text box or frame, or directly on a picture, WordArt
object,
etc. The Format <whatever> command will appear in the contextual menu.

I don't see any reason to upgrade if 2000 serves you well - it is one of
the
most stable releases of Office. If you do consider upgrading for the
additional features & improvements, skip 2002 altogether (no matter how
cheap you can get it ) and go directly to 2003. If considering 2007,
I'd
strongly recommend that you scrutinize it before paying the price... Not
being judgmental as far as "better/worse", it's just *radically*
different.

HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

Thanks for that. However, I don't have an option <type of object> under
Format. I'm running Office 2000 Pro - mainly because I needed Access.
Never
upgraded because "if it ain't broke..." Is there a fix, or will I need
to
upgrade?

:

Just for clarity let me emphasize one key point - *nothing* in Word
can be
anchored to a *page* because pages do not exist. Pagination is imposed
on
the document content by margin settings & the printer

The point Suzanne was making is that _if_ you anchor a graphic object
to the
*very first paragraph* of a document you may have luck keeping it
there
because it is at the very beginning of the text flow. Since the
location of
that paragraph is not likely to change the position of the graphic
in/anchored to it is less likely to change as well. IOW, "very
beginning"
means precisely that, not to be loosely interpreted as 'somewhere near
the
beginning'.

A floating object anchored to that very first paragraph can have its
position specified through the Format> <type of object> dialog using
the
Horizontal & Vertical options. (For objects other than Frames, on the
Layout
tab, click the Advanced button & set the specifications as needed.)

HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 8/18/07 3:20 PM, in article
(e-mail address removed), "AML"

I'm trying to anchor a frame to the bottom of the page but not to a
header
or
a footer. Nor do i want to use the footer - I want to use that to say
1 of 1
etc.

In another thread Suzanne said this in relation to anchoring and not
have it
move:
The only place you can put *anything* and have a realistic
expectation of it
staying there is the Header/Footer layer. [One possible exception
being at
the very beginning of the document.]

The one possible exception is exactly what i want to do. At the very
beginning of my document, without using the header facility, I
nevertheless
have a 'header' - it is a graphic stretching across the page.

Can I anchor my frame to this and if so how?

 

[AML]

Thank you to both of you. Solved the problem. I'm more at home with Graphic
Design which would have made short work of this, but in Word it's a bit of a
nightmare. Thanks again.

Actually the Help wording is a bit vague or misleading. I think what it's
trying to get across is that the frame will initially anchor itself to the
nearest paragraph. However as long as you don't have the anchor locked you
can drag it to anchor the frame to any paragraph on the same page. Locking
the anchor simply prevents it from being manually repositioned (dragged).

I'm not sure what you mean by "referencing the first paragraph", but
regardless of the frame's content or purpose you can anchor it to any
paragraph you wish. However, if I interpret you correctly, anchoring the
paragraph to the first paragraph of the very first page & setting the
position relative to that is probably the closest you can get to what you
want.

--
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac


--
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

Thanks for all your help, I'm definitely making progress here. I've found
the
Format window for Frames, but Word Help says:
Position a frame
You can position, or place, a frame by dragging it, or you can align it
with
a reference point, such as a paragraph, page, margin, or newspaper column.
A
frame pushes the surrounding text aside. The frame is always anchored to
the
closest paragraph and appears on the same page as the paragraph it's
anchored
to.

But what I'm trying to do is anchor this frame at the bottom of the page
by
referencing the first paragraph. Am I able to reference this specific
paragraph?
My frame settings are Horizontal position: 0.32cm relative to column
(distance from text:0.32cm) and Vertical position: 26.3cm relative to page
(distance from text: 0cm). Obviously I've locked the anchor.

I honestly can't remember 2000, but I believe it was the same...

What I was indicating is that if you select a Picture the Format Menu
will
have Picture at the bottom, if you select a text box that same position
in
the menu will display Text Box - IOW, the command is contextual depending
on
what you have selected at the time. By the same token, if you have *no*
object selected there will be no Format <object type> at all - or it may
be
dimmed... Like I say, it's been a while since I've worked with 2000 and
don't have it available to check.

However, you can also get to the appropriate dialog by right-clicking the
*boundary* of a text box or frame, or directly on a picture, WordArt
object,
etc. The Format <whatever> command will appear in the contextual menu.

I don't see any reason to upgrade if 2000 serves you well - it is one of
the
most stable releases of Office. If you do consider upgrading for the
additional features & improvements, skip 2002 altogether (no matter how
cheap you can get it ) and go directly to 2003. If considering 2007,
I'd
strongly recommend that you scrutinize it before paying the price... Not
being judgmental as far as "better/worse", it's just *radically*
different.

HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 8/19/07 4:42 AM, in article
(e-mail address removed), "AML"

Thanks for that. However, I don't have an option <type of object> under
Format. I'm running Office 2000 Pro - mainly because I needed Access.
Never
upgraded because "if it ain't broke..." Is there a fix, or will I need
to
upgrade?

:

Just for clarity let me emphasize one key point - *nothing* in Word
can be
anchored to a *page* because pages do not exist. Pagination is imposed
on
the document content by margin settings & the printer

The point Suzanne was making is that _if_ you anchor a graphic object
to the
*very first paragraph* of a document you may have luck keeping it
there
because it is at the very beginning of the text flow. Since the
location of
that paragraph is not likely to change the position of the graphic
in/anchored to it is less likely to change as well. IOW, "very
beginning"
means precisely that, not to be loosely interpreted as 'somewhere near
the
beginning'.

A floating object anchored to that very first paragraph can have its
position specified through the Format> <type of object> dialog using
the
Horizontal & Vertical options. (For objects other than Frames, on the
Layout
tab, click the Advanced button & set the specifications as needed.)

HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac



On 8/18/07 3:20 PM, in article
(e-mail address removed), "AML"

I'm trying to anchor a frame to the bottom of the page but not to a
header
or
a footer. Nor do i want to use the footer - I want to use that to say
1 of 1
etc.

In another thread Suzanne said this in relation to anchoring and not
have it
move:
The only place you can put *anything* and have a realistic
expectation of it
staying there is the Header/Footer layer. [One possible exception
being at
the very beginning of the document.]

The one possible exception is exactly what i want to do. At the very
beginning of my document, without using the header facility, I
nevertheless
have a 'header' - it is a graphic stretching across the page.

Can I anchor my frame to this and if so how?

 

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

You seem to have solved the problem while I was out of town, but you might
want to look at http://sbarnhill.mvps.org/WordFAQs/AnchorToHeader.htm. Note
that if you anchor something to the First Page Header/Footer, it will appear
only on the first page. It will also be out of harm's way and unaffected by
text flow on the page.