" and ? - replacement in web page

[Susan]

I maintain a website with FrontPage and I was embarrassed
to find that on one page the " marks are replaced with
a ? in several places. I admit that I am not the best
typist but I don't think it was typos on my part. Someone
suggested it may have something to do with fonts?

Can anyone shed any light on this problem?

Thanks,
Susan

 

[Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]]

URL?

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

If the font doesn't have the character, then it is replaced

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[Susan]

http://fairhopechristianchurch.org/Beliefs.htm

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[Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]]

How did you put the copyright symbol in there (I can see it in View |
Source)?

 

[Susan]

I think I used the character map and found what I had to
use alt + 0169.

Now I see that my shared border with the copyright symbol
is messed up. What is funny is that my source which I
Publish from, appears fine. I have XP Pro with IIS
installed.

I do know that the hosting company is doing maintenance
on the hardware. But would that affect how a webpage
would appear?
********************************************

Dear Customer,

We have scheduled for maintenance of your web server to
take
place on Sep 8, 2004 from 09:00 to Sep 9, 2004 18:00
Pacific Time. We will be replacing hardware of your server
and during this time your FTP access to the server will be
unavailable.

Web serving functionality and email services will not be
disrupted by this process.

We apologize in advance for any inconvenience caused.
*************************************************

 

[Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]]

Susan:
I don't think their server maintenance would cause this (but I've been wrong
before).

I would try Insert | Symbol and insert the copyright sysmbol from there.

You might also try changing this:

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">

to this:

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">

in Code View.

 

[Andrew Murray]

you'd think all font sets would have double quotes wouldn't you? I mean it is a
basic punctuation mark, as much as the question mark is.

 

[Andrew Murray]

weird - it comes up as question marks in the browser but on view-source, comes up
as quotes.

 

[Ronx]

The characters are not quotes - they are "smart quotes" AKA 66 and 99.
In code view replace the opening quotes with “ and the closing quotes
with ”
including the ampersand and semicolon.

Ron

 

[Wally S]

They are indeed smart quotes. How was the page put together? If an MS Word
doc has smart quotes, when you drag it onto an open page in FP, FP
automatically changes the smart quotes to normal quotes (another advantage
of dragging Word docs into FP). There must be a reason for this. Do browsers
have a problem displaying smart quotes?

Wally S

 

[Ronx]

Depends on how the smart quotes are implemented. If put in the HTML code as
“ and ” then should be no problem (provided the font and
character set supports those entities), but if placed in the code as their
ASCII equivalents then there may be problems in display, as at
http://fairhopechristianchurch.org/Beliefs.htm

Ron

 

[Susan]

I directly edited the pages. I hope I got all the smart
quotes. I am still having problems with the copyright
symbol although I used the insert symbol within FP 2002.
I am glad this is a small website!

Susan

 

[Susan]

I have edited the quotes, but I have no luck with the
copyright symbol. I have tried inserting the symbol with
both Unicode hex and ASCII hex and a ? appears. I guess I
may just have to use Adobe and generate a GIF with the
symbol and insert a picture!

Thank you everyone for your help!
Susan

 

[Kathleen Anderson [MVP - FrontPage]]

Susan:
Can you try changing this:

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">

to this:

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">

in Code View.

 

[Ronx]

Are you inserting the symbol in code (HTML) view as an entity: ©
(that's the 6 characters & # 1 6 9 ; without spaces.)

Just in case your newsreader hid the detail, smart quotes can be placed in
code using the 6 characters & # 1 4 7 ; (opening) and & # 1 4 8 ;
(closing) again without spaces.

Ron

 

[Susan]

Yes, I was a little dense on specifying hex in the html
code. I just realized that is what you do with
background colors. It worked! I still do not understand
why the Character Map under System Tools would not work.

I had tried the charset=iso-8859-1 thing but that seemed
to have no effect.

The Windows XP Pro must recognize Smart Quotes, symbols,
etc. because I never noticed the problem until I
published out to the remote server.

I thank everyone for you help! I have learned another
quirky thing about browsers!

Susan