Animation Order??

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Steve

Hi out there...

Hopefully this is a simple problem... unfortunately, I'm not good enough at
PowerPoint to figure it out!

We've built a multi-slide presentation. Some of the slides start off with
TEXT at top and end with a TABLE below. While running a SlideShow... the
TABLE (bottom) slides in first; click the mouse and the TEXT (top) flows in.

It's consistent enough that I'm thinking animation priority is "tables" then
"text"?? How can I change the order? In fact, is there a way to control
"order" of ANY item on a specific slide??

Thanks in advance!!!
Steve
 
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Chirag

You can use the Custom Animation dialog box (PowerPoint 2000) or task pane
(PowerPoint 2002, 2003) for setting the order of animations. Select "Slide
Show" | "Custom Animations..." menu item to gain access to animation
settings.

- Chirag

OfficeOne Animations - Add over 50 animation effects to PowerPoint
http://officeone.mvps.org/anims/anims.html
 
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Steve

Hi Chirag...

Thanks for responding but I don't see what you're talking about. I should
have added "PowerPoint 2002".

Anyway, the slide format is... title at top, text box in center and table at
bottom... which "happens" to be "foreground" inside the text box. The slide
opens with the title (top) and table (bottom)... clicking bring in the text
(middle).

I've gone all over "Custom Animation"... before and after your suggestion...
and each slide has only "* Master: Body" in center box and both it and
"Re-Order" (bottom) are grey-out. I've "Copied Effects to Slide" but didn't
see anything that gave me the opportunity to change the order of these
boxes.

Oh well?
Steve
 
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Chirag

Lets see:
Select "Slide Show" | "Custom Animations..." menu item to open the
animations task pane. Do you see the list of animation effects that exist
for the slide?
You seem to be saying that the title and table appear when the slide opens.
This either means that the title and table are set to animate at index 0 or
there are no animations applied to title and table.
The animation list should look such that the text box should have a lower
index than the table. Please check that list.

- Chirag

OfficeOne Animations - Add over 50 animation effects to PowerPoint
http://officeone.mvps.org/anims/anims.html
 
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Kathy J

Steve,
Let's step back - Which elements are in placeholders? The title and the
table or the title and the text?

Assuming (I know - bad) that the title and the table are in the
placeholders...When you do the copy effects to slide, what animations show
in the list:
One animation for the table followed by the one you added for your text
One animation for the title followed by the one you added for your text
The animation you added for your text

If the answer is the first one, then after you copy the effects to the
slide, drag the animation for the text to above the one for the table. If it
is the second one, add an animation for the table (it will default to last
and fix your order problem). If it is the third one, you need to animate the
two placeholders, and then drag the animations around in the list to the
order you want.

Post back and let us know if this gets you closer...
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Steve

Hi Kathy J and Chirag...

OK now... you guys are getting me in the ballpark but still not home yet!
Let me pass on what I did and now see:

1. Opened ppt and went to slide that's mucked up. Clicked "SlideShow" &
"Custon Animation"... "Custom Animation" slide in at right. ALL ARE GREYED
OUT... except "Play" & "Slide Show" at bottom. Box has "* Master Body"...
nothing else.

2. I thought I'd copy that single slide out... into a new ppt... and attach
it here... but clicking "SlideShow" made all 3 elements pop up at once...
that and both your comments caused me to "View"/"Slide Master".

3. "Slide Master" does have a list... not what I expected to see tho:
a. There are 3 "areas"... "Click to Edit Master Title Style" at top;
"Click ... Text Styles" in middle; and "Number Area" at bottom-right. The
Text Style box is set up at "Bullets" down to 3 levels.

b. The "Custom Animation" work area (far right) now has a list... first
line has "1", mouse icon, "*" (icon) and "Click to Edit Master..." Line 2
has "* Second Level", Line 3 has "* Third Level". Now I can see/understand
how the TEXT box would flow.

Trying to answer Kathy's question... I thought a "placeholder" was the
perimeter square/outline of any slide element... so given that... I have 5
items

1. Title across the top... placed from Slide Master but, of course, I
typed in the current slide title
2. CopyRight at bottom-left... ONLY from Slide Master and not touched
within briefing
3. Bottom-right is "Slide Number" and hand-changed per slide
4. Middle area is Text Area... basically from Slide Master... but, for
this slide, I unchecked "Bullets" at top, centered the text at top of box...
box fills rest of slide
5. This slide required a TABLE... I created using the "Insert Table"
icon... 2 columns/3 rows. PowerPoint pushed text to left and table to
right... so I re-sized the TEXT back to 9.25"... and MOVED the TABLE to
blank area at bottom of slide. Table now sits "inside" text box
"perimeter"... I pushed text to background.

Just to re-clarify... Slide Master list ONLY orders up BULLET order WITHIN
text box. No where do I see a list talking about "Title", "Text" nor
"Table" order!

Sorry to be such a pain to this group but I'm just a so-so PowerPoint type
but I find "thought 2" sliding in before "thought 1" disconcerting while
giving this briefing...

Thanks again!!
Steve
 
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Echo S

I'm not sure I'm following this conversation, so I'll just point you to
this:

http://www.echosvoice.com/changeanimation.htm#ChangingAnimations

See, I'm thinking that your table is taking on the animation that's set on
the placeholder on the master slide. That's all well and good, but it seems
that when you have both a table and a regular text placeholder, the order's
getting mucked up. I suspect that you'll have to move the animations to the
slide so that you can reorder them. The link above explains how to move the
animations to the slide so that they can be modified (which would include
reordering).

Oh, it could also have to do with your slide layout itself. If you select
slide layout in the dropdown at the top of the task pane, you'll see all the
various slide layouts. Which does this slide use? If you want to select just
a regular "Title and Text" layout, you can then apply your animation
manually to the table, and I *think* it would come in *after* the text
placeholder, then.
 

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