blank formatting toolbar

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raymond46

I'm running the latest Word 2004, on 10.3.8, on a G4 ibook with 768
ram.

When I open the formatting toolbar, and have it vertical down the left
side, the toolbar is blank, with all the icons invisible until I pass
the cursor over them. Them eventually, they go invisible again. Is this
meant to happen? It only happens with the formatting toolbar. It used
to happen with my G3, and I thought that it was because I had a slower
computer with limited memory, but it is just the same on my G4.
 
C

CyberTaz

I believe you are referring to the Formatting *Palette*, not the Formatting
Toolbar. Click the small black arrowhead at the bottom edge and choose
Customize Formatting Palette. In the window that comes up you can regulate
the transparency among other things as you will see.

HTH |:>)
 
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raymond46

No, I'm referring to the formatting toolbar. I have no problems with
the formatting palette
 
B

Beth Rosengard

Well, it *could* be the Formatting Toolbar. If you really are talking about
the Formatting Toolbar and not the Palette, Raymond, I don't see the problem
you're describing when I "verticalize" the Toolbar down the left side. But
go to Tools> Customize> Toolbars, select the Formatting Toolbar by clicking
on it once, and hit Reset. Does that help?

By the way, you do have a document open, don't you? If not, the icons will
be grayed out ­ but not invisible.

Other possibilities are a corrupt Normal Template and damaged Preferences.
You'll find the procedures for testing both at the following URL:

<http://word.mvps.org/MacWordNew/TroubleshootingIndex.htm>
(If using Safari, hit Refresh once or twice; better yet, use another browser
for this site.)

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C

Clive Huggan

Beth,

I have a dim recollection of someone reporting this 6(??) months ago,
exactly as Raymond describes. But for the life of me I can't find the
thread.

Clive
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D

Daiya Mitchell

I have a dim recollection of someone reporting this 6(??) months ago,
exactly as Raymond describes. But for the life of me I can't find the
thread.
Yes, me too. Invisible icons when the toolbar is set to vertical. I think
I even reproduced it, but not consistently. Found the thread:
<http://groups-beta.google.com/group/microsoft.public.mac.office.word/browse
_frm/thread/c6b6a3beb8eb526/ea6dc448ab6542b4?q=vertical+toolbar#ea6dc448ab65
42b4>
(but there must have been other threads as well)

In which MS said it was a known issue and and in the list of bugs. Raymond,
exactly what version of Word 2004? Have you installed the 11.1 and 11.1.1
updates?

DM
 
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raymond46

Ah yes, thanks. I did look for a relevant thread before I posted, and I
was surprised I couldn't find anything. I had this problem when I first
started with Word in OSX, and told microsoft about it, and heard
nothing. I'm glad to see that they have admitted it's a bug, but I do
wish they would do something about it.
I've trashed prefs, done everything possible. Upgraded to latest
version. Thought it was OK, but now it is back again.
(if anyone wants to replicate this darling little bug, just put the
formatting toolbar vertical on the left side of your screen.
Eventually, after a few openings, the icons will disappear, and stay
that way until you pass your cursor over them. It only happens with the
formatting toolbar. (Quite possibly, the size of monitor might also
have something to do with it)
 
C

Clive Huggan

Hello Raymond,

Something you said:
It only happens with the formatting toolbar

has given me an idea. It may work, but even if it doesn't solve your
problem it will not be wasted effort.

Seasoned users of Word developing long documents often don¹t leave the
default toolbars open; instead they create new personal toolbars that
contain the buttons they want ‹ most or many of them being copies of buttons
on the default toolbars.

There are two major advantages to this. First, you can easily transfer your
personal toolbars to another template or document at some future date.
That¹s important because, unfortunately, Word does not permit you to copy to
a different template any default toolbars that you have customized. So when
you become comfortable with creating your own templates for special
purposes, if you have modified the default Standard, Formatting and other
toolbars you will be unable to take advantage of the modification work you
have done on them.

The second major advantage to creating new personal toolbars is that ‹ even
if you configure your documents to minimise corruption ‹ customizing and
editing of commands, keystrokes and toolbars will, in time, corrupt the
Normal template. If/when your Normal template becomes corrupted, you will
have to re-configure the default toolbars from scratch, whereas it¹s easy to
copy your personal toolbars over from a bad template using the Organizer.

In your case, *if* it's true that only the formatting toolbar has the
"disappearing buttons" problem and that customized ones don't, you would
solve your problem at the same time as you derived the other benefits of
customized toolbars.

For a fuller discussion, including the steps involved in creating the new
toolbars, see the notes on the way I use Word for the Mac, titled "Bend Word
to Your Will", which are available as a free download from the Word MVPs'
website (http://word.mvps.org/MacWordNew/Bend/BendWord.htm). It starts with
the heading "Buttons, transferring between toolbars" on page 43.

If you try this, please let us know how you fare; it will be valuable
feedback.

Cheers,

Clive Huggan
Canberra, Australia
(My time zone is at least 5 hours different from the US and Europe, so my
follow-on responses to those regions can be delayed)
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roberthh

Hello Raymond,

I've also got weird about the blank formatting toolbar, because a
vertical toolbar is my favorite style for toolbars. There was also the
actual Zoom percentage floating around in the upper left corner of the
toolbar. I used the approach to change the toolbar size from 1 Icon
width to 2 Icon width. Then it worked nice. After loading the patch
11.1.1, this bug seems to be gone.

Good luck
Robert
 
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raymond46

Thanks for the advice. I'm not a heavy user of Word, but making my own
toolbars would probably be wise. Of course, I could also simple not
have the formatting toolbar in that position. This is not a
particularly cripping problem It is just irrititating.
Roberthh, I'm afraid I don't know what you mean by the "actual Zoom
percentage floating around in the upper left corner of the toolbar".
And because of the size of the font field, the narrowest I can get the
toolbar to be is three icons, which is just too wide
And 11.1.1 didn't send the bug away for me, I'm afraid.
 

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