Borders around photos

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ChrisB

I have chosen a the photo template with a photo gallery. However, I want a
border around the photos. When I use a text box to produce the border, the
hyperlink on the photo doesn't work?!

How do I do this?

Many thanks
 
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DavidF

ChrisB,

It is my understanding that both fill and borders break hyperlinks in some
versions of Publisher. In the future, please post the version you use, as
there are big differences. That's another subject you should read about on
David Bartosik's site. Read his FAQs page, and at least the sections about
your version of Publisher, and you will learn the answers to many questions
you have yet to ask.

DavidF
 
C

ChrisB

Apologies - 2003.

However, I played around taking the border off and on (using a text box to
create it) and it seems to be working now - no idea why. I don't know why
you can't just apply a border to the text box that is automatically
created - but it's greyed out?
 
D

DavidF

ChrisB,

I am confused. With Pub 2000 you can apply a border to a text frame OR a
picture frame by selecting the frame > format > line/border style, or right
clicking the frame > change frame > line/border style. What do you mean you
apply a border to a picture frame by using a text box?

DavidF
 
C

ChrisB

OK. I used a photo template for this page with multiple photos.

Each one has a border around it which cannot be seen when it is published -
it looks like a text box. If you double-click on it you get the AutoShape
options but the Colours and Lines tab is greyed out.

Therefore, what I did was created a text box around the original box.

There must be another way of doing it but cannot find the option you mention
in the menu - presumably because it won't allow me to put a border around it
because it's greyed out.

Hope this makes more sense. Thanks for your patience!

Chris
 
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DavidF

Hi ChrisB,

This is one of those times where I wish I had Pub 2003, as I do not have the
template on Pub 2000 so I cannot try to replicate your problem. Here are
some guesses...

First of all just click once on one of the photos. Then try right clicking
the frame > change frame > line/border style. Does this work? Alternatively
when you right click do you get the option of Change Shape (or something
like that) > Line/border style?

In Pub 2000, when I double click on a picture frame, I get the option of
changing the picture, not AutoShape options. This leaves me wondering if
your template is using AutoShapes that are filled with a picture. If so,
this option is different with Pub 2003, and it may be that the border you
see before publishing is not really a border, just the outside edge of the
AutoShape...or that it does not really support borders. I know that adding
borders to images using Pub 2000 does not always work when I publish the
document.

One experiment you might try is to drag one of the images off into the
scratch area, then create a new picture frame, insert your picture, and
apply the border, do a web preview and see if there is any difference.

If you are using image filled autoshapes in your template, then someone else
will have to tell you how to format/apply a border, as this option is
different in Pub 2003. I am pretty sure though that you do not add a layered
text box to get the effect you are wanting. That most likely will result in
a new gif image of the combined elements and likely will kill any
hyperlinks.

Good luck...DavidF
 
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David Bartosik

I cannot reproduce this when I use the photo gallery template. I right click
the image and can use either Format Picture, or use the Picture Tool bar to
apply a border. Which renders correctly.
You'd have to get explicit for me to try again to reproduce and review your
issue. State what wizard/template you are using and state each of your steps.
 
C

ChrisB

OK, thanks David/David

Will take another look and get back to you both

Many thanks again
David Bartosik said:
I cannot reproduce this when I use the photo gallery template. I right
click
the image and can use either Format Picture, or use the Picture Tool bar
to
apply a border. Which renders correctly.
You'd have to get explicit for me to try again to reproduce and review
your
issue. State what wizard/template you are using and state each of your
steps.
--
David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
http://www.publishermvps.com
http://www.davidbartosik.com



ChrisB said:
OK. I used a photo template for this page with multiple photos.

Each one has a border around it which cannot be seen when it is
published -
it looks like a text box. If you double-click on it you get the
AutoShape
options but the Colours and Lines tab is greyed out.

Therefore, what I did was created a text box around the original box.

There must be another way of doing it but cannot find the option you
mention
in the menu - presumably because it won't allow me to put a border around
it
because it's greyed out.

Hope this makes more sense. Thanks for your patience!

Chris
 
S

scwood2003

If you are using a text box or auto shape to create a border around a
previous object like a picture, word art, or another text box with a
hyperlink, because it is created after the picture or word art is imported or
text created, it "masks" the previous object, so you will need to change the
order on the page by going to ARRANGE/ORDER and select "bring to front",
"move to back", etc... for either one of the selected objects. Unless you are
trying for some special effect it's easier to "Format Picture" which iis
probably similiar to Publisher 2002, which allows you to right click on text
boxes and pictures so that they can be formatted with their own border and
fill without obstructing the hyperlink function (right click/FORMAT
PICTURE-TEXT/ Colors and Lines tab/selection). Another interesting
alternative is to use "Hot Spots" from the tool bar on the left to create an
area on an object (picture, text, etc...) to use as a hyper link. You can
create multiple "Hot Spots" (hyperlinks) on different areas of the same
object. Sort of the same as using "invisible" autoshapes with no borders or
fill as an overlay with a hyperlink. The latter allows you to use
ovals/circles, or even freeform shapes to define specific areas for creating
a hyperlink. Select AUTOSHAPES/LINES/FREEFORM from the toolbar on the left.
--
scwood2003


ChrisB said:
OK, thanks David/David

Will take another look and get back to you both

Many thanks again
David Bartosik said:
I cannot reproduce this when I use the photo gallery template. I right
click
the image and can use either Format Picture, or use the Picture Tool bar
to
apply a border. Which renders correctly.
You'd have to get explicit for me to try again to reproduce and review
your
issue. State what wizard/template you are using and state each of your
steps.
--
David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
http://www.publishermvps.com
http://www.davidbartosik.com



ChrisB said:
OK. I used a photo template for this page with multiple photos.

Each one has a border around it which cannot be seen when it is
published -
it looks like a text box. If you double-click on it you get the
AutoShape
options but the Colours and Lines tab is greyed out.

Therefore, what I did was created a text box around the original box.

There must be another way of doing it but cannot find the option you
mention
in the menu - presumably because it won't allow me to put a border around
it
because it's greyed out.

Hope this makes more sense. Thanks for your patience!

Chris
ChrisB,

I am confused. With Pub 2000 you can apply a border to a text frame OR
a
picture frame by selecting the frame > format > line/border style, or
right
clicking the frame > change frame > line/border style. What do you mean
you
apply a border to a picture frame by using a text box?

DavidF

Apologies - 2003.

However, I played around taking the border off and on (using a text
box
to
create it) and it seems to be working now - no idea why. I don't know
why
you can't just apply a border to the text box that is automatically
created - but it's greyed out?
ChrisB,

It is my understanding that both fill and borders break hyperlinks
in
some
versions of Publisher. In the future, please post the version you
use,
as
there are big differences. That's another subject you should read
about
on
David Bartosik's site. Read his FAQs page, and at least the sections
about
your version of Publisher, and you will learn the answers to many
questions
you have yet to ask.

DavidF

I have chosen a the photo template with a photo gallery. However,
I
want
a
border around the photos. When I use a text box to produce the
border,
the
hyperlink on the photo doesn't work?!

How do I do this?

Many thanks
 
C

ChrisB

I think I tried arranging the order etc. However, I got it to work in the
end and haven't had a chance to try all the other suggestions yet - so I
will add this to the list for when I next have the patience to go back
there!

Many thanks for all the help.


Chris
scwood2003 said:
If you are using a text box or auto shape to create a border around a
previous object like a picture, word art, or another text box with a
hyperlink, because it is created after the picture or word art is imported
or
text created, it "masks" the previous object, so you will need to change
the
order on the page by going to ARRANGE/ORDER and select "bring to front",
"move to back", etc... for either one of the selected objects. Unless you
are
trying for some special effect it's easier to "Format Picture" which iis
probably similiar to Publisher 2002, which allows you to right click on
text
boxes and pictures so that they can be formatted with their own border and
fill without obstructing the hyperlink function (right click/FORMAT
PICTURE-TEXT/ Colors and Lines tab/selection). Another interesting
alternative is to use "Hot Spots" from the tool bar on the left to create
an
area on an object (picture, text, etc...) to use as a hyper link. You can
create multiple "Hot Spots" (hyperlinks) on different areas of the same
object. Sort of the same as using "invisible" autoshapes with no borders
or
fill as an overlay with a hyperlink. The latter allows you to use
ovals/circles, or even freeform shapes to define specific areas for
creating
a hyperlink. Select AUTOSHAPES/LINES/FREEFORM from the toolbar on the
left.
--
scwood2003


ChrisB said:
OK, thanks David/David

Will take another look and get back to you both

Many thanks again
message
I cannot reproduce this when I use the photo gallery template. I right
click
the image and can use either Format Picture, or use the Picture Tool
bar
to
apply a border. Which renders correctly.
You'd have to get explicit for me to try again to reproduce and review
your
issue. State what wizard/template you are using and state each of your
steps.
--
David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
http://www.publishermvps.com
http://www.davidbartosik.com



:

OK. I used a photo template for this page with multiple photos.

Each one has a border around it which cannot be seen when it is
published -
it looks like a text box. If you double-click on it you get the
AutoShape
options but the Colours and Lines tab is greyed out.

Therefore, what I did was created a text box around the original box.

There must be another way of doing it but cannot find the option you
mention
in the menu - presumably because it won't allow me to put a border
around
it
because it's greyed out.

Hope this makes more sense. Thanks for your patience!

Chris
ChrisB,

I am confused. With Pub 2000 you can apply a border to a text frame
OR
a
picture frame by selecting the frame > format > line/border style,
or
right
clicking the frame > change frame > line/border style. What do you
mean
you
apply a border to a picture frame by using a text box?

DavidF

Apologies - 2003.

However, I played around taking the border off and on (using a text
box
to
create it) and it seems to be working now - no idea why. I don't
know
why
you can't just apply a border to the text box that is automatically
created - but it's greyed out?
ChrisB,

It is my understanding that both fill and borders break
hyperlinks
in
some
versions of Publisher. In the future, please post the version you
use,
as
there are big differences. That's another subject you should read
about
on
David Bartosik's site. Read his FAQs page, and at least the
sections
about
your version of Publisher, and you will learn the answers to many
questions
you have yet to ask.

DavidF

I have chosen a the photo template with a photo gallery.
However,
I
want
a
border around the photos. When I use a text box to produce the
border,
the
hyperlink on the photo doesn't work?!

How do I do this?

Many thanks
 
D

Deacon Steve

Another question: When I insert a photo or clip art in a word document, why
can't I see the image? Deacon Steve
 
D

DavidF

You might try emptying your internet cache and updating your video driver.
If that doesn't work, you might post this question in the Word newsgroup.

DavidF
 

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