Browser renders "HTML code fragment" in the wrong position

[Joel K.]

HTML code fragments in a Publisher 2003 web page do not show up in the
correct places. They are on top of other objects. The fragments are not
layered or part of any groups. They show up OK in Microsoft Internet
Explorer version 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp.050301-1521 (128 bit) but do not show up
correctly in version 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519 (128 bit).

Anyone have any ideas?

 

[David Bartosik [MSFT MVP]]

Post a URL for review.

State if you are using Pub 2003 or Pub 2003 SP1.

State what settings the PNG and the VML options are set to under tools, web
options.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

 

[Joel K.]

The URL is www.bsatroop99.info. See the "Calendar" tab. Look for the "Back
to top" links displaying in the wrong locations.

I guess I don't know if I am using SP1. "Help", "About" reports the
following:

Microsoft Office Publisher 2003 (11.5525.5606)
Part of Microsoft Office Small Business Edition 2003

Under tools, web page options, the PNG and VML boxes are unchecked.

Thanx.
Joel K.

Post a URL for review.

State if you are using Pub 2003 or Pub 2003 SP1.

State what settings the PNG and the VML options are set to under tools, web
options.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

HTML code fragments in a Publisher 2003 web page do not show up in the
correct places. They are on top of other objects. The fragments are not
layered or part of any groups. They show up OK in Microsoft Internet
Explorer version 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp.050301-1521 (128 bit) but do not show
up
correctly in version 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519 (128 bit).

Anyone have any ideas?

 

[Joel K.]

Turns out I did not have SP1 installed. However, after updating to SP1, I
opened and resaved the doc, did another "Publish to the Web" and re-uploaded
the entire site and there is no difference.

The "Back to Top" links are still in the wrong place. Again to view the
problem go to www.bsatroop99.info and click on "Calendar". Look for the
"Back to top" links displaying inside the July calendar.

FYI, after updating to SP1, "Help", "About" returns this:

Microsoft Office Publisher 2003 (11.6255.6408) SP1
Part of Microsoft Office Small Business Edition 2003

The URL is www.bsatroop99.info. See the "Calendar" tab. Look for the "Back
to top" links displaying in the wrong locations.

I guess I don't know if I am using SP1. "Help", "About" reports the
following:

Microsoft Office Publisher 2003 (11.5525.5606)
Part of Microsoft Office Small Business Edition 2003

Under tools, web page options, the PNG and VML boxes are unchecked.

Thanx.
Joel K.

Post a URL for review.

State if you are using Pub 2003 or Pub 2003 SP1.

State what settings the PNG and the VML options are set to under tools, web
options.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

HTML code fragments in a Publisher 2003 web page do not show up in the
correct places. They are on top of other objects. The fragments are not
layered or part of any groups. They show up OK in Microsoft Internet
Explorer version 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp.050301-1521 (128 bit) but do not show
up
correctly in version 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519 (128 bit).

Anyone have any ideas?

 

[DavidF]

Joel,

Perhaps try moving your 'back to top' fragment boxes to the left column, and
be sure that the box is not much larger than the resulting text. Also, have
you run design checker? And did you delete the old files before publishing
the new files?

DavidF

Turns out I did not have SP1 installed. However, after updating to SP1, I
opened and resaved the doc, did another "Publish to the Web" and re-uploaded
the entire site and there is no difference.

The "Back to Top" links are still in the wrong place. Again to view the
problem go to www.bsatroop99.info and click on "Calendar". Look for the
"Back to top" links displaying inside the July calendar.

FYI, after updating to SP1, "Help", "About" returns this:

Microsoft Office Publisher 2003 (11.6255.6408) SP1
Part of Microsoft Office Small Business Edition 2003

The URL is www.bsatroop99.info. See the "Calendar" tab. Look for the "Back
to top" links displaying in the wrong locations.

I guess I don't know if I am using SP1. "Help", "About" reports the
following:

Microsoft Office Publisher 2003 (11.5525.5606)
Part of Microsoft Office Small Business Edition 2003

Under tools, web page options, the PNG and VML boxes are unchecked.

Thanx.
Joel K.

Post a URL for review.

State if you are using Pub 2003 or Pub 2003 SP1.

State what settings the PNG and the VML options are set to under tools, web
options.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

HTML code fragments in a Publisher 2003 web page do not show up in the
correct places. They are on top of other objects. The fragments are not
layered or part of any groups. They show up OK in Microsoft Internet
Explorer version 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp.050301-1521 (128 bit) but do not show
up
correctly in version 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519 (128 bit).

Anyone have any ideas?

 

[David Bartosik [MSFT MVP]]

Most likely the wayward fragments are layered with something, though that be
not be noticeable to you. As DavidF pointed out, the design checker (tools
menu) would be the way to check.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
http://www.publishermvps.com
http://www.davidbartosik.com

Turns out I did not have SP1 installed. However, after updating to SP1, I
opened and resaved the doc, did another "Publish to the Web" and
re-uploaded
the entire site and there is no difference.

The "Back to Top" links are still in the wrong place. Again to view the
problem go to www.bsatroop99.info and click on "Calendar". Look for the
"Back to top" links displaying inside the July calendar.

FYI, after updating to SP1, "Help", "About" returns this:

Microsoft Office Publisher 2003 (11.6255.6408) SP1
Part of Microsoft Office Small Business Edition 2003

The URL is www.bsatroop99.info. See the "Calendar" tab. Look for the
"Back
to top" links displaying in the wrong locations.

I guess I don't know if I am using SP1. "Help", "About" reports the
following:

Microsoft Office Publisher 2003 (11.5525.5606)
Part of Microsoft Office Small Business Edition 2003

Under tools, web page options, the PNG and VML boxes are unchecked.

Thanx.
Joel K.

Post a URL for review.

State if you are using Pub 2003 or Pub 2003 SP1.

State what settings the PNG and the VML options are set to under tools,
web
options.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

HTML code fragments in a Publisher 2003 web page do not show up in
the
correct places. They are on top of other objects. The fragments are
not
layered or part of any groups. They show up OK in Microsoft Internet
Explorer version 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp.050301-1521 (128 bit) but do not
show
up
correctly in version 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519 (128
bit).

Anyone have any ideas?

 

[Joel K.]

The fragments are not layered or grouped with anything else. Design checker
reports no errors. There are no columns on the Calendar page. No I did not
delete all of the files before re-uploading the entire site, but I know that
all the files updated because the dates and times changed (I double checked
every single one). The code fragment boxes are longer than the code fragment
itself. The actual code fragment is listed below with brackets substituted
for < and >.

[p style="font-family:arial;font-size:60%"][a href="#_top"]Back to
top.[/a][/p]

I want to point out again that on some versions of IE, the fragments render
in the correct locations. On other versions of IE (see the first thread for
exact version numbers) they do not. Doesn't that point to more of a browser
issue than a Publisher issue?

Most likely the wayward fragments are layered with something, though that be
not be noticeable to you. As DavidF pointed out, the design checker (tools
menu) would be the way to check.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
http://www.publishermvps.com
http://www.davidbartosik.com

Turns out I did not have SP1 installed. However, after updating to SP1, I
opened and resaved the doc, did another "Publish to the Web" and
re-uploaded
the entire site and there is no difference.

The "Back to Top" links are still in the wrong place. Again to view the
problem go to www.bsatroop99.info and click on "Calendar". Look for the
"Back to top" links displaying inside the July calendar.

FYI, after updating to SP1, "Help", "About" returns this:

Microsoft Office Publisher 2003 (11.6255.6408) SP1
Part of Microsoft Office Small Business Edition 2003

The URL is www.bsatroop99.info. See the "Calendar" tab. Look for the
"Back
to top" links displaying in the wrong locations.

I guess I don't know if I am using SP1. "Help", "About" reports the
following:

Microsoft Office Publisher 2003 (11.5525.5606)
Part of Microsoft Office Small Business Edition 2003

Under tools, web page options, the PNG and VML boxes are unchecked.

Thanx.
Joel K.

:

Post a URL for review.

State if you are using Pub 2003 or Pub 2003 SP1.

State what settings the PNG and the VML options are set to under tools,
web
options.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

HTML code fragments in a Publisher 2003 web page do not show up in
the
correct places. They are on top of other objects. The fragments are
not
layered or part of any groups. They show up OK in Microsoft Internet
Explorer version 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp.050301-1521 (128 bit) but do not
show
up
correctly in version 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519 (128
bit).

Anyone have any ideas?

 

[David Bartosik [MSFT MVP]]

To soon to know if it's a browser issue, a pub issue, a code issue, or a
design issue. Browsers have a lot of control to correct mistakes. I did see
a red flag in your code snippet. On the font size style, remove that "60%",
replace it with "10pt"
Then resave and republish.
If that doesn't correct it I'll probably just have to review your Publisher
file.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

The fragments are not layered or grouped with anything else. Design
checker
reports no errors. There are no columns on the Calendar page. No I did
not
delete all of the files before re-uploading the entire site, but I know
that
all the files updated because the dates and times changed (I double
checked
every single one). The code fragment boxes are longer than the code
fragment
itself. The actual code fragment is listed below with brackets substituted
for < and >.

[p style="font-family:arial;font-size:60%"][a href="#_top"]Back to
top.[/a][/p]

I want to point out again that on some versions of IE, the fragments
render
in the correct locations. On other versions of IE (see the first thread
for
exact version numbers) they do not. Doesn't that point to more of a
browser
issue than a Publisher issue?

Most likely the wayward fragments are layered with something, though that
be
not be noticeable to you. As DavidF pointed out, the design checker
(tools
menu) would be the way to check.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
http://www.publishermvps.com
http://www.davidbartosik.com

Turns out I did not have SP1 installed. However, after updating to
SP1, I
opened and resaved the doc, did another "Publish to the Web" and
re-uploaded
the entire site and there is no difference.

The "Back to Top" links are still in the wrong place. Again to view
the
problem go to www.bsatroop99.info and click on "Calendar". Look for
the
"Back to top" links displaying inside the July calendar.

FYI, after updating to SP1, "Help", "About" returns this:

Microsoft Office Publisher 2003 (11.6255.6408) SP1
Part of Microsoft Office Small Business Edition 2003

:

The URL is www.bsatroop99.info. See the "Calendar" tab. Look for the
"Back
to top" links displaying in the wrong locations.

I guess I don't know if I am using SP1. "Help", "About" reports the
following:

Microsoft Office Publisher 2003 (11.5525.5606)
Part of Microsoft Office Small Business Edition 2003

Under tools, web page options, the PNG and VML boxes are unchecked.

Thanx.
Joel K.

:

Post a URL for review.

State if you are using Pub 2003 or Pub 2003 SP1.

State what settings the PNG and the VML options are set to under
tools,
web
options.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

HTML code fragments in a Publisher 2003 web page do not show up in
the
correct places. They are on top of other objects. The fragments
are
not
layered or part of any groups. They show up OK in Microsoft
Internet
Explorer version 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp.050301-1521 (128 bit) but do
not
show
up
correctly in version 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519 (128
bit).

Anyone have any ideas?

 

[Joel K.]

I don't know why that is a "red flag" but ok.

I even went so far as to remove any reference to font changes so now it is
just [a href="#_top"]Back to top.[/a] - (<> replaced with []) but it still
made no difference.

In the two different browser versions I compared the source HTML (visual
scan) and although I did not look at every single HTML statement I did
compare the HTML near the "Back to Top" text and they were identical. Seems
to me if the HTML source is the same then Publisher is generating the same
HTML and that the issue is with the browser.

Joel

To soon to know if it's a browser issue, a pub issue, a code issue, or a
design issue. Browsers have a lot of control to correct mistakes. I did see
a red flag in your code snippet. On the font size style, remove that "60%",
replace it with "10pt"
Then resave and republish.
If that doesn't correct it I'll probably just have to review your Publisher
file.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

The fragments are not layered or grouped with anything else. Design
checker
reports no errors. There are no columns on the Calendar page. No I did
not
delete all of the files before re-uploading the entire site, but I know
that
all the files updated because the dates and times changed (I double
checked
every single one). The code fragment boxes are longer than the code
fragment
itself. The actual code fragment is listed below with brackets substituted
for < and >.

[p style="font-family:arial;font-size:60%"][a href="#_top"]Back to
top.[/a][/p]

I want to point out again that on some versions of IE, the fragments
render
in the correct locations. On other versions of IE (see the first thread
for
exact version numbers) they do not. Doesn't that point to more of a
browser
issue than a Publisher issue?

Most likely the wayward fragments are layered with something, though that
be
not be noticeable to you. As DavidF pointed out, the design checker
(tools
menu) would be the way to check.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
http://www.publishermvps.com
http://www.davidbartosik.com

Turns out I did not have SP1 installed. However, after updating to
SP1, I
opened and resaved the doc, did another "Publish to the Web" and
re-uploaded
the entire site and there is no difference.

The "Back to Top" links are still in the wrong place. Again to view
the
problem go to www.bsatroop99.info and click on "Calendar". Look for
the
"Back to top" links displaying inside the July calendar.

FYI, after updating to SP1, "Help", "About" returns this:

Microsoft Office Publisher 2003 (11.6255.6408) SP1
Part of Microsoft Office Small Business Edition 2003

:

The URL is www.bsatroop99.info. See the "Calendar" tab. Look for the
"Back
to top" links displaying in the wrong locations.

I guess I don't know if I am using SP1. "Help", "About" reports the
following:

Microsoft Office Publisher 2003 (11.5525.5606)
Part of Microsoft Office Small Business Edition 2003

Under tools, web page options, the PNG and VML boxes are unchecked.

Thanx.
Joel K.

:

Post a URL for review.

State if you are using Pub 2003 or Pub 2003 SP1.

State what settings the PNG and the VML options are set to under
tools,
web
options.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

HTML code fragments in a Publisher 2003 web page do not show up in
the
correct places. They are on top of other objects. The fragments
are
not
layered or part of any groups. They show up OK in Microsoft
Internet
Explorer version 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp.050301-1521 (128 bit) but do
not
show
up
correctly in version 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519 (128
bit).

Anyone have any ideas?

 

[Joel K.]

I have given up on using Publisher for web pages. If I can't get consistent
rendering even with very minor version differences in Internet Explorer, then
how can I expect to get consistency with different browsers? I spent most of
today recreating and redeploying my entire site using something other than
Publisher.

I don't know why that is a "red flag" but ok.

I even went so far as to remove any reference to font changes so now it is
just [a href="#_top"]Back to top.[/a] - (<> replaced with []) but it still
made no difference.

In the two different browser versions I compared the source HTML (visual
scan) and although I did not look at every single HTML statement I did
compare the HTML near the "Back to Top" text and they were identical. Seems
to me if the HTML source is the same then Publisher is generating the same
HTML and that the issue is with the browser.

Joel

To soon to know if it's a browser issue, a pub issue, a code issue, or a
design issue. Browsers have a lot of control to correct mistakes. I did see
a red flag in your code snippet. On the font size style, remove that "60%",
replace it with "10pt"
Then resave and republish.
If that doesn't correct it I'll probably just have to review your Publisher
file.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

The fragments are not layered or grouped with anything else. Design
checker
reports no errors. There are no columns on the Calendar page. No I did
not
delete all of the files before re-uploading the entire site, but I know
that
all the files updated because the dates and times changed (I double
checked
every single one). The code fragment boxes are longer than the code
fragment
itself. The actual code fragment is listed below with brackets substituted
for < and >.

[p style="font-family:arial;font-size:60%"][a href="#_top"]Back to
top.[/a][/p]

I want to point out again that on some versions of IE, the fragments
render
in the correct locations. On other versions of IE (see the first thread
for
exact version numbers) they do not. Doesn't that point to more of a
browser
issue than a Publisher issue?

:

Most likely the wayward fragments are layered with something, though that
be
not be noticeable to you. As DavidF pointed out, the design checker
(tools
menu) would be the way to check.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
http://www.publishermvps.com
http://www.davidbartosik.com

Turns out I did not have SP1 installed. However, after updating to
SP1, I
opened and resaved the doc, did another "Publish to the Web" and
re-uploaded
the entire site and there is no difference.

The "Back to Top" links are still in the wrong place. Again to view
the
problem go to www.bsatroop99.info and click on "Calendar". Look for
the
"Back to top" links displaying inside the July calendar.

FYI, after updating to SP1, "Help", "About" returns this:

Microsoft Office Publisher 2003 (11.6255.6408) SP1
Part of Microsoft Office Small Business Edition 2003

:

The URL is www.bsatroop99.info. See the "Calendar" tab. Look for the
"Back
to top" links displaying in the wrong locations.

I guess I don't know if I am using SP1. "Help", "About" reports the
following:

Microsoft Office Publisher 2003 (11.5525.5606)
Part of Microsoft Office Small Business Edition 2003

Under tools, web page options, the PNG and VML boxes are unchecked.

Thanx.
Joel K.

:

Post a URL for review.

State if you are using Pub 2003 or Pub 2003 SP1.

State what settings the PNG and the VML options are set to under
tools,
web
options.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

HTML code fragments in a Publisher 2003 web page do not show up in
the
correct places. They are on top of other objects. The fragments
are
not
layered or part of any groups. They show up OK in Microsoft
Internet
Explorer version 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp.050301-1521 (128 bit) but do
not
show
up
correctly in version 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519 (128
bit).

Anyone have any ideas?