Building different permission based subsites for different custome

R

Richard

I've recently finished designing our company's website but the next step that
my CEO has asked for is can we create an area where distributors can log in
and order products with prices unique to them and contractors having a higher
price but the same products? I've read a little of the FAQ on permission
based subsites but I thought I would ask the experts before I spent too much
time going down the wrong alley. We'll probably add e-commerce to our site so
this may make a difference. Our new website is
http://www.filtrationmanufacturing.com if anyone wants to check it out. I'm
still a novice at web design even though I'm a photographer with graphics
experience.

Thanks,

Richard
 
D

David Berry

Password Protect Part of a Web: (Requires FrontPage extensions on
server, and host must support subwebs with unique permissions)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;301554 (FP2000)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;825451 (FP2003)

Protect individual pages: (Requires Windows Server with support for ASP
and Access database)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;825498


See http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;825451
Your host will have to support subwebs and unique permissions under the FP
Server Extensions

For another sample of using a database and ASP See
http://www.kamath.com/tutorials/tut003_auth.asp
 
R

Richard

David:

Thanks for all the helpful links to creating this. Our ISP has Front Page
extensions but I've asked them about sub webs and ASP support, etc. If they
do then would there be two separate subsites that would access two different
databases with unique prices based on their password access?

Here's how I would like it to work:

1. Wholeseller X logs in with universal password which takes him to either
an order form that uses an Access file for rates specific to this password.

2. Contractor X logs in with the contractor universal password which directs
them to a different order form that accesses a different rate database.

Is this the correct approach assuming that our ISP supports all the things
you state below?

Thanks for all your useful suggestions.

Richard

Thanks,

Richard
 
R

Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

I bet you can do it with one db and one subweb with the password somehow
pulling different pricing from different tables.




| David:
|
| Thanks for all the helpful links to creating this. Our ISP has Front Page
| extensions but I've asked them about sub webs and ASP support, etc. If
they
| do then would there be two separate subsites that would access two
different
| databases with unique prices based on their password access?
|
| Here's how I would like it to work:
|
| 1. Wholeseller X logs in with universal password which takes him to either
| an order form that uses an Access file for rates specific to this
password.
|
| 2. Contractor X logs in with the contractor universal password which
directs
| them to a different order form that accesses a different rate database.
|
| Is this the correct approach assuming that our ISP supports all the things
| you state below?
|
| Thanks for all your useful suggestions.
|
| Richard
|
| Thanks,
|
| Richard
|
| "David Berry" wrote:
|
| > Password Protect Part of a Web: (Requires FrontPage extensions on
| > server, and host must support subwebs with unique permissions)
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;301554 (FP2000)
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;825451 (FP2003)
| >
| > Protect individual pages: (Requires Windows Server with support for ASP
| > and Access database)
| > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;825498
| >
| >
| > See http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;825451
| > Your host will have to support subwebs and unique permissions under the
FP
| > Server Extensions
| >
| > For another sample of using a database and ASP See
| > http://www.kamath.com/tutorials/tut003_auth.asp
| >
| >
| > | > > I've recently finished designing our company's website but the next
step
| > > that
| > > my CEO has asked for is can we create an area where distributors can
log
| > > in
| > > and order products with prices unique to them and contractors having a
| > > higher
| > > price but the same products? I've read a little of the FAQ on
permission
| > > based subsites but I thought I would ask the experts before I spent
too
| > > much
| > > time going down the wrong alley. We'll probably add e-commerce to our
site
| > > so
| > > this may make a difference. Our new website is
| > > http://www.filtrationmanufacturing.com if anyone wants to check it
out.
| > > I'm
| > > still a novice at web design even though I'm a photographer with
graphics
| > > experience.
| > >
| > > Thanks,
| > >
| > > Richard
| >
| >
| >
 
R

Richard

That would be a tremendous help if I could. We have the products and rates in
Excel so it would be pretty easy to transfer it into Access. I talked to my
ISP today and he said something about using a coupon code but I don't know if
I like that approach. He also said that there server would support PHP, I
think, but not ASP. I'll have to read up on that to see how that affects
everything. The hard part about all this is where do you start. Build the
database first then begin to build the log in and the sub site. Anyway,
thanks for the suggestions.
 
R

Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

I don't think Access will work with PHP (I think you need MySql with PHP),
and if you have lots of users & products you may want to step up to sql or
something.


I've never done much with dbs on the internet...but there are plenty of
gurus here, like Kathleen (Spiderwoman) who can help ya.
You may want to repost this as a db question, she'll see it quicker that
way.



| That would be a tremendous help if I could. We have the products and rates
in
| Excel so it would be pretty easy to transfer it into Access. I talked to
my
| ISP today and he said something about using a coupon code but I don't know
if
| I like that approach. He also said that there server would support PHP, I
| think, but not ASP. I'll have to read up on that to see how that affects
| everything. The hard part about all this is where do you start. Build the
| database first then begin to build the log in and the sub site. Anyway,
| thanks for the suggestions.
|
| "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
|
| > I bet you can do it with one db and one subweb with the password somehow
| > pulling different pricing from different tables.
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > | > | David:
| > |
| > | Thanks for all the helpful links to creating this. Our ISP has Front
Page
| > | extensions but I've asked them about sub webs and ASP support, etc. If
| > they
| > | do then would there be two separate subsites that would access two
| > different
| > | databases with unique prices based on their password access?
| > |
| > | Here's how I would like it to work:
| > |
| > | 1. Wholeseller X logs in with universal password which takes him to
either
| > | an order form that uses an Access file for rates specific to this
| > password.
| > |
| > | 2. Contractor X logs in with the contractor universal password which
| > directs
| > | them to a different order form that accesses a different rate
database.
| > |
| > | Is this the correct approach assuming that our ISP supports all the
things
| > | you state below?
| > |
| > | Thanks for all your useful suggestions.
| > |
| > | Richard
| > |
| > | Thanks,
| > |
| > | Richard
| > |
| > | "David Berry" wrote:
| > |
| > | > Password Protect Part of a Web: (Requires FrontPage extensions on
| > | > server, and host must support subwebs with unique permissions)
| > | > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;301554
(FP2000)
| > | > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;825451
(FP2003)
| > | >
| > | > Protect individual pages: (Requires Windows Server with support for
ASP
| > | > and Access database)
| > | > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;825498
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > See http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;825451
| > | > Your host will have to support subwebs and unique permissions under
the
| > FP
| > | > Server Extensions
| > | >
| > | > For another sample of using a database and ASP See
| > | > http://www.kamath.com/tutorials/tut003_auth.asp
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | > | > > I've recently finished designing our company's website but the
next
| > step
| > | > > that
| > | > > my CEO has asked for is can we create an area where distributors
can
| > log
| > | > > in
| > | > > and order products with prices unique to them and contractors
having a
| > | > > higher
| > | > > price but the same products? I've read a little of the FAQ on
| > permission
| > | > > based subsites but I thought I would ask the experts before I
spent
| > too
| > | > > much
| > | > > time going down the wrong alley. We'll probably add e-commerce to
our
| > site
| > | > > so
| > | > > this may make a difference. Our new website is
| > | > > http://www.filtrationmanufacturing.com if anyone wants to check it
| > out.
| > | > > I'm
| > | > > still a novice at web design even though I'm a photographer with
| > graphics
| > | > > experience.
| > | > >
| > | > > Thanks,
| > | > >
| > | > > Richard
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
| >
 
S

Stefan B Rusynko

Can be done w/o a subweb using 1 DB w/ 3 price fields (public, wholesaler, contractor)
Your server side code determines what the login status is and then displays the correct price from the db

Can be done w/ PHP, but as Rob points out you will probably need to use a mySQl db as I suspect your host is not on a Windows Server
(required for ASP and Access)

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
_____________________________________________


| That would be a tremendous help if I could. We have the products and rates in
| Excel so it would be pretty easy to transfer it into Access. I talked to my
| ISP today and he said something about using a coupon code but I don't know if
| I like that approach. He also said that there server would support PHP, I
| think, but not ASP. I'll have to read up on that to see how that affects
| everything. The hard part about all this is where do you start. Build the
| database first then begin to build the log in and the sub site. Anyway,
| thanks for the suggestions.
|
| "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
|
| > I bet you can do it with one db and one subweb with the password somehow
| > pulling different pricing from different tables.
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > | > | David:
| > |
| > | Thanks for all the helpful links to creating this. Our ISP has Front Page
| > | extensions but I've asked them about sub webs and ASP support, etc. If
| > they
| > | do then would there be two separate subsites that would access two
| > different
| > | databases with unique prices based on their password access?
| > |
| > | Here's how I would like it to work:
| > |
| > | 1. Wholeseller X logs in with universal password which takes him to either
| > | an order form that uses an Access file for rates specific to this
| > password.
| > |
| > | 2. Contractor X logs in with the contractor universal password which
| > directs
| > | them to a different order form that accesses a different rate database.
| > |
| > | Is this the correct approach assuming that our ISP supports all the things
| > | you state below?
| > |
| > | Thanks for all your useful suggestions.
| > |
| > | Richard
| > |
| > | Thanks,
| > |
| > | Richard
| > |
| > | "David Berry" wrote:
| > |
| > | > Password Protect Part of a Web: (Requires FrontPage extensions on
| > | > server, and host must support subwebs with unique permissions)
| > | > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;301554 (FP2000)
| > | > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;825451 (FP2003)
| > | >
| > | > Protect individual pages: (Requires Windows Server with support for ASP
| > | > and Access database)
| > | > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;825498
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > See http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;825451
| > | > Your host will have to support subwebs and unique permissions under the
| > FP
| > | > Server Extensions
| > | >
| > | > For another sample of using a database and ASP See
| > | > http://www.kamath.com/tutorials/tut003_auth.asp
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | > | > > I've recently finished designing our company's website but the next
| > step
| > | > > that
| > | > > my CEO has asked for is can we create an area where distributors can
| > log
| > | > > in
| > | > > and order products with prices unique to them and contractors having a
| > | > > higher
| > | > > price but the same products? I've read a little of the FAQ on
| > permission
| > | > > based subsites but I thought I would ask the experts before I spent
| > too
| > | > > much
| > | > > time going down the wrong alley. We'll probably add e-commerce to our
| > site
| > | > > so
| > | > > this may make a difference. Our new website is
| > | > > http://www.filtrationmanufacturing.com if anyone wants to check it
| > out.
| > | > > I'm
| > | > > still a novice at web design even though I'm a photographer with
| > graphics
| > | > > experience.
| > | > >
| > | > > Thanks,
| > | > >
| > | > > Richard
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
| >
 
R

Richard

That sounds good. My ISP did say that he had a db loaded on his server so
I'll discuss what he has but it must be compatible with php. Again, thanks
for all the guidance and suggestions.

Stefan B Rusynko said:
Can be done w/o a subweb using 1 DB w/ 3 price fields (public, wholesaler, contractor)
Your server side code determines what the login status is and then displays the correct price from the db

Can be done w/ PHP, but as Rob points out you will probably need to use a mySQl db as I suspect your host is not on a Windows Server
(required for ASP and Access)

_____________________________________________
SBR @ ENJOY (-: [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
"Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!" (-;
_____________________________________________


| That would be a tremendous help if I could. We have the products and rates in
| Excel so it would be pretty easy to transfer it into Access. I talked to my
| ISP today and he said something about using a coupon code but I don't know if
| I like that approach. He also said that there server would support PHP, I
| think, but not ASP. I'll have to read up on that to see how that affects
| everything. The hard part about all this is where do you start. Build the
| database first then begin to build the log in and the sub site. Anyway,
| thanks for the suggestions.
|
| "Rob Giordano (Crash)" wrote:
|
| > I bet you can do it with one db and one subweb with the password somehow
| > pulling different pricing from different tables.
| >
| >
| >
| >
| > | > | David:
| > |
| > | Thanks for all the helpful links to creating this. Our ISP has Front Page
| > | extensions but I've asked them about sub webs and ASP support, etc. If
| > they
| > | do then would there be two separate subsites that would access two
| > different
| > | databases with unique prices based on their password access?
| > |
| > | Here's how I would like it to work:
| > |
| > | 1. Wholeseller X logs in with universal password which takes him to either
| > | an order form that uses an Access file for rates specific to this
| > password.
| > |
| > | 2. Contractor X logs in with the contractor universal password which
| > directs
| > | them to a different order form that accesses a different rate database.
| > |
| > | Is this the correct approach assuming that our ISP supports all the things
| > | you state below?
| > |
| > | Thanks for all your useful suggestions.
| > |
| > | Richard
| > |
| > | Thanks,
| > |
| > | Richard
| > |
| > | "David Berry" wrote:
| > |
| > | > Password Protect Part of a Web: (Requires FrontPage extensions on
| > | > server, and host must support subwebs with unique permissions)
| > | > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;301554 (FP2000)
| > | > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;825451 (FP2003)
| > | >
| > | > Protect individual pages: (Requires Windows Server with support for ASP
| > | > and Access database)
| > | > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;825498
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > See http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;825451
| > | > Your host will have to support subwebs and unique permissions under the
| > FP
| > | > Server Extensions
| > | >
| > | > For another sample of using a database and ASP See
| > | > http://www.kamath.com/tutorials/tut003_auth.asp
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > | > | > > I've recently finished designing our company's website but the next
| > step
| > | > > that
| > | > > my CEO has asked for is can we create an area where distributors can
| > log
| > | > > in
| > | > > and order products with prices unique to them and contractors having a
| > | > > higher
| > | > > price but the same products? I've read a little of the FAQ on
| > permission
| > | > > based subsites but I thought I would ask the experts before I spent
| > too
| > | > > much
| > | > > time going down the wrong alley. We'll probably add e-commerce to our
| > site
| > | > > so
| > | > > this may make a difference. Our new website is
| > | > > http://www.filtrationmanufacturing.com if anyone wants to check it
| > out.
| > | > > I'm
| > | > > still a novice at web design even though I'm a photographer with
| > graphics
| > | > > experience.
| > | > >
| > | > > Thanks,
| > | > >
| > | > > Richard
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
| >
 

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