Can the new Office 2007 beta version be run together with Office 2

A

Angelsdtp

Received this reply from a top rated MS Engineer, which is quite scary: "I
don't know what to tell you. You have to be very careful. Basically I would
only install them if you are willing to reformat your hard drive and
re-install if something goes wrong.…Its working fine for me right now." If
there is no going and something goes wrong--then what? Why bother trying?
And any forecasts as to the costs involved--it won't be free, will it?
 
J

JoAnn Paules [MVP]

THANK YOU!

I've been telling people that all along, as have several others but some
people are blinded by the cost of the beta. They have blocked out the fact
that betas can wreak havoc on your system and that it will cease to work on
a particular day. And I already know that most people are going to have
EXTREME difficulty going back top their previous versions of Office. It's
not going to be a simple, click, click, uninstall. Ta dum. There will be a
plethora of cuss words let loose into the world that day. (I've already told
people I'm unplugging my computer late in the evening of January 31 and it
will stay unplugged for about a week. I'm gonna hang out at the mall or do
volunteer work if I am not employed at that point.)
 
A

Angelsdtp

Greatly appreciate yur corroboration. Why oh why do they do this without
advising of the risk? It seems counter-productive and very bad public
relations.

JoAnn Paules said:
THANK YOU!

I've been telling people that all along, as have several others but some
people are blinded by the cost of the beta. They have blocked out the fact
that betas can wreak havoc on your system and that it will cease to work on
a particular day. And I already know that most people are going to have
EXTREME difficulty going back top their previous versions of Office. It's
not going to be a simple, click, click, uninstall. Ta dum. There will be a
plethora of cuss words let loose into the world that day. (I've already told
people I'm unplugging my computer late in the evening of January 31 and it
will stay unplugged for about a week. I'm gonna hang out at the mall or do
volunteer work if I am not employed at that point.)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Angelsdtp said:
Received this reply from a top rated MS Engineer, which is quite scary: "I
don't know what to tell you. You have to be very careful. Basically I
would
only install them if you are willing to reformat your hard drive and
re-install if something goes wrong..Its working fine for me right now." If
there is no going and something goes wrong--then what? Why bother trying?
And any forecasts as to the costs involved--it won't be free, will it?
 
J

JoAnn Paules [MVP]

There **are** warnings. People see the price (FREE) and lose their common
sense.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Angelsdtp said:
Greatly appreciate yur corroboration. Why oh why do they do this without
advising of the risk? It seems counter-productive and very bad public
relations.

JoAnn Paules said:
THANK YOU!

I've been telling people that all along, as have several others but some
people are blinded by the cost of the beta. They have blocked out the
fact
that betas can wreak havoc on your system and that it will cease to work
on
a particular day. And I already know that most people are going to have
EXTREME difficulty going back top their previous versions of Office. It's
not going to be a simple, click, click, uninstall. Ta dum. There will be
a
plethora of cuss words let loose into the world that day. (I've already
told
people I'm unplugging my computer late in the evening of January 31 and
it
will stay unplugged for about a week. I'm gonna hang out at the mall or
do
volunteer work if I am not employed at that point.)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Angelsdtp said:
Received this reply from a top rated MS Engineer, which is quite scary:
"I
don't know what to tell you. You have to be very careful. Basically I
would
only install them if you are willing to reformat your hard drive and
re-install if something goes wrong..Its working fine for me right now."
If
there is no going and something goes wrong--then what? Why bother
trying?
And any forecasts as to the costs involved--it won't be free, will it?
 
L

LVTravel

And JoAnn, just your luck that you will be volunteering at a
place that has installed Office 2007 Beta2.......lol

I actually think that I will be taking off the entire month,
if not the rest of the year. It's going to be a zoo out
there.....


JoAnn Paules said:
THANK YOU!

I've been telling people that all along, as have several
others but some people are blinded by the cost of the
beta. They have blocked out the fact that betas can wreak
havoc on your system and that it will cease to work on a
particular day. And I already know that most people are
going to have EXTREME difficulty going back top their
previous versions of Office. It's not going to be a
simple, click, click, uninstall. Ta dum. There will be a
plethora of cuss words let loose into the world that day.
(I've already told people I'm unplugging my computer late
in the evening of January 31 and it will stay unplugged
for about a week. I'm gonna hang out at the mall or do
volunteer work if I am not employed at that point.)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



message
Received this reply from a top rated MS Engineer, which
is quite scary: "I
don't know what to tell you. You have to be very careful.
Basically I would
only install them if you are willing to reformat your
hard drive and
re-install if something goes wrong..Its working fine for
me right now." If
there is no going and something goes wrong--then what?
Why bother trying?
And any forecasts as to the costs involved--it won't be
free, will it?
 
J

JoAnn Paules [MVP]

Yikes!!!

I know - those of us who have the sense not to run the beta on our
production systems should plan a get together. Someplace without computers!

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



LVTravel said:
And JoAnn, just your luck that you will be volunteering at a place that
has installed Office 2007 Beta2.......lol

I actually think that I will be taking off the entire month, if not the
rest of the year. It's going to be a zoo out there.....


JoAnn Paules said:
THANK YOU!

I've been telling people that all along, as have several others but some
people are blinded by the cost of the beta. They have blocked out the
fact that betas can wreak havoc on your system and that it will cease to
work on a particular day. And I already know that most people are going
to have EXTREME difficulty going back top their previous versions of
Office. It's not going to be a simple, click, click, uninstall. Ta dum.
There will be a plethora of cuss words let loose into the world that day.
(I've already told people I'm unplugging my computer late in the evening
of January 31 and it will stay unplugged for about a week. I'm gonna hang
out at the mall or do volunteer work if I am not employed at that point.)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Angelsdtp said:
Received this reply from a top rated MS Engineer, which is quite scary:
"I
don't know what to tell you. You have to be very careful. Basically I
would
only install them if you are willing to reformat your hard drive and
re-install if something goes wrong..Its working fine for me right now."
If
there is no going and something goes wrong--then what? Why bother
trying?
And any forecasts as to the costs involved--it won't be free, will it?
 
P

Patrick Schmid

I wouldn't paint that dark a picture on the technical feasibility of
installing it side-by-side with 2003.
I agree 100% on the cost issue though. People really seem to be blinded
and think they can get Office 2007 for free and I definitely will try to
be offline (similar to JoAnn) around February 1, when the beta version
expires and people post here pissed off at MS, because their free Office
doesn't work anymore...
As for doing a side-by-side install, it works reasonably well (with a
few glitches of course). You need to run a customized setup, make sure
to go through all tabs manually before pressing next and select keep all
previous versions. Notice that if you install Outlook 2007, Outlook 2003
will be uninstalled as no two versions of Outlook can ever be on the
same computer. Will it affect Office 2003 negatively? Maybe. The beta
build before Beta 2 managed to uninstall my Office 2003 speech engine.
Word 2003 always takes ownership of the doc extension whenever it is
opened and the only way to restore this to 2007 is by running office
diagnostics (there is a different way too, but it takes the same 20 mins
to do). Even if you uninstall 2007, you will still have traces on your
computer from it. So to really get completely rid of it, uninstalling
and then doing a system restore prior to the point 2007 was installed is
advisable.
Also, never ever run Office 2003 setup while 2007 is installed. If you
need to run 2003 setup, remove 2007 first.

If you want to have some fun with your computer, go ahead and do it. If
you rather want to have your computer 100% running all the time, don't
do it.

Patrick Schmid
--------------
http://pschmid.net

Greatly appreciate yur corroboration. Why oh why do they do this without
advising of the risk? It seems counter-productive and very bad public
relations.

JoAnn Paules said:
THANK YOU!

I've been telling people that all along, as have several others but some
people are blinded by the cost of the beta. They have blocked out the fact
that betas can wreak havoc on your system and that it will cease to work on
a particular day. And I already know that most people are going to have
EXTREME difficulty going back top their previous versions of Office. It's
not going to be a simple, click, click, uninstall. Ta dum. There will be a
plethora of cuss words let loose into the world that day. (I've already told
people I'm unplugging my computer late in the evening of January 31 and it
will stay unplugged for about a week. I'm gonna hang out at the mall or do
volunteer work if I am not employed at that point.)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Angelsdtp said:
Received this reply from a top rated MS Engineer, which is quite scary: "I
don't know what to tell you. You have to be very careful. Basically I
would
only install them if you are willing to reformat your hard drive and
re-install if something goes wrong..Its working fine for me right now." If
there is no going and something goes wrong--then what? Why bother trying?
And any forecasts as to the costs involved--it won't be free, will it?
 
L

LVTravel

But, mercy sakes, where would that be? Let me know and I'll
be there!

Right now I am in a hotel room, one laptop on the desk, and
two on the bed. One died because I was stupid enough to
pour a full LARGE Diet Coke into the keyboard - totally
accidentally btw. I needed that computer to do some
teaching. Still fires up but a few keys don't work now.
Bought another laptop and am now moving all the files.... I
have now also installed Office 4.3 Pro, Office 97 Pro,
Office 2000 SBE, Office XP S & T, and Office 2003 Pro on the
same machine. All Word, Excel and PPT programs work
together marvelously and I can even have them running side
by side (if you set up the startup file locations properly.)
I'm still staying away from 2007. I just refuse to put it on
a stable production system. If a computer is going to screw
up, let me be the one to do it, not my software.


JoAnn Paules said:
Yikes!!!

I know - those of us who have the sense not to run the
beta on our production systems should plan a get together.
Someplace without computers!

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



LVTravel said:
And JoAnn, just your luck that you will be volunteering
at a place that has installed Office 2007 Beta2.......lol

I actually think that I will be taking off the entire
month, if not the rest of the year. It's going to be a
zoo out there.....


in message
THANK YOU!

I've been telling people that all along, as have several
others but some people are blinded by the cost of the
beta. They have blocked out the fact that betas can
wreak havoc on your system and that it will cease to
work on a particular day. And I already know that most
people are going to have EXTREME difficulty going back
top their previous versions of Office. It's not going to
be a simple, click, click, uninstall. Ta dum. There will
be a plethora of cuss words let loose into the world
that day. (I've already told people I'm unplugging my
computer late in the evening of January 31 and it will
stay unplugged for about a week. I'm gonna hang out at
the mall or do volunteer work if I am not employed at
that point.)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



in message
Received this reply from a top rated MS Engineer, which
is quite scary: "I
don't know what to tell you. You have to be very
careful. Basically I would
only install them if you are willing to reformat your
hard drive and
re-install if something goes wrong..Its working fine
for me right now." If
there is no going and something goes wrong--then what?
Why bother trying?
And any forecasts as to the costs involved--it won't be
free, will it?
 
M

Milly Staples - MVP Outlook

From the Office Beta site:

About Beta Software
a.. Registration is required for participation.
b.. 2007 Microsoft Office system Beta 2 is for evaluation and planning
purposes only.
c.. Beta software does not necessarily display the same high level of
stability of shipped Microsoft products.
d.. Beta testers may experience problems with 2007 Microsoft Office system
Beta 2 products that could potentially result in loss, corruption, or
destruction of existing data.
e.. This beta testing release is not appropriate for production use.
f.. It is strongly recommended that you back up your existing data before
you install and run this software.
g.. Beta code is offered "as is," and does not include technical support.
h.. Many organizations have policies prohibiting unauthorized software
installation on company-owned computers. Make sure you check with your IT
department before downloading and installing 2007 Microsoft Office system
Beta 2 on your computer at work.
Please note points 3-5.


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Angelsdtp asked:

| Greatly appreciate yur corroboration. Why oh why do they do this
| without advising of the risk? It seems counter-productive and very
| bad public relations.
|
| "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:
|
|| THANK YOU!
||
|| I've been telling people that all along, as have several others but
|| some people are blinded by the cost of the beta. They have blocked
|| out the fact that betas can wreak havoc on your system and that it
|| will cease to work on a particular day. And I already know that most
|| people are going to have EXTREME difficulty going back top their
|| previous versions of Office. It's not going to be a simple, click,
|| click, uninstall. Ta dum. There will be a plethora of cuss words let
|| loose into the world that day. (I've already told people I'm
|| unplugging my computer late in the evening of January 31 and it will
|| stay unplugged for about a week. I'm gonna hang out at the mall or
|| do volunteer work if I am not employed at that point.)
||
|| --
||
|| JoAnn Paules
|| MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
||
||
||
|| ||| Received this reply from a top rated MS Engineer, which is quite
||| scary: "I don't know what to tell you. You have to be very careful.
||| Basically I would
||| only install them if you are willing to reformat your hard drive and
||| re-install if something goes wrong..Its working fine for me right
||| now." If there is no going and something goes wrong--then what?
||| Why bother trying? And any forecasts as to the costs involved--it
||| won't be free, will it?
 
J

JoAnn Paules [MVP]

Silly Milly. You can't seriously expect people to read things like that when
there's free software just a click away, can you?


(I saved that site as a .pdf two weeks ago.)
--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Milly Staples - MVP Outlook said:
From the Office Beta site:

About Beta Software
a.. Registration is required for participation.
b.. 2007 Microsoft Office system Beta 2 is for evaluation and planning
purposes only.
c.. Beta software does not necessarily display the same high level of
stability of shipped Microsoft products.
d.. Beta testers may experience problems with 2007 Microsoft Office
system
Beta 2 products that could potentially result in loss, corruption, or
destruction of existing data.
e.. This beta testing release is not appropriate for production use.
f.. It is strongly recommended that you back up your existing data before
you install and run this software.
g.. Beta code is offered "as is," and does not include technical support.
h.. Many organizations have policies prohibiting unauthorized software
installation on company-owned computers. Make sure you check with your IT
department before downloading and installing 2007 Microsoft Office system
Beta 2 on your computer at work.
Please note points 3-5.


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, Angelsdtp asked:

| Greatly appreciate yur corroboration. Why oh why do they do this
| without advising of the risk? It seems counter-productive and very
| bad public relations.
|
| "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:
|
|| THANK YOU!
||
|| I've been telling people that all along, as have several others but
|| some people are blinded by the cost of the beta. They have blocked
|| out the fact that betas can wreak havoc on your system and that it
|| will cease to work on a particular day. And I already know that most
|| people are going to have EXTREME difficulty going back top their
|| previous versions of Office. It's not going to be a simple, click,
|| click, uninstall. Ta dum. There will be a plethora of cuss words let
|| loose into the world that day. (I've already told people I'm
|| unplugging my computer late in the evening of January 31 and it will
|| stay unplugged for about a week. I'm gonna hang out at the mall or
|| do volunteer work if I am not employed at that point.)
||
|| --
||
|| JoAnn Paules
|| MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
||
||
||
|| ||| Received this reply from a top rated MS Engineer, which is quite
||| scary: "I don't know what to tell you. You have to be very careful.
||| Basically I would
||| only install them if you are willing to reformat your hard drive and
||| re-install if something goes wrong..Its working fine for me right
||| now." If there is no going and something goes wrong--then what?
||| Why bother trying? And any forecasts as to the costs involved--it
||| won't be free, will it?
 
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