Can you print an email before sending it?

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Sue

Is it possible to print an email before sending it? Someone claims to have
sent one to me last year, that I know I didn't receive. They've produced a
copy which has fields missing from the top, ie, date, From - (It does have To
and Subject). It is involved in a legal dispute now and I have to prove its
fake, I've pointed out the things that are obviously missing but they say it
was printed before it was emailed. They can no longer produce the original
from their email inbox. I have to produce Incontrovertible evidence that it
is fake and don't know how to do this, apart from the fact I know I'm right!
Can anyone help?
 
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tedmi

Yes, it is possible to print before sending, and the headers on the printout
will show only To, CC (if not blank) and Subject. Such a printout is not a
fake, but there is no way of telling whether the author did in fact send it
or cancelled it after printing.
 
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VanguardLH

Sue said:
Is it possible to print an email before sending it? Someone claims to have
sent one to me last year, that I know I didn't receive.
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And what is their (or your) point? There is NO GUARANTEED DELIVERY for
e-mail. If they wanted guaranteed delivery to prove that you received
their letter, they cannot use e-mail.
They've produced a
copy which has fields missing from the top, ie, date, From - (It does have To
and Subject).
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Then they should've used whatever method in their UNIDENTIFIED e-mail
client (that you use Outlook doesn't mean they do) to print out the
headers, too. However, none of the headers added by the mail host(s)
would be in their copy (because it is THEIR copy, not the recipient's
copy). Only the recipient will have the headers added to show that it
actually got to a sending mail host and that a receiving mail host
accepted it.
It is involved in a legal dispute now and I have to prove its
fake, I've pointed out the things that are obviously missing but they say it
was printed before it was emailed.
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Which would prove nothing that they actually sent it. It will contain
NO HEADERS from any mail host involved in actually transmitting that
e-mail.
They can no longer produce the original
from their email inbox.
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Then they need to get it from their backups. If they cannot provide the
original then it is not permissible as evidence in court (because anyone
can type up anything in Notepad and claim it was what they sent).
Because nothing of their copy will show headers added by mail hosts
involved in the transit of that message, they can never prove that they
actually sent it.
I have to produce Incontrovertible evidence that it
is fake
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Nope, other way around. THEY cannot prove incontrovertibly that their
claimed e-mail ever got sent. THEY cannot prove that you received it.
Unless they requested that you reply and that you actually did reply
(for which they WOULD have a copy of your e-mail along with the headers
adding by the mail hosts), they can't prove anything regarding delivery
of their e-mail. Only idiots think e-mail is a one-way communications
venue. If you don't get something back from them, you have nothing to
show that they got it.
 
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