Can't Send "tif" Image via Outlook Fax Service

[Bernard Luksich]

Here is the setup:
- Compose and message under Outlook 2002
- Attach a image file of type "tif"
- Send the message via "fax transport" (Microsoft's) to a
fax number
- Message immediately returns saying something like "fax
service can't render this type of document".

All other sorts of attachment go just fine as faxes with
no problem. I am thinking the problem has something to do
with Microsoft imaging program that is used when a "tif"
file is selected does not seem to have a "print"
or "printto" function listed.

Need some sort of resolution to this. Let me know.

Thanks in advance for the help.

 

[Loganathan R [MSFT]]

All fax attachments are rendered by their respective default application
before faxing. Are you sure that by double clicking the tiff file it
properly opens up in Microsoft Imaging program.
If so can you give which details about OS and Microsoft Imaging
application versions

--
Loganathan R
Microsoft Printing, Imaging and Fax Team
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Please do not send email directly to this alias. This alias is for newsgroup
purposes only.'

 

[Bernard Luksich]

Loganathan, thanks for the reply. Yes I did just check
that when I click directly on a "tif" file it opens the
Microsoft imaging program.

This is running Windows 2000 Professional with Office XP
loaded. The version of Microsoft Imaging that is running
shows as version 1.03.2349.1 on the "help-about" screen.

As I noted below, the Mircosoft Imaging program does not
seem to have a "printto" function...which might be why it
can not render the image.

Let me know.

Thanks in advance for your reply.

Bernie

 

[Bernard Luksich]

Thanks in advance for the help. Reading some of the other
posts leads me to believe other folks are having this
underlying problem. There seems to be questions that re-
sending faxes does not work correctly which might be
related to not having the image produced as you noted
below.

Thank, awaiting your results.

Bernie

-----Original Message-----
No updates. I'll check a Win 2K partition. The path statement does differ.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

Russ, thanks for the suggestion. I did create a "printto"
verb as you outlined below. However, the "shimgvw.dll"
generated a new error message "Error in c:\winnt\system32
\shingvw.dll missing entry ImageView_PrintTo." This is a
Windows 2000 Profession OS so maybe the parameters are
different? Let me know what you think.

Do you know if there are any updates to the FAX product
that might correct this?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Bernie

\shimgvw.dll,ImageView_PrintTo /pt wrote
in message why
it (Microsoft's)
to faxes
with something
to

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[Bernard Luksich]

Russ, thanks for the response. I made the changes you
suggested on definging a "printo" verb for the Microsoft
imaging software. The paths and all must have been
correct since the error message that was then generated
said "...shingvw.dll missing entry ImageView_PrintTo". So
I am not sure exactly why that is. As noted your solution
was based on Windows/XP and we are all running
Windows/2000 Professional. So perhaps there is a
different parameter.

I think this is close to fixing the problem and your
initial analysis was correct in that the image program is
not rendering the fax image to be sent.

We are pretty excited about getting this long standing
issue resolved (printing "tif" files to then be sent via a
hardcopy fax machine seems pretty lame right now!

Thanks

Bernie

-----Original Message-----
Are you asking for the path statement for Windows 2000, too?
I posted that a while back, but don't have it available right now.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

Thanks in advance for the help. Reading some of the other
posts leads me to believe other folks are having this
underlying problem. There seems to be questions that re-
sending faxes does not work correctly which might be
related to not having the image produced as you noted
below.

Thank, awaiting your results.

Bernie

-----Original Message-----
No updates. I'll check a Win 2K partition. The path statement does differ.

wrote
in message

Russ, thanks for the suggestion. I did create a "printto"
verb as you outlined below. However, the "shimgvw.dll"
generated a new error message "Error in c:\winnt\system32
\shingvw.dll missing entry ImageView_PrintTo." This

is
a

Windows 2000 Profession OS so maybe the parameters are
different? Let me know what you think.

Do you know if there are any updates to the FAX product
that might correct this?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Bernie

-----Original Message-----
So define the printto verb for TIF files.
For the XP version it is:
rundll32.exe <drive>:\WINDOWS\system32
\shimgvw.dll,ImageView_PrintTo /pt
"%1" "%2" "%3" "%4"

--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
in message
Loganathan, thanks for the reply. Yes I did just check
that when I click directly on a "tif" file it

opens
the

Microsoft imaging program.

This is running Windows 2000 Professional with Office XP
loaded. The version of Microsoft Imaging that is
running
shows as version 1.03.2349.1 on the "help-about" screen.

As I noted below, the Mircosoft Imaging program

does
not

seem to have a "printto" function...which might be why
it
can not render the image.

Let me know.

Thanks in advance for your reply.

Bernie

-----Original Message-----
All fax attachments are rendered by their respective
default application
before faxing. Are you sure that by double clicking
the
tiff file it
properly opens up in Microsoft Imaging program.
If so can you give which details about OS and
Microsoft Imaging
application versions

--
Loganathan R
Microsoft Printing, Imaging and Fax Team
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
and
confers no rights.
Please do not send email directly to this alias. This
alias is for newsgroup
purposes only.'

"Bernard Luksich"

wrote
in message
Here is the setup:
- Compose and message under Outlook 2002
- Attach a image file of type "tif"
- Send the message via "fax transport" (Microsoft's)
to
a
fax number
- Message immediately returns saying something
like "fax
service can't render this type of document".

All other sorts of attachment go just fine as faxes
with
no problem. I am thinking the problem has something
to
do
with Microsoft imaging program that is used when
a "tif"
file is selected does not seem to have a "print"
or "printto" function listed.

Need some sort of resolution to this. Let me know.

Thanks in advance for the help.



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[Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]]

Yes, it is a different path in Windows 2000, but it will be a while before
I'm on a partition where I can verify it. I've posted it before. Have you
searched in Google?
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

Russ, thanks for the response. I made the changes you
suggested on definging a "printo" verb for the Microsoft
imaging software. The paths and all must have been
correct since the error message that was then generated
said "...shingvw.dll missing entry ImageView_PrintTo". So
I am not sure exactly why that is. As noted your solution
was based on Windows/XP and we are all running
Windows/2000 Professional. So perhaps there is a
different parameter.

I think this is close to fixing the problem and your
initial analysis was correct in that the image program is
not rendering the fax image to be sent.

We are pretty excited about getting this long standing
issue resolved (printing "tif" files to then be sent via a
hardcopy fax machine seems pretty lame right now!

Thanks

Bernie

-----Original Message-----
Are you asking for the path statement for Windows 2000, too?
I posted that a while back, but don't have it available right now.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

Thanks in advance for the help. Reading some of the other
posts leads me to believe other folks are having this
underlying problem. There seems to be questions that re-
sending faxes does not work correctly which might be
related to not having the image produced as you noted
below.

Thank, awaiting your results.

Bernie

-----Original Message-----
No updates. I'll check a Win 2K partition. The path
statement does differ.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
in message

Russ, thanks for the suggestion. I did create
a "printto"
verb as you outlined below. However, the "shimgvw.dll"
generated a new error message "Error in
c:\winnt\system32
\shingvw.dll missing entry ImageView_PrintTo." This is
a
Windows 2000 Profession OS so maybe the parameters are
different? Let me know what you think.

Do you know if there are any updates to the FAX product
that might correct this?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Bernie

-----Original Message-----
So define the printto verb for TIF files.
For the XP version it is:
rundll32.exe <drive>:\WINDOWS\system32
\shimgvw.dll,ImageView_PrintTo /pt
"%1" "%2" "%3" "%4"

--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Bernard Luksich" <[email protected]>
wrote
in message
Loganathan, thanks for the reply. Yes I did just
check
that when I click directly on a "tif" file it opens
the
Microsoft imaging program.

This is running Windows 2000 Professional with
Office XP
loaded. The version of Microsoft Imaging that is
running
shows as version 1.03.2349.1 on the "help-about"
screen.

As I noted below, the Mircosoft Imaging program does
not
seem to have a "printto" function...which might be
why
it
can not render the image.

Let me know.

Thanks in advance for your reply.

Bernie

-----Original Message-----
All fax attachments are rendered by their respective
default application
before faxing. Are you sure that by double clicking
the
tiff file it
properly opens up in Microsoft Imaging program.
If so can you give which details about OS and
Microsoft Imaging
application versions

--
Loganathan R
Microsoft Printing, Imaging and Fax Team
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
and
confers no rights.
Please do not send email directly to this alias.
This
alias is for newsgroup
purposes only.'

"Bernard Luksich"

wrote
in message
Here is the setup:
- Compose and message under Outlook 2002
- Attach a image file of type "tif"
- Send the message via "fax transport"
(Microsoft's)
to
a
fax number
- Message immediately returns saying something
like "fax
service can't render this type of document".

All other sorts of attachment go just fine as
faxes
with
no problem. I am thinking the problem has
something
to
do
with Microsoft imaging program that is used when
a "tif"
file is selected does not seem to have a "print"
or "printto" function listed.

Need some sort of resolution to this. Let me
know.

Thanks in advance for the help.



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.



.

.

 

[Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]]

Here it is:
"<drive>:\Program Files\Windows NT\Accessories\ImageVue\KodakPrv.exe" /pt
"%1" "%2" "%3" "%4"
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

Russ, thanks for the response. I made the changes you
suggested on definging a "printo" verb for the Microsoft
imaging software. The paths and all must have been
correct since the error message that was then generated
said "...shingvw.dll missing entry ImageView_PrintTo". So
I am not sure exactly why that is. As noted your solution
was based on Windows/XP and we are all running
Windows/2000 Professional. So perhaps there is a
different parameter.

I think this is close to fixing the problem and your
initial analysis was correct in that the image program is
not rendering the fax image to be sent.

We are pretty excited about getting this long standing
issue resolved (printing "tif" files to then be sent via a
hardcopy fax machine seems pretty lame right now!

Thanks

Bernie

-----Original Message-----
Are you asking for the path statement for Windows 2000, too?
I posted that a while back, but don't have it available right now.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

Thanks in advance for the help. Reading some of the other
posts leads me to believe other folks are having this
underlying problem. There seems to be questions that re-
sending faxes does not work correctly which might be
related to not having the image produced as you noted
below.

Thank, awaiting your results.

Bernie

-----Original Message-----
No updates. I'll check a Win 2K partition. The path
statement does differ.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
in message

Russ, thanks for the suggestion. I did create
a "printto"
verb as you outlined below. However, the "shimgvw.dll"
generated a new error message "Error in
c:\winnt\system32
\shingvw.dll missing entry ImageView_PrintTo." This is
a
Windows 2000 Profession OS so maybe the parameters are
different? Let me know what you think.

Do you know if there are any updates to the FAX product
that might correct this?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Bernie

-----Original Message-----
So define the printto verb for TIF files.
For the XP version it is:
rundll32.exe <drive>:\WINDOWS\system32
\shimgvw.dll,ImageView_PrintTo /pt
"%1" "%2" "%3" "%4"

--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
"Bernard Luksich" <[email protected]>
wrote
in message
Loganathan, thanks for the reply. Yes I did just
check
that when I click directly on a "tif" file it opens
the
Microsoft imaging program.

This is running Windows 2000 Professional with
Office XP
loaded. The version of Microsoft Imaging that is
running
shows as version 1.03.2349.1 on the "help-about"
screen.

As I noted below, the Mircosoft Imaging program does
not
seem to have a "printto" function...which might be
why
it
can not render the image.

Let me know.

Thanks in advance for your reply.

Bernie

-----Original Message-----
All fax attachments are rendered by their respective
default application
before faxing. Are you sure that by double clicking
the
tiff file it
properly opens up in Microsoft Imaging program.
If so can you give which details about OS and
Microsoft Imaging
application versions

--
Loganathan R
Microsoft Printing, Imaging and Fax Team
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
and
confers no rights.
Please do not send email directly to this alias.
This
alias is for newsgroup
purposes only.'

"Bernard Luksich"

wrote
in message
Here is the setup:
- Compose and message under Outlook 2002
- Attach a image file of type "tif"
- Send the message via "fax transport"
(Microsoft's)
to
a
fax number
- Message immediately returns saying something
like "fax
service can't render this type of document".

All other sorts of attachment go just fine as
faxes
with
no problem. I am thinking the problem has
something
to
do
with Microsoft imaging program that is used when
a "tif"
file is selected does not seem to have a "print"
or "printto" function listed.

Need some sort of resolution to this. Let me
know.

Thanks in advance for the help.



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.



.

.

 

[Bernard Luksich]

Russ, it looks like this has fixed the problem. I did a
forward of a inbound fax and instead of the error message
we usually get, it showed the printing taking place and
the outbound fax was generated.

This fixes a problem we have had for over a year! Thanks
so much for your follow-up over these few weeks.

I am not sure how the "printto" function was lost perhaps
the installation of Office XP replaced the Kodak image
viewer with the MicroSoft Office version or something like
that...since this is a parameter we would not be modifying
for any reason.

Thanks again...your help is really appreciated...hopefully
some day we can return the favor!

Bernie

-----Original Message-----
Here it is:
"<drive>:\Program Files\Windows

NT\Accessories\ImageVue\KodakPrv.exe" /pt

"%1" "%2" "%3" "%4"
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]

Russ, thanks for the response. I made the changes you
suggested on definging a "printo" verb for the Microsoft
imaging software. The paths and all must have been
correct since the error message that was then generated
said "...shingvw.dll missing entry ImageView_PrintTo". So
I am not sure exactly why that is. As noted your solution
was based on Windows/XP and we are all running
Windows/2000 Professional. So perhaps there is a
different parameter.

I think this is close to fixing the problem and your
initial analysis was correct in that the image program is
not rendering the fax image to be sent.

We are pretty excited about getting this long standing
issue resolved (printing "tif" files to then be sent via a
hardcopy fax machine seems pretty lame right now!

Thanks

Bernie

-----Original Message-----
Are you asking for the path statement for Windows 2000, too?
I posted that a while back, but don't have it available right now.

wrote
in message

Thanks in advance for the help. Reading some of the other
posts leads me to believe other folks are having this
underlying problem. There seems to be questions that re-
sending faxes does not work correctly which might be
related to not having the image produced as you noted
below.

Thank, awaiting your results.

Bernie

-----Original Message-----
No updates. I'll check a Win 2K partition. The path
statement does differ.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
in message

Russ, thanks for the suggestion. I did create
a "printto"
verb as you outlined below. However, the "shimgvw.dll"
generated a new error message "Error in
c:\winnt\system32
\shingvw.dll missing entry ImageView_PrintTo."

This
is

a
Windows 2000 Profession OS so maybe the parameters are
different? Let me know what you think.

Do you know if there are any updates to the FAX product
that might correct this?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Bernie

-----Original Message-----
So define the printto verb for TIF files.
For the XP version it is:
rundll32.exe <drive>:\WINDOWS\system32
\shimgvw.dll,ImageView_PrintTo /pt
"%1" "%2" "%3" "%4"

wrote
in message
Loganathan, thanks for the reply. Yes I did just
check
that when I click directly on a "tif" file it opens
the
Microsoft imaging program.

This is running Windows 2000 Professional with
Office XP
loaded. The version of Microsoft Imaging that is
running
shows as version 1.03.2349.1 on the "help- about"
screen.

As I noted below, the Mircosoft Imaging program does
not
seem to have a "printto" function...which might be
why
it
can not render the image.

Let me know.

Thanks in advance for your reply.

Bernie

-----Original Message-----
All fax attachments are rendered by their respective
default application
before faxing. Are you sure that by double clicking
the
tiff file it
properly opens up in Microsoft Imaging program.
If so can you give which details about OS and
Microsoft Imaging
application versions

--
Loganathan R
Microsoft Printing, Imaging and Fax Team
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
and
confers no rights.
Please do not send email directly to this alias.
This
alias is for newsgroup
purposes only.'

"Bernard Luksich"

wrote
in message
Here is the setup:
- Compose and message under Outlook 2002
- Attach a image file of type "tif"
- Send the message via "fax transport"
(Microsoft's)
to
a
fax number
- Message immediately returns saying something
like "fax
service can't render this type of document".

All other sorts of attachment go just fine as
faxes
with
no problem. I am thinking the problem has
something
to
do
with Microsoft imaging program that is used when
a "tif"
file is selected does not seem to have a "print"
or "printto" function listed.

Need some sort of resolution to this. Let me
know.

Thanks in advance for the help.



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