can't use office 2007 trial / xp

[CShea]

This is related to, but not identical, other posts on this subject.

I have an old Dell Latitude D600, with a licensed copy of Office '03
on it. I downloaded a trial for Office Pro '07 and it immediately
informed me that it had expired in 2002.

Suggestions to others have been to remove all traces of earlier Office
trials from the computer--but I obvsly don't want to delete my working
copy of Office, which I may well decide to keep. (I'm curious about
Office 2007 performance on this old machine.)

how to make the trial work?

 

[LD55ZRA]

This is related to, but not identical, other posts on this subject.

I have an old Dell Latitude D600, with a licensed copy of Office '03
on it. I downloaded a trial for Office Pro '07 and it immediately
informed me that it had expired in 2002.

Suggestions to others have been to remove all traces of earlier Office
trials from the computer--but I obvsly don't want to delete my working
copy of Office, which I may well decide to keep. (I'm curious about
Office 2007 performance on this old machine.)

how to make the trial work?

An insider at Microsoft UK has told me that Trial versions of Office
2007 are not supposed to be on Microsoft Website because they want
everybody to start using Office 2010 Beta. I am also curious as to why
XP is giving you the problem because this problem is only applicable on
Windows 7 system. Are you sure you don't have any compatibility packs
for Office 2007 on the system?

hth


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[Jeff Strickland]

This is related to, but not identical, other posts on this subject.

I have an old Dell Latitude D600, with a licensed copy of Office '03
on it. I downloaded a trial for Office Pro '07 and it immediately
informed me that it had expired in 2002.

Suggestions to others have been to remove all traces of earlier Office
trials from the computer--but I obvsly don't want to delete my working
copy of Office, which I may well decide to keep. (I'm curious about
Office 2007 performance on this old machine.)

how to make the trial work?

It doesn't work until you remove the old version of Office.

My two cents on the upgrade, don't do it. I used Office 07 and did not like
it at all. If I had a job that required me to use it, then I'd be able to
figure it out, but since I can do what I want wneh I want, I have no
interest in trying to figure out where they moved everything.

You may want to look at the System Requirements for Office '07 to be sure
that your old Dell will support it. If it's too old, '07 will not run on it
anyhow.

If '07 will run on your Dell, then you have to uninstall '03 to install '07.
If you don't like '07, then you have to uninstall it before you can go back
to '03, and you must have the '03 CDs to do the reinstall. AND if your copy
of Office '03 is an Upgrade Version, then you must retain access to the
qualitfied basis for an upgrade -- you have to read the list of qualified
basis products that's on the box the upgrade comes in. After all of that,
you need the Product Key for your copy of Office '03 if you want to
reinstall it.

 

[Yves Dhondt]

An insider at Microsoft UK has told me that Trial versions of Office 2007
are not supposed to be on Microsoft Website because they want everybody to
start using Office 2010 Beta. I am also curious as to why XP is giving
you the problem because this problem is only applicable on Windows 7
system. Are you sure you don't have any compatibility packs for Office
2007 on the system?

hth


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Copyright LD55ZRA 2010.

I would be surprised if that insider is correct. There is a big difference
between a trial and a beta.

A trial product is supposed to be stable and can be used in production
environment. A beta product is 'allowed' to be unstable and should not be
used in a production environment.

Yves

 

[LD55ZRA]

I would be surprised if that insider is correct. There is a big
difference between a trial and a beta.

A trial product is supposed to be stable and can be used in production
environment. A beta product is 'allowed' to be unstable and should not
be used in a production environment.

Yves

You seem to know very little about trial versions? Trial versions are
the "final" beta versions which are sometimes sold in shops to cover the
cost of development. There is absolutely no guarantee that trial
versions will be stable in any shape or form because they are given out
for people to know what a product can do for them. They cannot be
relied upon to be stable. That is why hackers and crackers tend to go
for these to "reverse engineer" these programs because they are easy to
crack and the security is pretty much amateurish!

I hope this clarifies any doubts you may have had.

hth

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[Yves Dhondt]

You seem to know very little about trial versions? Trial versions are the
"final" beta versions which are sometimes sold in shops to cover the cost
of development. There is absolutely no guarantee that trial versions will
be stable in any shape or form because they are given out for people to
know what a product can do for them. They cannot be relied upon to be
stable. That is why hackers and crackers tend to go for these to "reverse
engineer" these programs because they are easy to crack and the security
is pretty much amateurish!

I hope this clarifies any doubts you may have had.

hth

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Copyright LD55ZRA 2010.

That is untrue.

A normal complete software development cycle is:
pre-alpha > alpha > beta (private/public) > release candidates
(private/public) > final > trial/demo

Smaller programs will not always cover all these steps.

Anyway, the reason 'why hackers and crackers tend to go for these to
"reverse engineer" these programs' is because trials/demos contain all the
functionality in the code. Some functionality is just not accessible in the
trial/demo or the use is limited in time. As all the functionality is in the
code, all your 'hackers and crackers' have to do is remove the limitations
to get full working versions. If the product would be a beta, they would
have to fix the program rather than circumvent the security... If the latter
were the case, they would be better of writing the program themselves

If a beta version of your software crashes whenever I use it, I would still
be inclined to try your final product if it contains some 'must have'
features. However, if the trial version of your software crashes whenever I
use it, I would never buy your product, no matter how good the promised
features are.

Yves

 

[LD55ZRA]

That is untrue.

A normal complete software development cycle is:
pre-alpha > alpha > beta (private/public) > release candidates
(private/public) > final > trial/demo

Smaller programs will not always cover all these steps.

Anyway, the reason 'why hackers and crackers tend to go for these to
"reverse engineer" these programs' is because trials/demos contain all the
functionality in the code. Some functionality is just not accessible in the
trial/demo or the use is limited in time. As all the functionality is in the
code, all your 'hackers and crackers' have to do is remove the limitations
to get full working versions. If the product would be a beta, they would
have to fix the program rather than circumvent the security... If the latter
were the case, they would be better of writing the program themselves

If a beta version of your software crashes whenever I use it, I would still
be inclined to try your final product if it contains some 'must have'
features. However, if the trial version of your software crashes whenever I
use it, I would never buy your product, no matter how good the promised
features are.

Yves

Are you seriously trying to tell us that final products don't
crash? Also, why did microsoft release 142 patches for Windows 7
in a such a short period? This is because Win7 in the shops was a
beta version rebranded as released version. I know this because I
have worked for Microsoft UK and I am still in contact with people
I used to work with. I have nothing else to say on this matter.

hth



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LIMITATION OF LIABILITY FOR CONSEQUENTIAL OR INCIDENTAL
DAMAGES SO THE FOREGOING LIMITATION MAY NOT APPLY.

Copyright LD55ZRA 2010.

 

[Yves Dhondt]

Are you seriously trying to tell us that final products don't
crash? Also, why did microsoft release 142 patches for Windows 7
in a such a short period? This is because Win7 in the shops was a
beta version rebranded as released version. I know this because I
have worked for Microsoft UK and I am still in contact with people
I used to work with. I have nothing else to say on this matter.

hth



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Copyright LD55ZRA 2010.

Basically you are saying, Microsoft released a 'beta', then they made a
'release candidate' that fixed a number of the 'beta' issues, and then they
decided to bring out that earlier 'beta' as a final product.

At least say they rebranded a 'release candidate' as the final 'release'. I
doubt that is the case, but it is possible, after all, the name 'release
candidate' means that it could be final.

Yves

 

[LD55ZRA]

Basically you are saying, Microsoft released a 'beta', then they made
a 'release candidate' that fixed a number of the 'beta' issues, and
then they decided to bring out that earlier 'beta' as a final product.

You got it at last my dear good friend!

At least say they rebranded a 'release candidate' as the final
'release'. I doubt that is the case, but it is possible, after all,
the name 'release candidate' means that it could be final.

Well such information is normally a commercial secret and the only way
to know is to compare the beta version and the so called final" RC by
listing the files and size of each files. I did that for Windows 7 and
the Beta version I had and the final RC version were almost identical.
The only difference was in the setup.exe file but I expected that
because they had to tighten up on security of serial numbers and
activation code. With Win7 the activation code has changed completely.
With OEM versions (I had Dell branded DVD) the dates have changed but
the size of the files is still the same. HP refused to supply me with
their re-installation DVD saying they are not allowed to under their new
license terms with M$. They only gave me a CD that can reset the system
to factory settings with it. I generally like to have an actual
re-installation CD/DVD of the OS because I control everything what is
installed on my system.

Yves

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DAMAGES. SOME STATES DO NOT ALLOW THE EXCLUSION OR
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DAMAGES SO THE FOREGOING LIMITATION MAY NOT APPLY.

Copyright LD55ZRA 2010.

 

[Peter Foldes]

Yves

You are correct .Yes that is the order and it always was and will be. I have
learned to ignore LD55ZRA because on occasions he is way off with his answers as he
is here

 

[Average Idiot]

I downloaded a trial for Office Pro '07 and it immediately
informed me that it had expired in 2002.

Check out a fix on http://www.johnje.com/fixofficetrial.html