Chinese Characters

[Harlan]

I used Excel 4.0 on Mac OS 9 and kept a column of Chinese Names which I
input directly, Now Id have Mac OS X and Office X, but find that I cannot
input Chinese characters in Excel, though I can do so perfectly in Word. In
the previous setup, I could copy Chinese characters from Word into Excel,
but that is not working with OS X and Office X. I've found no documentation
for this. I can switch to Japanese and then input Chinese characters, but not
all the characters are available, and all the menus are then in Japanese. Most
annoying. Any help?

 

[Corentin Cras-Méneur [MVP]]

Hi,

I used Excel 4.0 on Mac OS 9 and kept a column of Chinese Names which I
input directly, Now Id have Mac OS X and Office X, but find that I cannot
input Chinese characters in Excel, though I can do so perfectly in Word. In
the previous setup, I could copy Chinese characters from Word into Excel,
but that is not working with OS X and Office X. I've found no documentation
for this. I can switch to Japanese and then input Chinese characters, but not
all the characters are available, and all the menus are then in Japanese. Most
annoying. Any help?

I sus pect that all your problems are related to the fact that OFfice X
doesn't support Unicode characters and that the Chinese characters you
need are not part of the set of Japanese characters you can input in
Office. I'm not sure there is a workaround for that. I fear that you;'ll
have to wait fro Office 2004 which should offer full Unicode support...


Corentin

 

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Hi,


I sus pect that all your problems are related to the fact that OFfice X
doesn't support Unicode characters and that the Chinese characters you
need are not part of the set of Japanese characters you can input in
Office. I'm not sure there is a workaround for that. I fear that you;'ll
have to wait fro Office 2004 which should offer full Unicode support...


Corentin




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Thanks for the input. The mystery is that I CAN imput all the Simplified
Chinese in Word, but not in Excel. You'd think this would be uniform
throughout Office X.
Harlan>

 

[Corentin Cras-Méneur [MVP]]

Thanks for the input. The mystery is that I CAN imput all the Simplified
Chinese in Word, but not in Excel. You'd think this would be uniform
throughout Office X.

I really don't know much about Chinese but aren't these characters also
part of one of the Japanese alphabet ??? That might explain a lot...


Corentin

 

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I really don't know much about Chinese but aren't these characters also
part of one of the Japanese alphabet ??? That might explain a lot...


Corentin


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Xia Xia, but..... No, Chinese and Japanese are NOT the same. Some

characters in japances look like the same character in Chinese but mean
something different. Many Chinese characters do not exist in Japanese.
Many Japanese characters do not exist in Chinese. My Chinese students tell
me that learning Japanese is more difficult for them than learning English.
Now if Microsoft would just fix Excel to accept other Asian besides stuff
from Tokyo, I'd be happy.

 

[Corentin Cras-Méneur [MVP]]

characters in japances look like the same character in Chinese but mean
something different.

Well, that's my point. If you need to type these characters, you can
still use the Japanese fonts.

Many Chinese characters do not exist in Japanese.

I am well aware of that. I was just looking for an explanation for the
mention in the original post mentioning that you could type Chinese
characters in Word X already.

Many Japanese characters do not exist in Chinese. My Chinese students tell
me that learning Japanese is more difficult for them than learning English.
Now if Microsoft would just fix Excel to accept other Asian besides stuff
from Tokyo, I'd be happy.

I believe it's coming in Office 2004... It shoudl be fully unicode
compliant. All you'll need is a font with Chinese characters (and the
system provides some already).


Corentin

 

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Well, that's my point. If you need to type these characters, you can
still use the Japanese fonts.


I am well aware of that. I was just looking for an explanation for the
mention in the original post mentioning that you could type Chinese
characters in Word X already.



I believe it's coming in Office 2004... It shoudl be fully unicode
compliant. All you'll need is a font with Chinese characters (and the
system provides some already).


Corentin




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???Zhang) is an example of a character that I can type easily in this

browser, in Word, and in Entourage, but not in Excel X, though I could type it
in Excel 4. And ? is a very common Chinese surname. Either Office should
support this or it shouldn't. It's stupid for this to work ikn Word, Entourage,
Explorer, and not in Exel. I think there must be some setting that I'm missing in
the Excel programl, a switch to set or something. I probably won't buy Office
2004.

 

[Corentin Cras-Méneur [MVP]]

???Zhang) is an example of a character that I can type easily in this
browser, in Word, and in Entourage, but not in Excel X, though I could
type it in Excel 4.

Yeah, but MacOS 9 really deals with unicode on a differnet level.
The problem migth reside in the Language Register app which might not
work for Excel but I can't even test that since this tool has simply
never been made available for the French version of Office I use :-\

And ? is a very common Chinese surname. Either Office should support this
or it shouldn't. It's stupid for this to work ikn Word, Entourage,
Explorer, and not in Exel. I think there must be some setting that I'm
missing in the Excel programl, a switch to set or something. I probably
won't buy Office 2004.

The problem is quite differnet for Office 2004. It will natively support
the full range of unicode so you should be able to enter any character
from any alphabet providing you have a font offering it.

Corentin