disappearing pictures

D

david

picture disappear after a while and will not reappear version 2003 even throught their outline is still their and a little box with x in help please any ideas
 
S

Steve Easton

Always make sure you open your web in FrontPage,
then import your images when using Folder View.
Then link to your images.

The images *must* be in a location *inside* your web.

hth

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david said:
picture disappear after a while and will not reappear version 2003 even
throught their outline is still their and a little box with x in help please
any ideas
 
J

Jim Buyens

-----Original Message-----
picture disappear after a while and will not reappear
version 2003 even throught their outline is still their
and a little box with x in help please any ideas.

Is this in FrontPage or in IE?

If IE, well, this is an IE bug. It usually affects small
pictures, such as 16x16 pixels, that appear in tables.

To work around this, add as script such as this:

<script>
var bug = new Image(); bug.src = "../images/bug.gif";
</script>

to the <head> section of your page. Of course, you should
change bug and bug.gif to the name of your picture, and
adjust the relative path as necessary.

Repeat this pair of statement for each small picture that
fails intermittently to appear.

Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
http://www.interlacken.com
Author of:
*----------------------------------------------------
|\---------------------------------------------------
|| Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
||---------------------------------------------------
|| Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
|| Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
|| Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
|| (All from Microsoft Press)
|/---------------------------------------------------
*----------------------------------------------------
 
D

david

yes it in f.p and it happens to larger pics as well also all are in are in a folder inside website

----- Jim Buyens wrote: ----
-----Original Message----
picture disappear after a while and will not reappea
version 2003 even throught their outline is still thei
and a little box with x in help please any ideas

Is this in FrontPage or in IE

If IE, well, this is an IE bug. It usually affects small
pictures, such as 16x16 pixels, that appear in tables

To work around this, add as script such as this

<script
var bug = new Image(); bug.src = "../images/bug.gif"
</script

to the <head> section of your page. Of course, you should
change bug and bug.gif to the name of your picture, and
adjust the relative path as necessary

Repeat this pair of statement for each small picture that
fails intermittently to appear

Jim Buyen
Microsoft FrontPage MV
http://www.interlacken.co
Author of
*---------------------------------------------------
|\--------------------------------------------------
|| Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Ou
||--------------------------------------------------
|| Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Editio
|| Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Ou
|| Faster Smarter Beginning Programmin
|| (All from Microsoft Press
|/--------------------------------------------------
*---------------------------------------------------
 
W

wp

Steve, Stefan, Jim, Thomas
Thank you for all the help
One thing that you all seem to adhere to is the act of "importing" a file or photo
I browse to "my pictures" and select a photo to insert in a page, and when I save the page, there is a dialog box that asks me where I want to save, change folder, modify the pic, etc. NEVER had a problem with that. Same holds true if I copy, cut/paste, drag/drop, using explorer, FP always found it, pointed to it correctly, and published all the new files
For other files as well as pics, this has worked. Many times I have "saved as" (as in email attachment) and sent directly to a web folder without any prob whatsover. The only time I had a prob was on restoring a file from a published web backup on my HD. I found that even "importing" fouled up the hyperlinks
So, I question the "import" file requirement vs drag/drop et-el. IMHO Do we really need to "import"
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

I have always used the "import" (drag/drop) into the current open FP web,
since 1997 when I started working with FP98 and have never had any problems
with images or any other files.

When you "import" a image file directly into the FP web, you avoid having FP
modify the quality of the image.

Also by importing first, you are assured that the link to the image or file
will always be relative to the web and not back to the original location on
your HD, since the web must have been open first.

--

==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, Forums, WebCircle,
MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================


wp said:
Steve, Stefan, Jim, Thomas,
Thank you for all the help.
One thing that you all seem to adhere to is the act of "importing" a file or photo.
I browse to "my pictures" and select a photo to insert in a page, and when
I save the page, there is a dialog box that asks me where I want to save,
change folder, modify the pic, etc. NEVER had a problem with that. Same
holds true if I copy, cut/paste, drag/drop, using explorer, FP always found
it, pointed to it correctly, and published all the new files.
For other files as well as pics, this has worked. Many times I have
"saved as" (as in email attachment) and sent directly to a web folder
without any prob whatsover. The only time I had a prob was on restoring a
file from a published web backup on my HD. I found that even "importing"
fouled up the hyperlinks.
So, I question the "import" file requirement vs drag/drop et-el. IMHO Do
we really need to "import"
 
T

Tom Pepper Willett

By selecting a file from "My Pictures" and having FP ask you where to save
it, FP actually messes with the quality of the image. You don't want that.
;-) Importing will eliminate that.
--
-----
Tom Pepper Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
----
| Steve, Stefan, Jim, Thomas,
| Thank you for all the help.
| One thing that you all seem to adhere to is the act of "importing" a file
or photo.
| I browse to "my pictures" and select a photo to insert in a page, and when
I save the page, there is a dialog box that asks me where I want to save,
change folder, modify the pic, etc. NEVER had a problem with that. Same
holds true if I copy, cut/paste, drag/drop, using explorer, FP always found
it, pointed to it correctly, and published all the new files.
| For other files as well as pics, this has worked. Many times I have
"saved as" (as in email attachment) and sent directly to a web folder
without any prob whatsover. The only time I had a prob was on restoring a
file from a published web backup on my HD. I found that even "importing"
fouled up the hyperlinks.
| So, I question the "import" file requirement vs drag/drop et-el. IMHO Do
we really need to "import"
 
S

Steve Easton

I always copy and paste into
a FrontPage folder using folder view.
Always have from day 1, back with FP98.

--
using 2k PRO but....95isalive
This site is best viewed............
........................with a computer

wp said:
Steve, Stefan, Jim, Thomas,
Thank you for all the help.
One thing that you all seem to adhere to is the act of "importing" a file or photo.
I browse to "my pictures" and select a photo to insert in a page, and when
I save the page, there is a dialog box that asks me where I want to save,
change folder, modify the pic, etc. NEVER had a problem with that. Same
holds true if I copy, cut/paste, drag/drop, using explorer, FP always found
it, pointed to it correctly, and published all the new files.
For other files as well as pics, this has worked. Many times I have
"saved as" (as in email attachment) and sent directly to a web folder
without any prob whatsover. The only time I had a prob was on restoring a
file from a published web backup on my HD. I found that even "importing"
fouled up the hyperlinks.
So, I question the "import" file requirement vs drag/drop et-el. IMHO Do
we really need to "import"
 
W

wp

Which is the same as if using explorer cut/paste, drag drop right? Doesn't all windows programs utilize explorer as the shell for file management. Do you have quality issues as stated by the above replies
I find no difference, and using import is just another "feature" that isn't really necessary, after all, why provide a "browse" option when inserting if you can't browse your entire HD? Also, if you must "publish" a backup, why is there an "export"
Not stepping on anyone's toes here, just questioning the necessity of doing things a specific way when other standard means work also. Drag & drop, is a basic part of windows, so why not use it with any microsoft product!
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

No, when you work within a FP web, you are working in a separate environment
that is running on top of the Windows OS. Example, when you delete files in
FP, they are not placed in the Windows Recycle Bin, they are deleted
immediately..

The export function, unless changed under FP2003, only exports individual
files one at a time.

However, you may chose to continue to work the way you currently work, and
may never have any problems, however many of us here, use the import
function, and never have problems that many who do not use the import
function, have.

--

==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, Forums, WebCircle,
MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================


wp said:
Which is the same as if using explorer cut/paste, drag drop right?
Doesn't all windows programs utilize explorer as the shell for file
management. Do you have quality issues as stated by the above replies?
I find no difference, and using import is just another "feature" that
isn't really necessary, after all, why provide a "browse" option when
inserting if you can't browse your entire HD? Also, if you must "publish" a
backup, why is there an "export"?
Not stepping on anyone's toes here, just questioning the necessity of
doing things a specific way when other standard means work also. Drag &
drop, is a basic part of windows, so why not use it with any microsoft
product!
 
J

Jim Buyens

david said:
yes it in f.p and it happens to larger pics as well also all are in are in
a folder inside website

In IE, if you right-click the "missing" picture and choose Show
Picture, does the picture then appear? How about if you hold down Ctrl
while clicking the Refresh button?

Are you publishing through FrontPage, using an http:// URL, or through
an FTP program?

If through FrontPage, when you open the hosted Web site in FrontPage,
and then open one of the problem pages, do the pictures appear?

If through FTP, have you verified that the picture files are in the
place you expect on the FTP site?

Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
http://www.interlacken.com
Author of:
*----------------------------------------------------
|\---------------------------------------------------
|| Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
||---------------------------------------------------
|| Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
|| Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
|| Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
|| (All from Microsoft Press)
|/---------------------------------------------------
*----------------------------------------------------
 
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