Drop tool bars & menus without opening a new window

[M.Siler]

I know how to resize the a browser window using the following code
window.resizeTo(500,500) but is there away to also make the menus & tool
bars go away without opening a new window?

The problem I'm having is that we want to maximize the screen real-estate
for users that have 800x600 or less by have the windows not display the
address field, tool bars, menus, etc. I'm doing this by opening a new window
but now we have to contend with the pop-up blocker issues.

 

[Ronx]

That would be extremely annoying. When the user leaves the site for
any reason, how are you going to restore the toolbars, etc. The only
way is to close the browser window, and re-open it. And how do you
deal with the many users who have their browsers opened in a small
(800x600) window, even if they have a high resolution screen?
There are only two ways I know to remove the toolbars:
1) Pop-up window (personally, if any website opens a full screen
pop-up window [regardless of my screen resolution at the time], I
place it in Restricted Sites zone and leave.)
2) Open the IE browser in Kiosk mode - this is a user option, AFAIK,
cannot be done from the webpage.

 

[Murray]

And for other browsers/platforms?

--
Murray
--------------
MVP FrontPage

That would be extremely annoying. When the user leaves the site for any
reason, how are you going to restore the toolbars, etc. The only way is
to close the browser window, and re-open it. And how do you deal with the
many users who have their browsers opened in a small (800x600) window,
even if they have a high resolution screen?
There are only two ways I know to remove the toolbars:
1) Pop-up window (personally, if any website opens a full screen pop-up
window [regardless of my screen resolution at the time], I place it in
Restricted Sites zone and leave.)
2) Open the IE browser in Kiosk mode - this is a user option, AFAIK,
cannot be done from the webpage.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/

I know how to resize the a browser window using the following code
window.resizeTo(500,500) but is there away to also make the menus & tool
bars go away without opening a new window?

The problem I'm having is that we want to maximize the screen real-estate
for users that have 800x600 or less by have the windows not display the
address field, tool bars, menus, etc. I'm doing this by opening a new
window but now we have to contend with the pop-up blocker issues.

 

[M.Siler]

You seem king of angry that I asked how to accomplish this. This is for an
business Extranet. It has a very specific application. I'd be glad to open
another window, which I'm currently doing, but now I have to deal with
educating the users about pop-up blockers and how to permit my window. To
use the site on a 800x600 system I have to elimate the menus and tool bars.
I don't get rid of the title bar so the user can still close the window.

That would be extremely annoying. When the user leaves the site for any
reason, how are you going to restore the toolbars, etc. The only way is
to close the browser window, and re-open it. And how do you deal with the
many users who have their browsers opened in a small (800x600) window,
even if they have a high resolution screen?
There are only two ways I know to remove the toolbars:
1) Pop-up window (personally, if any website opens a full screen pop-up
window [regardless of my screen resolution at the time], I place it in
Restricted Sites zone and leave.)
2) Open the IE browser in Kiosk mode - this is a user option, AFAIK,
cannot be done from the webpage.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/

I know how to resize the a browser window using the following code
window.resizeTo(500,500) but is there away to also make the menus & tool
bars go away without opening a new window?

The problem I'm having is that we want to maximize the screen real-estate
for users that have 800x600 or less by have the windows not display the
address field, tool bars, menus, etc. I'm doing this by opening a new
window but now we have to contend with the pop-up blocker issues.

 

[John Malone]

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<title>Full Window</title>
<script>
<!--
function fullwin(){
window.open("sample.htm","","fullscreen,scrollbars")
}
//-->
</script>
</head>
<body>
<input type="button" onClick="fullwin()" value="Open window">
</body>
</html>

Change the sample.htm to the page you want.
Demo Here...
http://www.xmas-i-am.com/test/kiosk.htm

Not Full Kiosk but close.....

John Malone
================
| You seem king of angry that I asked how to accomplish this. This is for an
| business Extranet. It has a very specific application. I'd be glad to open
| another window, which I'm currently doing, but now I have to deal with
| educating the users about pop-up blockers and how to permit my window. To
| use the site on a 800x600 system I have to elimate the menus and tool
bars.
| I don't get rid of the title bar so the user can still close the window.
|
| | > That would be extremely annoying. When the user leaves the site for any
| > reason, how are you going to restore the toolbars, etc. The only way is
| > to close the browser window, and re-open it. And how do you deal with
the
| > many users who have their browsers opened in a small (800x600) window,
| > even if they have a high resolution screen?
| > There are only two ways I know to remove the toolbars:
| > 1) Pop-up window (personally, if any website opens a full screen pop-up
| > window [regardless of my screen resolution at the time], I place it in
| > Restricted Sites zone and leave.)
| > 2) Open the IE browser in Kiosk mode - this is a user option, AFAIK,
| > cannot be done from the webpage.
| > --
| > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
| > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
| > FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| >
| > | >>I know how to resize the a browser window using the following code
| >>window.resizeTo(500,500) but is there away to also make the menus & tool
| >>bars go away without opening a new window?
| >>
| >> The problem I'm having is that we want to maximize the screen
real-estate
| >> for users that have 800x600 or less by have the windows not display the
| >> address field, tool bars, menus, etc. I'm doing this by opening a new
| >> window but now we have to contend with the pop-up blocker issues.
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|
|

 

[Ronx]

You seem king of angry that I asked how to accomplish this. This is

for an business Extranet.

I used to work in an intranet environment. Many page designers used
full screen pop-ups to "accommodate those with 800x600 screen
resolution". It was annoying even then for those of us (50% of
users) who used 1280x1024 screens to see a web page designed for
800x600, but opened at full screen - and the window was not resizable.
The 800x600 users (around 20% of the 1200 staff in my building) all
knew how to maximise the screen area by adjusting IE's toolbar layout,
and opening IE in Kiosk mode (with a home page containing the most
used links) was part of the training manual for my department.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/

You seem king of angry that I asked how to accomplish this. This is
for an business Extranet. It has a very specific application. I'd be
glad to open another window, which I'm currently doing, but now I
have to deal with educating the users about pop-up blockers and how
to permit my window. To use the site on a 800x600 system I have to
elimate the menus and tool bars. I don't get rid of the title bar so
the user can still close the window.

That would be extremely annoying. When the user leaves the site
for any reason, how are you going to restore the toolbars, etc.
The only way is to close the browser window, and re-open it. And
how do you deal with the many users who have their browsers opened
in a small (800x600) window, even if they have a high resolution
screen?
There are only two ways I know to remove the toolbars:
1) Pop-up window (personally, if any website opens a full screen
pop-up window [regardless of my screen resolution at the time], I
place it in Restricted Sites zone and leave.)
2) Open the IE browser in Kiosk mode - this is a user option,
AFAIK, cannot be done from the webpage.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/

I know how to resize the a browser window using the following code
window.resizeTo(500,500) but is there away to also make the menus &
tool bars go away without opening a new window?

The problem I'm having is that we want to maximize the screen
real-estate for users that have 800x600 or less by have the
windows not display the address field, tool bars, menus, etc. I'm
doing this by opening a new window but now we have to contend with
the pop-up blocker issues.

 

[M.Siler]

I check the screen size first and if it is greater than 800x600 I don't do
the pop-up. Only for 800x600 people do I want the pop-up or to resize, but
I'd rather not have to deal with support of the pop-up blocker issues.

You seem king of angry that I asked how to accomplish this. This is for
an business Extranet.

I used to work in an intranet environment. Many page designers used full
screen pop-ups to "accommodate those with 800x600 screen resolution". It
was annoying even then for those of us (50% of users) who used 1280x1024
screens to see a web page designed for 800x600, but opened at full
screen - and the window was not resizable. The 800x600 users (around 20%
of the 1200 staff in my building) all knew how to maximise the screen area
by adjusting IE's toolbar layout, and opening IE in Kiosk mode (with a
home page containing the most used links) was part of the training manual
for my department.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/

You seem king of angry that I asked how to accomplish this. This is for
an business Extranet. It has a very specific application. I'd be glad to
open another window, which I'm currently doing, but now I have to deal
with educating the users about pop-up blockers and how to permit my
window. To use the site on a 800x600 system I have to elimate the menus
and tool bars. I don't get rid of the title bar so the user can still
close the window.

That would be extremely annoying. When the user leaves the site for any
reason, how are you going to restore the toolbars, etc. The only way is
to close the browser window, and re-open it. And how do you deal with
the many users who have their browsers opened in a small (800x600)
window, even if they have a high resolution screen?
There are only two ways I know to remove the toolbars:
1) Pop-up window (personally, if any website opens a full screen pop-up
window [regardless of my screen resolution at the time], I place it in
Restricted Sites zone and leave.)
2) Open the IE browser in Kiosk mode - this is a user option, AFAIK,
cannot be done from the webpage.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/

I know how to resize the a browser window using the following code
window.resizeTo(500,500) but is there away to also make the menus & tool
bars go away without opening a new window?

The problem I'm having is that we want to maximize the screen
real-estate for users that have 800x600 or less by have the windows not
display the address field, tool bars, menus, etc. I'm doing this by
opening a new window but now we have to contend with the pop-up blocker
issues.

 

[Ronx]

If the pop-up is invoked by means of a clickable link rather than
onload event, then most pop-up blockers will allow the pop-up with no
hassle or intervention, the rest usually allow the pop-up if some
other key (often Ctrl key) is pressed at the same time as the mouse is
clicked. This method will save having to check screen resolution, and
caters for the small window users.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/

I check the screen size first and if it is greater than 800x600 I
don't do the pop-up. Only for 800x600 people do I want the pop-up or
to resize, but I'd rather not have to deal with support of the pop-up
blocker issues.

You seem king of angry that I asked how to accomplish this. This
is for an business Extranet.

I used to work in an intranet environment. Many page designers
used full screen pop-ups to "accommodate those with 800x600 screen
resolution". It was annoying even then for those of us (50% of
users) who used 1280x1024 screens to see a web page designed for
800x600, but opened at full screen - and the window was not
resizable. The 800x600 users (around 20% of the 1200 staff in my
building) all knew how to maximise the screen area by adjusting
IE's toolbar layout, and opening IE in Kiosk mode (with a home page
containing the most used links) was part of the training manual for
my department.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/

You seem king of angry that I asked how to accomplish this. This
is for an business Extranet. It has a very specific application.
I'd be glad to open another window, which I'm currently doing, but
now I have to deal with educating the users about pop-up blockers
and how to permit my window. To use the site on a 800x600 system I
have to elimate the menus and tool bars. I don't get rid of the
title bar so the user can still close the window.

That would be extremely annoying. When the user leaves the site
for any reason, how are you going to restore the toolbars, etc.
The only way is to close the browser window, and re-open it. And
how do you deal with the many users who have their browsers
opened in a small (800x600) window, even if they have a high
resolution screen?
There are only two ways I know to remove the toolbars:
1) Pop-up window (personally, if any website opens a full screen
pop-up window [regardless of my screen resolution at the time], I
place it in Restricted Sites zone and leave.)
2) Open the IE browser in Kiosk mode - this is a user option,
AFAIK, cannot be done from the webpage.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/

I know how to resize the a browser window using the following
code window.resizeTo(500,500) but is there away to also make the
menus & tool bars go away without opening a new window?

The problem I'm having is that we want to maximize the screen
real-estate for users that have 800x600 or less by have the
windows not display the address field, tool bars, menus, etc.
I'm doing this by opening a new window but now we have to
contend with the pop-up blocker issues.