Dual-Boot XP Pro 32-bit & XP Pro x64 / MS Office Pro 2007 License

[Sputnik]

I am unclear as the the true LEGAL situation in installing Office Pro 2007
for dual-boot PC's running two versions of XP Pro (32 & 64 bit). This is the
same OS, in principle, and on the same motherboard. Does this mean that if I
install it on both OS boot drives it is regarded as being installed ONCE or
TWICE on the licensed system? The HW signiature will be identical.

I still would like to install it on a portable unit for field work and am
under the impression that this is valid under the License Installation and
Use Rights, para. 2b.

Any ideas or do I need a lawyer to solve this one?

 

[DL]

If you want the actual legal deffinition consult a lawyer, but as far as I'm
aware MS views a dual boot as two installations

 

[Bob I]

Can you run both copies simultaneously?

 

[Sputnik]

No as I can only boot one OS at a time. They would be exclusive to whichever
OS was running. Data would be common.

 

[ANONYMOUS]

If you are installing on the same system whether or not it is operating
on dual OS, you are still using the single license as it is unlikely two
people will be using the same copy simultaneously. Why do you ask such
stupid questions here? This newsgroup is to solve technical problems
not your legal problems. Are you nuts?

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

Please don't feed the trolls

 

[Gordon]

I am unclear as the the true LEGAL situation in installing Office Pro 2007
for dual-boot PC's running two versions of XP Pro (32 & 64 bit). This is
the
same OS, in principle, and on the same motherboard. Does this mean that
if I
install it on both OS boot drives it is regarded as being installed ONCE
or
TWICE on the licensed system? The HW signiature will be identical.

I still would like to install it on a portable unit for field work and am
under the impression that this is valid under the License Installation and
Use Rights, para. 2b.

Any ideas or do I need a lawyer to solve this one?

From the EULA of Office 2007 Standard UK:
INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS. Before you use the software under a license,
you must assign that license to one device. That device is the “licensed
device.†A hardware partition or blade is considered to be a separate
device.


Notice the sentence "A Hardware partition is considered to be a separate
device"

Thus installing on a dual boot uses TWO installs. IMHO....

 

[Gordon]

If you are installing on the same system whether or not it is operating on
dual OS, you are still using the single license as it is unlikely two
people will be using the same copy simultaneously. Why do you ask such
stupid questions here? This newsgroup is to solve technical problems not
your legal problems. Are you nuts?

Prat.

 

[Sputnik]

If I was nuts I'd probably not have asked the question in the first place!

Answers like yours are unhelpful and the response contradicts a later
response from Gordon.

 

[Bob I]

From the EULA of Office 2007 Standard UK:
INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS. Before you use the software under a
license, you must assign that license to one device. That device is the
“licensed device.†A hardware partition or blade is considered to
be a separate device.


Notice the sentence "A Hardware partition is considered to be a separate
device"

Thus installing on a dual boot uses TWO installs. IMHO....

I think you have misread "Hardware" Partition as "Hard Drive" partition,
which is not the same thing. Hardware partitioning is segmenting the
multiple CPUs of a server into separate virtual servers, while a "blade"
is a CPU in a server rack. Thus the phrase "A hardware partition or
blade is considered a separate device".

 

[Gordon]

I think you have misread "Hardware" Partition as "Hard Drive" partition,
which is not the same thing. Hardware partitioning is segmenting the
multiple CPUs of a server into separate virtual servers, while a "blade"
is a CPU in a server rack. Thus the phrase "A hardware partition or blade
is considered a separate device".

So a hard disk is NOT hardware in your opinion?

 

[Bob I]

So a hard disk is NOT hardware in your opinion?

You infer incorrectly. In THIS context, A "Hardware partition" and a
"Hard Drive partition" are not synonymous.

 

[Gordon]

You infer incorrectly. In THIS context, A "Hardware partition" and a "Hard
Drive partition" are not synonymous.

Doesn't READ that way. How do you KNOW? There's no definition in the EULA of
what a "hardware partition" is...
And in anycase, I bet if the OP installs twice on the desktop in each OS and
then tries to install a third time on the laptop, it won't activate.

 

[Bob I]

Doesn't READ that way. How do you KNOW? There's no definition in the
EULA of what a "hardware partition" is...
And in anycase, I bet if the OP installs twice on the desktop in each OS
and then tries to install a third time on the laptop, it won't activate.

I don't mind, I read the words as they are in Use Terms. In reality it's
the next item in the section that you should be referring to. ;-)

 

[Gordon]

I don't mind, I read the words as they are in Use Terms. In reality it's
the next item in the section that you should be referring to. ;-)

You mean "You may install ONE (my emphasis) copy on the Licenced device".
That proves my point even more.
If TWO copies are installed - one on the first OS and partition (the
Licenced device) what does that make the SECOND install on a second OS on a
second partition?

 

[Bob I]

You mean "You may install ONE (my emphasis) copy on the Licenced
device". That proves my point even more.
If TWO copies are installed - one on the first OS and partition (the
Licenced device) what does that make the SECOND install on a second OS
on a second partition?

Actually 3 hard drive partitions, one for each OS, and one shared for
applications. Now how many copies are installed. ;-)

 

[Gordon]

Actually 3 hard drive partitions, one for each OS, and one shared for
applications. Now how many copies are installed. ;-)

Two separate installations of Office. I would read that as....the fact that
they are on the same machine is irrelevant...

 

[Sputnik]

Gordon/Bob 1

You have both hit the problem area. Is the Licensed device with 2 x OS any
different from one with only a single OS. The hardware signiature is
identical. I have now tried to install the product on both partitions and
succeeded. Only one copy can be run at any time, ergo only one copy is
installed on the licensed machine. I then attempted to install the second
laptop version and was informed that I had exceeded my "quota" of
installations for the license.

Bummer! I'll have to talk to Microsoft about this problem.

Sputnik

 

[kfawcett]

Gordon wrote:-

"Sputnik" (e-mail address removed) wrote in message
-
I am unclear as the the true LEGAL situation in installing Office Pro

2007
for dual-boot PC's running two versions of XP Pro (32 & 64 bit). This

is the
same OS, in principle, and on the same motherboard. Does this mean
that if I
install it on both OS boot drives it is regarded as being installed
ONCE or
TWICE on the licensed system? The HW signiature will be identical.

I still would like to install it on a portable unit for field work and
am
under the impression that this is valid under the License Installation

and
Use Rights, para. 2b.

Any ideas or do I need a lawyer to solve this one?-


From the EULA of Office 2007 Standard UK:
INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS. Before you use the software under a
license, you must assign that license to one device. That device is
the
“licensed device.†A hardware partition or blade is considered to

be a separate device.


Notice the sentence "A Hardware partition is considered to be a
separate
device"

Thus installing on a dual boot uses TWO installs. IMHO....-

I think you have misread "Hardware" Partition as "Hard Drive"
partition,
which is not the same thing. Hardware partitioning is segmenting the
multiple CPUs of a server into separate virtual servers, while a
"blade"
is a CPU in a server rack. Thus the phrase "A hardware partition or
blade is considered a separate device".

I'm curious as to the answer you get from Microsoft. Hopefully, you
only need to call Microsoft Activation and have them allow you to
install it again.

 

[Sputnik]

The response was disappointing.

As there are two completelyy separate OS's on the system, each with its
discrete hard drive, then there are also TWO installations of the software.
Hence no copy for the laptop. This is in spite of the Licensed Device only
being able to run one environment at any time.

I've now installed a second kit on the laptop with full validation & OGA.
Ouch! The expense!

It was agreed, during the discussion, that there should be some
clarification of this matter in the license agreement as there may be many
similar cases with the introduction of Windows 7. I understand the problem
has now been flagged internally and await the revised text.