Embedded tables with high memory

[Rich]

I use a alot of embedded tables as these give me easy formatting of columns
and rows. However they use a alot of memory. Is there another way of
formatting data in FP that doesn't use tables for example using the TAB
function? At the moment I have to add spaces but this is cumbersome and never
lines up.

 

[Stefan B Rusynko]

Tab is unsupported in Html and the space bar is not a design tool
Tables are browser rendered Html and don't use "memory"
- stick to them for data layout

 

[Jens Peter Karlsen[FP MVP]]

There are no such thing as a TAB in HTML.
Consider using absolutely positioned layers instead.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

 

[Murray]

It would make no difference and would likely introduce other problems, Jens.

I would need to understand what the OP means when he says "takes up memory"
before making such a recommendation.

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Murray
============

There are no such thing as a TAB in HTML.
Consider using absolutely positioned layers instead.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rich [mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: 28. marts 2005 14:29
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: Embedded tables with high memory
Subject: Embedded tables with high memory


I use a alot of embedded tables as these give me easy
formatting of columns and rows. However they use a alot of
memory. Is there another way of formatting data in FP that
doesn't use tables for example using the TAB function? At the
moment I have to add spaces but this is cumbersome and never lines up.

 

[Rich]

when I say 'high memory' I mean high download time (for a 56kbs modem)

embedded tables significantly increase the download time. Is there any other
way to view data in a tabular format but without actually using tables?

It would make no difference and would likely introduce other problems, Jens.

I would need to understand what the OP means when he says "takes up memory"
before making such a recommendation.

--
Murray
============

There are no such thing as a TAB in HTML.
Consider using absolutely positioned layers instead.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rich [mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: 28. marts 2005 14:29
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: Embedded tables with high memory
Subject: Embedded tables with high memory


I use a alot of embedded tables as these give me easy
formatting of columns and rows. However they use a alot of
memory. Is there another way of formatting data in FP that
doesn't use tables for example using the TAB function? At the
moment I have to add spaces but this is cumbersome and never lines up.

 

[Ronx]

Tables do not add much to the download time - a table is only text,
and text downloads quickly. With a 40000bps connection a page with
20KB of text would download in less than 20 seconds without
compression, 5 to 10 seconds with. The compression is built into the
modems connection protocol, and can compress text to a quarter (or
better) of. Hardly a long time.

--
Ron Symonds
Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

when I say 'high memory' I mean high download time (for a 56kbs
modem)

embedded tables significantly increase the download time. Is there
any other
way to view data in a tabular format but without actually using
tables?

It would make no difference and would likely introduce other
problems, Jens.

I would need to understand what the OP means when he says "takes up
memory"
before making such a recommendation.

--
Murray
============

There are no such thing as a TAB in HTML.
Consider using absolutely positioned layers instead.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rich [mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: 28. marts 2005 14:29
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: Embedded tables with high memory
Subject: Embedded tables with high memory


I use a alot of embedded tables as these give me easy
formatting of columns and rows. However they use a alot of
memory. Is there another way of formatting data in FP that
doesn't use tables for example using the TAB function? At the
moment I have to add spaces but this is cumbersome and never
lines up.

 

[Murray]

I guess you are equating RENDER time with DOWNLOAD time. A table with even
a few col- and rowspans can dramatically increase render time, since the
table has become quite complex. How many do you have? If more than about 4
total, then you are using tables in such a way that your pages will be very
fragile, and *will* take a long time to download.

The best method I have found to work with tables is this -

If you want to merge two cells, then terminate your table and stack a new
one underneath with the new cell structure.

If you want to split two cells, then nest a new table in the cell instead.

Nested tables are not nearly so hard for the browsers to render if they are
kept simple (i.e., NO col- rowspans).

And even though Ronx says table markup doesn't add so much to the page
weight, it really does. That's why using CSS for layout is so popular - it
lets you get all of that presentation code out of the page and into a
cacheable file which will not need to be reloaded for each page like table
markup is.

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Murray
============

when I say 'high memory' I mean high download time (for a 56kbs modem)

embedded tables significantly increase the download time. Is there any
other
way to view data in a tabular format but without actually using tables?

It would make no difference and would likely introduce other problems,
Jens.

I would need to understand what the OP means when he says "takes up
memory"
before making such a recommendation.

--
Murray
============

There are no such thing as a TAB in HTML.
Consider using absolutely positioned layers instead.

Regards Jens Peter Karlsen. Microsoft MVP - Frontpage.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rich [mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: 28. marts 2005 14:29
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: Embedded tables with high memory
Subject: Embedded tables with high memory


I use a alot of embedded tables as these give me easy
formatting of columns and rows. However they use a alot of
memory. Is there another way of formatting data in FP that
doesn't use tables for example using the TAB function? At the
moment I have to add spaces but this is cumbersome and never lines up.