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Jim

I, and others, problems opening a series of six Word
Documents which we have obtained from a trusted source.
The original document was compiled from other documents,
some from colleagues in Russia. I get the usual [Check path
and all that plus the password] garbage but this is not the
problem. Somehow, I was successful in opening one of the
series and I found whole paragraphs where the font
signature included [Russian]. I also found that the
'Normal' style include the same Russian in the font
signature. Now this is not a surprise because it is very
likely that some of the copy came from Russian colleagues.

So, I highlighted the entire document and changed the font
language from Russian to English, saved the document and
two very strange things happened. (1) the document is half
the size and (2) everyone else who had problems earlier can
now open the document, works great. Of course, the 'normal'
style still says Language Russian.

In the other documents of the series of sis that I cannot
open in Word, I can open with WordPad and at least see some
of the copy. I see about ten lines of binary, then the
entire content of the document (text) is visible but I am
only through about 10% (total size) of the document.

Below the visible copy/text which comprised about 10% of
the document (judging from the appearance of the scroll
bar), I see a line

EMBED CDRAW

Then, the remaining 90% of the document is binary.

Does anyone know what this 'EMBED CDRAW' is all about? The
total size of the document is about 1.2MB! The text/copy
alone can be placed in a 10KB ASCII file!!

I suspect that somehow the content of these documents has
been corrupted with 'hidden' attributes perhaps from an
embedded formatting or style which is buried in the
document template? Is it possible that some sort of Macro
virus has been inserted into these documents by the
original author of one or more parts?

Any ideas?
 
M

macropod

Hi Jim,

The EMBED CDRAW reference probably means that the file contains an embedded
picture - possibly a Corel Draw image, but I'm just guessing here.
That would account for the relatively large file size.

Not too sure about your recovery options, but you could at least open the
file in Notepad or Wordpad and copy the text out. Even without the image,
you should be able to make sense of the text -and it may even tell you what
the image was trying to show.

Cheers


Jim said:
I, and others, problems opening a series of six Word
Documents which we have obtained from a trusted source.
The original document was compiled from other documents,
some from colleagues in Russia. I get the usual [Check path
and all that plus the password] garbage but this is not the
problem. Somehow, I was successful in opening one of the
series and I found whole paragraphs where the font
signature included [Russian]. I also found that the
'Normal' style include the same Russian in the font
signature. Now this is not a surprise because it is very
likely that some of the copy came from Russian colleagues.

So, I highlighted the entire document and changed the font
language from Russian to English, saved the document and
two very strange things happened. (1) the document is half
the size and (2) everyone else who had problems earlier can
now open the document, works great. Of course, the 'normal'
style still says Language Russian.

In the other documents of the series of sis that I cannot
open in Word, I can open with WordPad and at least see some
of the copy. I see about ten lines of binary, then the
entire content of the document (text) is visible but I am
only through about 10% (total size) of the document.

Below the visible copy/text which comprised about 10% of
the document (judging from the appearance of the scroll
bar), I see a line

EMBED CDRAW

Then, the remaining 90% of the document is binary.

Does anyone know what this 'EMBED CDRAW' is all about? The
total size of the document is about 1.2MB! The text/copy
alone can be placed in a 10KB ASCII file!!

I suspect that somehow the content of these documents has
been corrupted with 'hidden' attributes perhaps from an
embedded formatting or style which is buried in the
document template? Is it possible that some sort of Macro
virus has been inserted into these documents by the
original author of one or more parts?

Any ideas?
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J

Jim

macropod,

Thanks for your inputs on this issue. I suspect that this
is the case, CDRAW is an image file of some kind which is
causing the problem. I have rejected the Russian language
font signature as preventing opening the documents. It does
not belong there but now I have found the same Russian font
in other docs from this source that I can open in Word. I
do know that the presence of the Russian significant
increases the size of the file!

I have asked the author (compiler) of the documents if any
portions of the documents were composed (or edited) by
someone with Word Perfect and converted to Word.

Thank You
-----Original Message-----
Hi Jim,

The EMBED CDRAW reference probably means that the file contains an embedded
picture - possibly a Corel Draw image, but I'm just guessing here.
That would account for the relatively large file size.

Not too sure about your recovery options, but you could at least open the
file in Notepad or Wordpad and copy the text out. Even without the image,
you should be able to make sense of the text -and it may even tell you what
the image was trying to show.

Cheers


Jim said:
I, and others, problems opening a series of six Word
Documents which we have obtained from a trusted source.
The original document was compiled from other documents,
some from colleagues in Russia. I get the usual [Check path
and all that plus the password] garbage but this is not the
problem. Somehow, I was successful in opening one of the
series and I found whole paragraphs where the font
signature included [Russian]. I also found that the
'Normal' style include the same Russian in the font
signature. Now this is not a surprise because it is very
likely that some of the copy came from Russian colleagues.

So, I highlighted the entire document and changed the font
language from Russian to English, saved the document and
two very strange things happened. (1) the document is half
the size and (2) everyone else who had problems earlier can
now open the document, works great. Of course, the 'normal'
style still says Language Russian.

In the other documents of the series of sis that I cannot
open in Word, I can open with WordPad and at least see some
of the copy. I see about ten lines of binary, then the
entire content of the document (text) is visible but I am
only through about 10% (total size) of the document.

Below the visible copy/text which comprised about 10% of
the document (judging from the appearance of the scroll
bar), I see a line

EMBED CDRAW

Then, the remaining 90% of the document is binary.

Does anyone know what this 'EMBED CDRAW' is all about? The
total size of the document is about 1.2MB! The text/copy
alone can be placed in a 10KB ASCII file!!

I suspect that somehow the content of these documents has
been corrupted with 'hidden' attributes perhaps from an
embedded formatting or style which is buried in the
document template? Is it possible that some sort of Macro
virus has been inserted into these documents by the
original author of one or more parts?

Any ideas?
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