M
Mickster
I want to use a font the is not web safe for my titles. Is there an easy way
to change text into a graphic?
to change text into a graphic?
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George Hester
You get the title to appear in the font you want with the background the
same as what is on your web page. Then with your font the way you want it
showing in a window on your desktp you type Alt-PrintScr. The you Start |
Run | mspaint | OK. Then you do Ctrl-v. Say yes to the pompt to increase
the canvas. Then you click the rectangle on the left and box out what you
want to save namely around your font title. Then ctrl-c. Then close this
image do not save it. Then ctrl-v. Then you ave what you want. Save it as
a bitmap to preserve the coloring 24-bit.
Now you need another application. I use:
http://www.fcodersoft.com/
It is a great tool the best out there. Convert the bitmap to a gif and put
that in your pages with CSS and this tag:
<img id="oImage" src="\images\title1.gif" width="100" height="3" border="0"
/>
I assume you only have one image so caching the images first is probably not
necessary. One other thing you might consider is WEFT.
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/web/embedding/weft3/default.htm
same as what is on your web page. Then with your font the way you want it
showing in a window on your desktp you type Alt-PrintScr. The you Start |
Run | mspaint | OK. Then you do Ctrl-v. Say yes to the pompt to increase
the canvas. Then you click the rectangle on the left and box out what you
want to save namely around your font title. Then ctrl-c. Then close this
image do not save it. Then ctrl-v. Then you ave what you want. Save it as
a bitmap to preserve the coloring 24-bit.
Now you need another application. I use:
http://www.fcodersoft.com/
It is a great tool the best out there. Convert the bitmap to a gif and put
that in your pages with CSS and this tag:
<img id="oImage" src="\images\title1.gif" width="100" height="3" border="0"
/>
I assume you only have one image so caching the images first is probably not
necessary. One other thing you might consider is WEFT.
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/web/embedding/weft3/default.htm
M
Murray
Don't use WEFT.
--
Murray
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Murray
George Hester said:You get the title to appear in the font you want with the background the
same as what is on your web page. Then with your font the way you want it
showing in a window on your desktp you type Alt-PrintScr. The you Start |
Run | mspaint | OK. Then you do Ctrl-v. Say yes to the pompt to increase
the canvas. Then you click the rectangle on the left and box out what you
want to save namely around your font title. Then ctrl-c. Then close this
image do not save it. Then ctrl-v. Then you ave what you want. Save it
as
a bitmap to preserve the coloring 24-bit.
Now you need another application. I use:
http://www.fcodersoft.com/
It is a great tool the best out there. Convert the bitmap to a gif and
put
that in your pages with CSS and this tag:
<img id="oImage" src="\images\title1.gif" width="100" height="3"
border="0"
/>
I assume you only have one image so caching the images first is probably
not
necessary. One other thing you might consider is WEFT.
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/web/embedding/weft3/default.htm
G
George Hester
Why? It works pretty good. It's a downloadable font so can cause a
security warning to pop up but by default that is enabled in most systems.
security warning to pop up but by default that is enabled in most systems.
M
Murray
It is not cross-browser/platform, and it adds quite a bit of overhead to
your page load.
In my mind this means that it's not worth doing.
your page load.
In my mind this means that it's not worth doing.
G
George Hester
The eot's are on the order of 24KB. Some bigger some smaller. I use a font
that you cannot find outside of Photodraw. And who uses that? No one. I
like the font. I use it for one place and one place only. Once the eot is
d/l that's it. It will be there if needed until the TIF is cleaned out.
How many people do that regularly?
Now as for the cross-browser issue. Actually it doesn't matter. The WEFT
tool allows the same type of cascading as the style attribute for
font-family. It is in fact a well established CSS function. But yes
Netscape the Gecko engines are scared silly from it and won't implement it.
Again so what? The image of the font is an alternative that has been around
since the Web first did images. There are alternative ways one being WEFT;
the other from Netscape (dead); others I'm sure.
that you cannot find outside of Photodraw. And who uses that? No one. I
like the font. I use it for one place and one place only. Once the eot is
d/l that's it. It will be there if needed until the TIF is cleaned out.
How many people do that regularly?
Now as for the cross-browser issue. Actually it doesn't matter. The WEFT
tool allows the same type of cascading as the style attribute for
font-family. It is in fact a well established CSS function. But yes
Netscape the Gecko engines are scared silly from it and won't implement it.
Again so what? The image of the font is an alternative that has been around
since the Web first did images. There are alternative ways one being WEFT;
the other from Netscape (dead); others I'm sure.
S
Stefan B Rusynko
Plus IMHO WEFT is a big security hole
- I never allow them
And of course there is the legal issue of if you are allowed to redistribute a font you don't own rights to
| It is not cross-browser/platform, and it adds quite a bit of overhead to
| your page load.
|
| In my mind this means that it's not worth doing.
|
| --
| Murray
|
| | > Why? It works pretty good. It's a downloadable font so can cause a
| > security warning to pop up but by default that is enabled in most systems.
| >
| > --
| > George Hester
| > _________________________________
| > | >> Don't use WEFT.
| >>
| >> --
| >> Murray
| >>
| >> | >> > You get the title to appear in the font you want with the background
| >> > the
| >> > same as what is on your web page. Then with your font the way you want
| > it
| >> > showing in a window on your desktp you type Alt-PrintScr. The you
| >> > Start
| > |
| >> > Run | mspaint | OK. Then you do Ctrl-v. Say yes to the pompt to
| > increase
| >> > the canvas. Then you click the rectangle on the left and box out what
| > you
| >> > want to save namely around your font title. Then ctrl-c. Then close
| > this
| >> > image do not save it. Then ctrl-v. Then you ave what you want. Save
| > it
| >> > as
| >> > a bitmap to preserve the coloring 24-bit.
| >> >
| >> > Now you need another application. I use:
| >> >
| >> > http://www.fcodersoft.com/
| >> >
| >> > It is a great tool the best out there. Convert the bitmap to a gif and
| >> > put
| >> > that in your pages with CSS and this tag:
| >> >
| >> > <img id="oImage" src="\images\title1.gif" width="100" height="3"
| >> > border="0"
| >> > />
| >> >
| >> > I assume you only have one image so caching the images first is
| >> > probably
| >> > not
| >> > necessary. One other thing you might consider is WEFT.
| >> >
| >> > http://www.microsoft.com/typography/web/embedding/weft3/default.htm
| >> >
| >> > --
| >> > George Hester
| >> > _________________________________
| >> > | >> >> I want to use a font the is not web safe for my titles. Is there an
| > easy
| >> > way
| >> >> to change text into a graphic?
| >> >
| >> >
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|
|
- I never allow them
And of course there is the legal issue of if you are allowed to redistribute a font you don't own rights to
| It is not cross-browser/platform, and it adds quite a bit of overhead to
| your page load.
|
| In my mind this means that it's not worth doing.
|
| --
| Murray
|
| | > Why? It works pretty good. It's a downloadable font so can cause a
| > security warning to pop up but by default that is enabled in most systems.
| >
| > --
| > George Hester
| > _________________________________
| > | >> Don't use WEFT.
| >>
| >> --
| >> Murray
| >>
| >> | >> > You get the title to appear in the font you want with the background
| >> > the
| >> > same as what is on your web page. Then with your font the way you want
| > it
| >> > showing in a window on your desktp you type Alt-PrintScr. The you
| >> > Start
| > |
| >> > Run | mspaint | OK. Then you do Ctrl-v. Say yes to the pompt to
| > increase
| >> > the canvas. Then you click the rectangle on the left and box out what
| > you
| >> > want to save namely around your font title. Then ctrl-c. Then close
| > this
| >> > image do not save it. Then ctrl-v. Then you ave what you want. Save
| > it
| >> > as
| >> > a bitmap to preserve the coloring 24-bit.
| >> >
| >> > Now you need another application. I use:
| >> >
| >> > http://www.fcodersoft.com/
| >> >
| >> > It is a great tool the best out there. Convert the bitmap to a gif and
| >> > put
| >> > that in your pages with CSS and this tag:
| >> >
| >> > <img id="oImage" src="\images\title1.gif" width="100" height="3"
| >> > border="0"
| >> > />
| >> >
| >> > I assume you only have one image so caching the images first is
| >> > probably
| >> > not
| >> > necessary. One other thing you might consider is WEFT.
| >> >
| >> > http://www.microsoft.com/typography/web/embedding/weft3/default.htm
| >> >
| >> > --
| >> > George Hester
| >> > _________________________________
| >> > | >> >> I want to use a font the is not web safe for my titles. Is there an
| > easy
| >> > way
| >> >> to change text into a graphic?
| >> >
| >> >
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|
|
M
Murray
The generally accepted page weight target is 40-45K total, which allows a 10
second download on a 56k dialup connection. I wouldn't dream of burning
half that budget for a technique that is not reliably supported.
If you must use a font, make it a graphic.
second download on a 56k dialup connection. I wouldn't dream of burning
half that budget for a technique that is not reliably supported.
If you must use a font, make it a graphic.
G
George Hester
Yes well my eot is 22KB and my page is around 15KB. Is that too much?
M
Murray
eot?
I'm not using my calculator, but 22 + 15 feels like 37 which is peachy. If
this is the total weight of the page (including all images and rollovers,
all code, and all externally linked files) then you are golden.
I'm not using my calculator, but 22 + 15 feels like 37 which is peachy. If
this is the total weight of the page (including all images and rollovers,
all code, and all externally linked files) then you are golden.
G
George Hester
Yes that is it. Actually the eot is only 11KB. The eot is the file type WEFT makes to use the "downloadable" fonts. Remember once the eot is downloaded it has no signature for any futher use. As for any security issue, I am unaware of it. I would appreciate any advice on how they (the eots) are a "security" risk? For the server not the client. Thanks.