For Murray or Ronx!

S

Surfin Local

I promise to leave you alone if you could just clarify for me: Don't use
autoshapes. Don't use wordart. How about the simple rectangles/lines etc.?
Basically don't use anything on the drawing toolbar? Are the web components
safe? Also, I am confused on why you don't want me to accomodate NN in the
authoring properties (referring to Ronx's suggestions from yesterday)
 
K

Kevin Spencer

I would answer this, but apparently, it's not for me.

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:)
Kevin Spencer
..Net Developer
Microsoft MVP
Neither a follower
nor a lender be.
 
T

Tom Pepper Willett

Me, too, Kevin.

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Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
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About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
Understanding FrontPage:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
FrontPage 2002 Server Extensions Support Center:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;en-us;fp10se
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| I would answer this, but apparently, it's not for me.
|
| --
| :)
| Kevin Spencer
| .Net Developer
| Microsoft MVP
| Neither a follower
| nor a lender be.
|
| | > I promise to leave you alone if you could just clarify for me: Don't
use
| > autoshapes. Don't use wordart. How about the simple rectangles/lines
etc.?
| > Basically don't use anything on the drawing toolbar? Are the web
| components
| > safe? Also, I am confused on why you don't want me to accomodate NN in
the
| > authoring properties (referring to Ronx's suggestions from yesterday)
|
|
 
S

Surfin Local

Sorry - didn't mean to bypass standard protocal - it's just that they have
been helping me with my first post. If you'd still like to answer, I'd like
to read it.
 
K

Kevin Spencer

Well, Surfin, in THAT case... ;-)

Anything in the Drawing toolbar represents VML (Vector Markup Langugage),
and is not universally supported by all browsers. So, as someone who came
into the conversation late, I would say that the answer to your questions
are:

Right.
Right.
Nope.
Right.
What "web components?"
I'm confused about that as well.

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HTH,
Kevin Spencer
..Net Developer
Microsoft MVP
Neither a follower
nor a lender be.
 
M

Murray

I wouldn't use anything on the drawing toolbar. If I need shapes, I do
graphics. If I need rectangles, I use HTML page elements with CSS borders.
Accommodating NN4x is entirely up to you to decide what audience your site
will have.
 
R

Ronx

I'll repost the response from earlier:

In general, don't use anything on the drawing toolbar.

Lines, arrows rectangles, shapes all use VML graphics which use absolute
positioning, and are only visible in IE5.5 on Windows.

Most of the web components are safe. The database components depend on your
server - must be Windows, others require FP2002 extensions.

Setting FrontPage to accommodate Netscape actually turns off some features
that Netscape can handle, or which will fail gracefully in Netscape. NN4
users (according to the stats.) amount to about 2% of users in the browser
wars. The other Netscape versions can do whatever IE can do (except VML
graphics and the marquee - and NN7 can use the marquee). It is a question
of compromise - maximise the featureset or maximise the audience, and how
far back in ancient browsers do you design for?
If you restrict the site to IE5.5 users and above (about 80% of users), use
anything on the drawing toolbar. If you want the other 20%, don't use that
toolbar.

I've never used Dreamweaver - never got through the learning curve. In my
opinion graphics should be done in a graphics program, use a tool designed
for the job.

Rectangles and lines can be constructed with tables, cell borders and other
HTML tricks in conjunction with CSS.

With experience and testing in different browsers you will learn what will
work, what will fail.

And if there is a problem, ask in this newsgroup.
 
K

Kevin Spencer

Most web components depend on FrontPage server extensions on the web server
at run-time. I'm not sure what this part has to do with drawing, but feel
free to use them if they are avaialable, and if you need them.

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HTH,
Kevin Spencer
..Net Developer
Microsoft MVP
Neither a follower
nor a lender be.
 
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