Frontpage 2002 publishing error

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FPNewbie

I'm relatively new to Frontpage and publishing a web site. I updated my PC
and Frontpage 2000 to Frontpage 2002 after my PC crashed. I'm trying to
publish a web site and get the error "425 Unable to build data connection:
Connection timed out".

Any suggestions? Please Help!
 
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Steve D.

HOW CAN I ASK A NEW QUESTION? I CLICK ON NEW/QUESTION BUT NOTHING HAPPENS.
THANKS.
 
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Steve D.

I just created a simple 5-page site (with 5 tabs) using FrontPage 2003, (www.
restabs. com.) Every time I click on a tab to display a page, Internet
Explorer adds a horizontal gray line at the bottom of the browser window, so
if you click several times the lines stack up at the bottom of the screen,
gradually obliterating the view of the bottom of the page. I've never seen
this behavior before. What is causing it?

I am new to FrontPage, having used FrontPage express for simple sites in the
past.

Thanks for your help.
 
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Trevor L.

Steve said:
I just created a simple 5-page site (with 5 tabs) using FrontPage
2003, (www. restabs. com.) Every time I click on a tab to display a
page, Internet Explorer adds a horizontal gray line at the bottom of
the browser window, so if you click several times the lines stack up
at the bottom of the screen, gradually obliterating the view of the
bottom of the page. I've never seen this behavior before. What is
causing it?

I am new to FrontPage, having used FrontPage express for simple sites
in the past.

Thanks for your help.

Well, I see that the page www.restabs.com calls
http://www.highfalutinfilms.com/restabs/
in a frame

Each page called by clicking a tab opens a new frameset with a included
frame, so this is probably what is causing it .

e.g. Order Now calls
http://www.restabs.com/ordernow.htm
which has the frame
"http://www.highfalutinfilms.com/restabs/ordernow.htm"

Try constructing the site without frames.
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Cheers,
Trevor L.
[ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
MVPS Website: http://trevorl.mvps.org/
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Ronx

If you are using the forum, I believe you have to sign in with a
passport, and allow pop-ups.

Or you can use Outlook Express by following this link:

news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.frontpage.client

PS Using all caps is looked on as shouting
 
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Ronx

Are you using a firewall or Internet Security Product? If so, ensure it
is configured to allow FrontPage.
 
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Steve D.

Try constructing the site without frames.
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Thanks! Just as I suspected. I'm new to FrontPage so haven't figured out yet
how to turn all the unwanted features OFF. I'll try figuring out how to turn
off frames and resave the file and see if that works. Thanks again.
 
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Steve D.

Thanks! I was signed in but didn't get an error about pop-ups so didn't know
that was the problem. Oddly it would let me reply to a current message but
not create a new one. Didn't mean to shout... was just trying to indicate
that I knew my question didn't relate to the current topic since I couldn't
start a new thread. Thanks again.
 
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Thomas A. Rowe

You don't turn off frames, you just learn to not use frames.

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Thomas A. Rowe
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage

http://www.Ecom-Data.com
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Steve D.

First of all, I never intentionally used any frames. I looked at all the htm
files and could not find any frames. I selected each area of the display and
clicked on the Frames menu and it is all grayed out. Secondly, under the
Authoring tab of Page Options, I unselected all the options including Frames,
resaved the files and uploaded them with FTP. No change. Oddly, my brother
who is using Windows 2000 and IE 6 says he doesn't see the lines, but friends
with XP do.

Thanks again for your reply....meanwhile, I'm going to move this to a new
thread.
 
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Sue

I have the same MAJOR problem. Did you ever get it fixed? I've been using FP
for years and suddenly I cannot connect. I am out of business. Please someone
help- desperate.
 
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Trevor L.

Steve said:
First of all, I never intentionally used any frames. I looked at all
the htm files and could not find any frames. I selected each area of
the display and clicked on the Frames menu and it is all grayed out.
Secondly, under the Authoring tab of Page Options, I unselected all
the options including Frames, resaved the files and uploaded them
with FTP. No change. Oddly, my brother who is using Windows 2000 and
IE 6 says he doesn't see the lines, but friends with XP do.

Thanks again for your reply....meanwhile, I'm going to move this to a
new thread.

Steve,
I think the question can stay in this thread. Splitting it will only
confuse.

Anyway, while Thomas is correct, I notice that you are having some
difficulty with removing the frame structure.

I wonder how you managed to accidentally create a framed site.
Did you use any other software at some stage?
I note that the frames are in fact on a different website to the home page.

I will try to find time today (AEDST) to reconstruct a page or two, if not
all 5

Re the question in your other post
"FYI, I am new to FrontPage, having used FrontPage Express for simple sites
in the past, so am not familiar with what FrontPage extensions do. Therefore
I
prefer using FTP to upload files to maintain control for troubleshooting."

It is not a good idea to use FTP if your web server uses FrontPage Server
Extensions (FPSE for short). I didn't know what these were when I started,
or how to find out whether you use them, or not or whether your server uses
them or not. Somewhere there was a post stating how to find all this out.
I'll also look for that later.
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Cheers,
Trevor L.
Canberra, Australia
[ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
MVPS Website: http://trevorl.mvps.org/
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Steve D.

Trevor: Thanks for the reply. How are things in Australia??

I looked in the code and could not find the word "frame" anywhere, and I
never intentionally put one in there.

The reason I was avoiding FP Extension is that FP seemed to corrupt some of
the links and so I had to erase everything and start over and upload with FTP
then it worked ok. Since I don't have an understanding of exactly what the FP
Ext's are doing, it makes it impossible for me to troubleshoot.

Thanks again.
 
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Steve D.

Trevor: >>Did you use any other software at some stage?
I note that the frames are in fact on a different website to the home page.<<

No. However the restabs site is temporarly housed in a subdirectory of
another site (www . highfalutinfilms . com / restabs) {spaces are to foil
spam bots} while I test it. Eventually it will go on it's own hosting site.
Could that be causing a frame?

The site works ok, it's just those pesky lines at the bottom are odd.

Thanks again.
Steve
 
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Steve D.

maybe i'm wrong, but it appears the frame code is being inserted by the
server, since there is no reference to frames within the htm files i uploaded.

i tried moving the files to the root directory but that didn't help. when i
click View Source in IE i see the frame code but not the original htm code.

Steve
 
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Trevor L.

Steve,

I meant to get back to you earlier but got tied up with other things. I'll
try to answer all points in your last 3 posts but maybe some of the detail
will have to come later as it is getting close to TV time and then dinner
here in OZ.
Trevor: Thanks for the reply. How are things in Australia??

Great. Here in Canberra, it is 31 degreee (Celsius) with clear blue skies,
but we are getting evening thunderstorms to help our drought parched land.
I looked in the code and could not find the word "frame" anywhere,
and I never intentionally put one in there.

Interesting. I thought that you wouldn't have done it intentionally or you
would remember.

Here is the top level page
http://www.restabs.com
<HTML>
<HEAD><TITLE>www.restabs.com</TITLE></HEAD>
<FRAMESET rows="*, 1">
<FRAME src="http://www.highfalutinfilms.com/restabs">
<FRAME noresize frameborder="0" scrolling="no"
src="/images/transparent.gif">
</FRAMESET>
<NOFRAMES>
<P><P><A
href="http://www.highfalutinfilms.com/restabs">http://www.highfalutinfilms.com/restabs</A>
</NOFRAMES>
The reason I was avoiding FP Extension is that FP seemed to corrupt
some of the links and so I had to erase everything and start over and
upload with FTP then it worked ok. Since I don't have an
understanding of exactly what the FP Ext's are doing, it makes it
impossible for me to troubleshoot.

OK you can use FTP quite successfully IF your site doesn't use FP
Extensions. I haven't yet found the post I wanted which lists all the
statements that uses FPSE. (I haven't looked in fact - as I said, I got
sidetracked. Part of that sidetrack was a visit to the Australian National
Gallery to see an exhibition of Egypt Treasures from the Louvre - great
stuff.)
Trevor: >>Did you use any other software at some stage?
I note that the frames are in fact on a different website to the home
page.<<

No. However the restabs site is temporarly housed in a subdirectory of
another site (www . highfalutinfilms . com / restabs) {spaces are to
foil spam bots} while I test it. Eventually it will go on it's own
hosting site. Could that be causing a frame?

I think that this could be the cause of the problem. But nonetheless, it is
not necessary to use frames while testing. You should be able to get it
working OK on the temporary site, and then transfer the lot later.
The site works ok, it's just those pesky lines at the bottom are odd.

Yes, but it is a good idea to get rid of them especially when the cause is
fremes within frames within frames - each level of nesting causes another
line.
maybe i'm wrong, but it appears the frame code is being inserted by
the server, since there is no reference to frames within the htm
files i uploaded.

Yes, it must be. I wonder how though. A simple upload, especially with FTP,
should load the file exactly as you have it on hard disk. If you have no
frames, then how do the frames get there. The code must be intercepted by
the server somehow
i tried moving the files to the root directory but that didn't help.
when i click View Source in IE i see the frame code but not the
original htm code.

Ah you see the frame code as do I.

I am beginning to think that if the code is changed by the web server, then
there is nothing to be done

I can post the code as it should be, but maybe you know what it should be
like already.

Just so that we are on the same path, would you post a few of the pages back
to this newsgroup. (Just cut and paste the code.). They aren't very large,
so maybe one or two pages would do.

If your pages are OK, then it could be time to give up until the web site
gives you back access to the site you want to use, not the temporary one.

Or did I get it wrong? Are you uploading the site to the temporary one (www
.. highfalutinfilms . com / restabs) by your own specific action, or is the
web server for www . restabs . com doing this for you ?
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Cheers,
Trevor L.
[ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
MVPS Website: http://trevorl.mvps.org/
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Thomas A. Rowe

What happen if you access the site in IE, then click Edit with FP?

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Thomas A. Rowe
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage

http://www.Ecom-Data.com
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FPNewbie

Yes, I am using McAfee antivirus software with Firewall protection. When I
checked my setting it says FP has access to inbound and outbound traffic. I
still can't connect when trying to publish.

Still need more help!

Does anyone know of something else I could check?
 
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FPNewbie

No, I checked my firewall settings and FP should allow me to connect. I
would appreciate any and all suggestions!

Thanks!
 
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Thomas A. Rowe

Try disabling the Firewall protection

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Thomas A. Rowe
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage

http://www.Ecom-Data.com
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