[FrontPage Save Results Component] Message with Forms

[Pete]

I've read about the many causes of this problem when browsing a page with
an FP form. The solutions all seem to *require* using FP to publish the
web.

Thus far, I have always used a separate FTP client to publish, because my
FP web has lots of files and folders from old versions, and many of the
pages were auto-generated by web-builder apps. I'd rather not create a mess
on the host!

My questions are:

1. How can I tell if my Linux web host provider really has installed FP
extensions, as I requested them to do some time back?

2. Is it really impossible to get FP forms to work without publishing via
FP? I'm only talking about one page with forms! After all, a file is a
file.

3. If I *have* to publish via FP, can I put my form page into a separate FP
web and only publish that? Even if it ends up in the same domain tree on
the host?

Thanks for your help

Pete

 

[Steve Easton]

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I've read about the many causes of this problem when browsing a page with
an FP form. The solutions all seem to *require* using FP to publish the
web.

Thus far, I have always used a separate FTP client to publish, because my
FP web has lots of files and folders from old versions, and many of the
pages were auto-generated by web-builder apps. I'd rather not create a mess
on the host!

My questions are:

1. How can I tell if my Linux web host provider really has installed FP
extensions, as I requested them to do some time back?

enter the url http://yourwebsite.com/_vti_inf.html and if a page opens that says
FrontPage Configuration Information you have extensions installed.

2. Is it really impossible to get FP forms to work without publishing via
FP? I'm only talking about one page with forms! After all, a file is a
file.

No. For the forms to work you **must** publish with FrontPage, publishing via http://yourwebsite.com
when you publish via ftp:// the files necessary to operate your forms are not published / activated
because FrontPage "assumes" that the extensions are not installed on the server.

3. If I *have* to publish via FP, can I put my form page into a separate FP
web and only publish that? Even if it ends up in the same domain tree on
the host?

Not a separate web, but a subweb ( subdirectory ) in the root of your web.
Just be sure to create the form in the subweb ( subdirectory ) and then publish.

 

[Pete]

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Not a separate web, but a subweb ( subdirectory ) in the root of your web.
Just be sure to create the form in the subweb ( subdirectory ) and then publish.

Thanks both for the fast response.

Steve:

I don't see how to publish just the subweb. Is this possible? I would
really rather not publish my whole web. I'm using FP2000.

Pete

 

[Pete]

Making some progress, but not done yet

My File menu doesn't have a View command, so I converted the folder to a
web. It now looks like a subweb.

I opened it in a new FP window and attempted to publish to

mydomain.com/subfolder

It wouldn't work for the default HTTP URL, but it did work with my FTP URL.
FP reported successful publishing.

Checking with an FTP client, I see the HTML page with the form, and 2 empty
folders: images and _private. They're in the host subfolder that I'm using
for the subweb.

However, the [FrontPage Save Results Component] message is still displayed
when I browse to the form page.

The earlier suggestion to check that FP extensions are installed, using
this URL:

http://www.yourwebsitename.com/_vti_inf.html

worked fine. Contents listed below.

I could use help with the next step.

One possibility: I had FP extensions installed for my domain's root folder,
not the subfolder. Is this a problem?

Pete

<!-- _vti_inf.html version 0.100>
<!--
<snip>
--><!-- FrontPage Configuration Information
FPVersion="3.0.2.1330"
FPShtmlScriptUrl="_vti_bin/shtml.exe/_vti_rpc"
FPAuthorScriptUrl="_vti_bin/_vti_aut/author.exe"
FPAdminScriptUrl="_vti_bin/_vti_adm/admin.exe"
-->

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[Thomas A. Rowe]

Pete, you must be able to publish via http.

FTP can not create a subweb, as a subweb is a function of the FP extensions, and the form will not
work either. All you have done at this point was to create a standard folder.

Can you open http://www.mydomain.com directly in FP via File Menu | Open Web / Site?

If not then the FP extensions are not installed or are not configured correctly. And as long as you
continue to use FTP, you will not be able solve this problem. You host must map your domain name to
the folder holding your web site and then re-install the FP extensions.

You need to stop using FTP or don't use any FP component that require the FP run-time extensions
(forms, some features of shared borders, etc.) or functions of the extensions on the remote server
(subwebs / Subsites).

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Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
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Making some progress, but not done yet

My File menu doesn't have a View command, so I converted the folder to a
web. It now looks like a subweb.

I opened it in a new FP window and attempted to publish to

mydomain.com/subfolder

It wouldn't work for the default HTTP URL, but it did work with my FTP URL.
FP reported successful publishing.

Checking with an FTP client, I see the HTML page with the form, and 2 empty
folders: images and _private. They're in the host subfolder that I'm using
for the subweb.

However, the [FrontPage Save Results Component] message is still displayed
when I browse to the form page.

The earlier suggestion to check that FP extensions are installed, using
this URL:

http://www.yourwebsitename.com/_vti_inf.html

worked fine. Contents listed below.

I could use help with the next step.

One possibility: I had FP extensions installed for my domain's root folder,
not the subfolder. Is this a problem?

Pete

<!-- _vti_inf.html version 0.100>
<!--
<snip>
--><!-- FrontPage Configuration Information
FPVersion="3.0.2.1330"
FPShtmlScriptUrl="_vti_bin/shtml.exe/_vti_rpc"
FPAuthorScriptUrl="_vti_bin/_vti_aut/author.exe"
FPAdminScriptUrl="_vti_bin/_vti_adm/admin.exe"
-->

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Open the Main Web in FP, then open the Sub from there (File View)...it will open an separate
instance of FP with the sub opened, then just Publish that however you want.

 

[Pete]

Everything seems to be working now.

Thanks all for your fast responses and great help.

I couldn't have done it without you

Pete