ftp vs http

L

Linda

What are the differences between the two? How does managing a website in
front page differ when it's published to http or to ftp?

Linda
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

Actually this is very simple... If you want to open the site directly in FP on a live/remote server,
the server must have the FP extensions or Windows SharePoint Service (Windows 2003 Server with IIS
6) installed which requires access via http.

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John Cello

Linda:

FTP (file transfer protocol) is just that. Its comparable to using Windows
explorer to move files around on your PC. The reason you need to publish a
web site developed in FrontPage is because the transfer of files from your
local machine to the web server is only a small part of the process. If you
use any FrontPage components, the FrontPage server extensions need to know
they're there and how to interact with them. This is why publishing a
FrontPage site takes a little longet than just ftping it up there.

Hope this helps.
 
K

Kevin Spencer

In addition, FrontPage server extensions track changes to the web.

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What You Seek Is What You Get.
 
R

Rick Budde

The downside to http publishing is that your vocabulary
of four letters words will decrease from not cussing the
FTP process.
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Actually this is very simple... If you want to open the
site directly in FP on a live/remote server,
the server must have the FP extensions or Windows
SharePoint Service (Windows 2003 Server with IIS
 
L

Linda

I don't have a better understanding of the difference between the two. I'll
print out your responses and think on them..
 
M

Murray

The FTP process communicates with an FTP server program running on the host
site. It sends and receives packets of information with (potentially) a
handshake between the client and the server after each packet. The FTP
server program running on the server knows nothing about the website or its
needs. It only knows how to send and receive packets of information.

The http process communicates with the webserver on the host site. The
webserver knows about your website, and can do more than simply send and
receive packets of information. In the case of FP, this host webserver is
part of the FP server extensions. As you send and receive packets from your
client system to the host FP webserver, the packets of information are
changed as requested by the client (i.e., FrontPage) to enable certain
functions on the page. This is why your local page's code view, and your
published page's code view will reveal different code sets.

By using FTP on a site with FP server extensions enabled, you put or remove
files to or from the site without the 'knowledge' of the FP server
extensions. This can cause considerable problems to the functionality of
your site - and is said to "break" the server extensions (when in fact all
it does is to get the SE out of synch with the site). Whatever you call it,
the site is now broken. You can fix this by reloading the Server
extensions.

Speedwise, FTP will usually be much faster than FP's http since it is only
sending and receiving packets.

A good example of an FTP transmission protocol would be any 3rd party FTP
package (duh). A good example of an http transmission protocol would be
your browser connecting to any website. However fast that latter
transmission is, FP's will be slower, since FP is doing more when it
up/downloads files.

Hope I'm right with this, and if I'm lucky, that it helped you.
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

Murray, I think you covered all of the bases. I now even understand! <vbg>

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M

Murray

LOL! 8)

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Thomas A. Rowe said:
Murray, I think you covered all of the bases. I now even understand! <vbg>

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Wally S

If you are not using any special FP features, ftp can be faster and more
convenient with a good ftp software like CuteFTP or FTP Voyager. Included
pages almost work. They will come across, but they will not be updated on
the server if you make changes to the included page.

Wally S
 
L

Linda

Thank you. I'm going to re-read your detailed answer and mull it over but I
think I understand (I think I do, I think I do..). It's still a straight up
learning curve I'm on!
 
W

Wally S

Keep your courage up. Once you get into it and fool around with it a bit,
you'll find it's pretty easy, especially if you keep your design simple and
stay away from the fancy-dancy stuff.

Wally S
 
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