Getting a good pdf file to my printer

S

smalltownpaper

Getting successful files of my Publisher newspaper to the printer has been a
huge nightmare. I've used two different pdf creator freewares. We've had
lots of problems from missing fonts to numbers subbed with symbols. We're
b&w, so shouldn't this be easy? My printer always blames Publisher, but it
seems like it should be their problem since the file looks perfect when it
leaves here.

If I purchase Adobe Distiller does anyone think these problems will be
resolved?
I've read about saving as .eps. Should my printer have offered this as a
solution?
Am I getting the runaround -- should I dump this vendor?
 
S

smalltownpaper

I'm using all kinds of fonts since I create each different ad in the paper
also.

JoAnn Paules said:
It sounds like a font issue, which your printer should have recognized. Are
you using "fancy fonts"?

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



smalltownpaper said:
Getting successful files of my Publisher newspaper to the printer has been
a
huge nightmare. I've used two different pdf creator freewares. We've had
lots of problems from missing fonts to numbers subbed with symbols.
We're
b&w, so shouldn't this be easy? My printer always blames Publisher, but it
seems like it should be their problem since the file looks perfect when it
leaves here.

If I purchase Adobe Distiller does anyone think these problems will be
resolved?
I've read about saving as .eps. Should my printer have offered this as a
solution?
Am I getting the runaround -- should I dump this vendor?
 
M

Mary Sauer

If you are using all sorts of fonts, then this is the problem. I don't know how the
free PDF writers work, look to see if you can embed your fonts. Some fonts cannot be
embedded due to license restrictions.
If you must have unusual fonts, select all on your page, save as a picture, turn the
picture into a PDF.

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/

smalltownpaper said:
I'm using all kinds of fonts since I create each different ad in the paper
also.

JoAnn Paules said:
It sounds like a font issue, which your printer should have recognized. Are
you using "fancy fonts"?

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



smalltownpaper said:
Getting successful files of my Publisher newspaper to the printer has been
a
huge nightmare. I've used two different pdf creator freewares. We've had
lots of problems from missing fonts to numbers subbed with symbols.
We're
b&w, so shouldn't this be easy? My printer always blames Publisher, but it
seems like it should be their problem since the file looks perfect when it
leaves here.

If I purchase Adobe Distiller does anyone think these problems will be
resolved?
I've read about saving as .eps. Should my printer have offered this as a
solution?
Am I getting the runaround -- should I dump this vendor?
 
J

JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]

You need to make sure your printer has those fonts. When I use a "fancy
font" (I know, weird term but you knew what I meant), I take a look to see
which fonts can be embedded and which I need to include with my .pub file
for my printer. If you're printer is worth your business (1) he should have
suggested this already and (2) he should know what to do with those fonts.

If he doesn't, I can recommend one in southeast PA who does wonderful work
at great rates.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



smalltownpaper said:
I'm using all kinds of fonts since I create each different ad in the paper
also.

JoAnn Paules said:
It sounds like a font issue, which your printer should have recognized.
Are
you using "fancy fonts"?

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



message
Getting successful files of my Publisher newspaper to the printer has
been
a
huge nightmare. I've used two different pdf creator freewares. We've
had
lots of problems from missing fonts to numbers subbed with symbols.
We're
b&w, so shouldn't this be easy? My printer always blames Publisher, but
it
seems like it should be their problem since the file looks perfect when
it
leaves here.

If I purchase Adobe Distiller does anyone think these problems will be
resolved?
I've read about saving as .eps. Should my printer have offered this as
a
solution?
Am I getting the runaround -- should I dump this vendor?
 
S

smalltownpaper

Thanks a lot -- your comments were so helpful. Please forward me the
printer's name and your contact if you think they'd do 6,000, b&w, 16pg
papers.

The first file I sent was missing fonts -- my printer guy did identify it as
a font issue. I then changed my pdf freeware and that solved the problem at
the time. They never said the file was "missing fonts" again, but had a huge
list of other reasons why he couldn't use my file.

Again, thank you!
Pam
JoAnn Paules said:
You need to make sure your printer has those fonts. When I use a "fancy
font" (I know, weird term but you knew what I meant), I take a look to see
which fonts can be embedded and which I need to include with my .pub file
for my printer. If you're printer is worth your business (1) he should have
suggested this already and (2) he should know what to do with those fonts.

If he doesn't, I can recommend one in southeast PA who does wonderful work
at great rates.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



smalltownpaper said:
I'm using all kinds of fonts since I create each different ad in the paper
also.

JoAnn Paules said:
It sounds like a font issue, which your printer should have recognized.
Are
you using "fancy fonts"?

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



message
Getting successful files of my Publisher newspaper to the printer has
been
a
huge nightmare. I've used two different pdf creator freewares. We've
had
lots of problems from missing fonts to numbers subbed with symbols.
We're
b&w, so shouldn't this be easy? My printer always blames Publisher, but
it
seems like it should be their problem since the file looks perfect when
it
leaves here.

If I purchase Adobe Distiller does anyone think these problems will be
resolved?
I've read about saving as .eps. Should my printer have offered this as
a
solution?
Am I getting the runaround -- should I dump this vendor?
 
J

JoAnn Paules [MVP]

I KNOW they can do the job. Check out www.nefra.com. The site itself isn't
much but they have their Business Solutions guide there with their contact
information.

Any chance you remember what some of the other reasons were?

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



smalltownpaper said:
Thanks a lot -- your comments were so helpful. Please forward me the
printer's name and your contact if you think they'd do 6,000, b&w, 16pg
papers.

The first file I sent was missing fonts -- my printer guy did identify it
as
a font issue. I then changed my pdf freeware and that solved the problem
at
the time. They never said the file was "missing fonts" again, but had a
huge
list of other reasons why he couldn't use my file.

Again, thank you!
Pam
JoAnn Paules said:
You need to make sure your printer has those fonts. When I use a "fancy
font" (I know, weird term but you knew what I meant), I take a look to
see
which fonts can be embedded and which I need to include with my .pub file
for my printer. If you're printer is worth your business (1) he should
have
suggested this already and (2) he should know what to do with those
fonts.

If he doesn't, I can recommend one in southeast PA who does wonderful
work
at great rates.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



message
I'm using all kinds of fonts since I create each different ad in the
paper
also.

:

It sounds like a font issue, which your printer should have
recognized.
Are
you using "fancy fonts"?

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



message
Getting successful files of my Publisher newspaper to the printer
has
been
a
huge nightmare. I've used two different pdf creator freewares.
We've
had
lots of problems from missing fonts to numbers subbed with symbols.
We're
b&w, so shouldn't this be easy? My printer always blames Publisher,
but
it
seems like it should be their problem since the file looks perfect
when
it
leaves here.

If I purchase Adobe Distiller does anyone think these problems will
be
resolved?
I've read about saving as .eps. Should my printer have offered this
as
a
solution?
Am I getting the runaround -- should I dump this vendor?
 
S

smalltownpaper

this past issue, they said on 4/16 pages, numbers (ie business phone #s) were
subbed with symbols. Upon their suggestion, I created the pdf as greyscale
instead of rgb. This result was even worse they said - same substitution
problems on more pages.

JoAnn Paules said:
I KNOW they can do the job. Check out www.nefra.com. The site itself isn't
much but they have their Business Solutions guide there with their contact
information.

Any chance you remember what some of the other reasons were?

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



smalltownpaper said:
Thanks a lot -- your comments were so helpful. Please forward me the
printer's name and your contact if you think they'd do 6,000, b&w, 16pg
papers.

The first file I sent was missing fonts -- my printer guy did identify it
as
a font issue. I then changed my pdf freeware and that solved the problem
at
the time. They never said the file was "missing fonts" again, but had a
huge
list of other reasons why he couldn't use my file.

Again, thank you!
Pam
JoAnn Paules said:
You need to make sure your printer has those fonts. When I use a "fancy
font" (I know, weird term but you knew what I meant), I take a look to
see
which fonts can be embedded and which I need to include with my .pub file
for my printer. If you're printer is worth your business (1) he should
have
suggested this already and (2) he should know what to do with those
fonts.

If he doesn't, I can recommend one in southeast PA who does wonderful
work
at great rates.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



message
I'm using all kinds of fonts since I create each different ad in the
paper
also.

:

It sounds like a font issue, which your printer should have
recognized.
Are
you using "fancy fonts"?

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



message
Getting successful files of my Publisher newspaper to the printer
has
been
a
huge nightmare. I've used two different pdf creator freewares.
We've
had
lots of problems from missing fonts to numbers subbed with symbols.
We're
b&w, so shouldn't this be easy? My printer always blames Publisher,
but
it
seems like it should be their problem since the file looks perfect
when
it
leaves here.

If I purchase Adobe Distiller does anyone think these problems will
be
resolved?
I've read about saving as .eps. Should my printer have offered this
as
a
solution?
Am I getting the runaround -- should I dump this vendor?
 
J

JoAnn Paules [MVP]

Send me one of your files.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



smalltownpaper said:
this past issue, they said on 4/16 pages, numbers (ie business phone #s)
were
subbed with symbols. Upon their suggestion, I created the pdf as
greyscale
instead of rgb. This result was even worse they said - same substitution
problems on more pages.

JoAnn Paules said:
I KNOW they can do the job. Check out www.nefra.com. The site itself
isn't
much but they have their Business Solutions guide there with their
contact
information.

Any chance you remember what some of the other reasons were?

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



message
Thanks a lot -- your comments were so helpful. Please forward me the
printer's name and your contact if you think they'd do 6,000, b&w, 16pg
papers.

The first file I sent was missing fonts -- my printer guy did identify
it
as
a font issue. I then changed my pdf freeware and that solved the
problem
at
the time. They never said the file was "missing fonts" again, but had a
huge
list of other reasons why he couldn't use my file.

Again, thank you!
Pam
:

You need to make sure your printer has those fonts. When I use a
"fancy
font" (I know, weird term but you knew what I meant), I take a look to
see
which fonts can be embedded and which I need to include with my .pub
file
for my printer. If you're printer is worth your business (1) he should
have
suggested this already and (2) he should know what to do with those
fonts.

If he doesn't, I can recommend one in southeast PA who does wonderful
work
at great rates.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



message
I'm using all kinds of fonts since I create each different ad in the
paper
also.

:

It sounds like a font issue, which your printer should have
recognized.
Are
you using "fancy fonts"?

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



in
message
Getting successful files of my Publisher newspaper to the printer
has
been
a
huge nightmare. I've used two different pdf creator freewares.
We've
had
lots of problems from missing fonts to numbers subbed with
symbols.
We're
b&w, so shouldn't this be easy? My printer always blames
Publisher,
but
it
seems like it should be their problem since the file looks
perfect
when
it
leaves here.

If I purchase Adobe Distiller does anyone think these problems
will
be
resolved?
I've read about saving as .eps. Should my printer have offered
this
as
a
solution?
Am I getting the runaround -- should I dump this vendor?
 
J

Jeff Daghir

I find it highly unlikely that the color mode of the PDF would have any
effect on font problems. Substitution of symbols for numbers is usually
caused by a font not being properly embedded in the PDF file. And if the
printer has the proper software for handling PDFs they should be able to
determine if all the fonts in the PDF are embedded or not. You might need
to find a printer who is a little more up to speed on handling
PDF files or find one who can accept properly packaged native Publisher
files.


--

Jeff Daghir
MPS Printing, Inc.
The Ink & Paper People!
Madison, IN
www.mpsprinting.com
(e-mail address removed)
 
M

***MS*Publisher***

You should be using Serif PagePlus11 if you are creating a small town
newspaper.
Has PDF and everything else you need all built in to the program.
www.serif.com
 
U

umthombo

smalltownpaper said:
Getting successful files of my Publisher newspaper to the printer has been a
huge nightmare. I've used two different pdf creator freewares. We've had
lots of problems from missing fonts to numbers subbed with symbols. We're
b&w, so shouldn't this be easy? My printer always blames Publisher, but it
seems like it should be their problem since the file looks perfect when it
leaves here.

If I purchase Adobe Distiller does anyone think these problems will be
resolved?
I've read about saving as .eps. Should my printer have offered this as a
solution?
Am I getting the runaround -- should I dump this vendor?
 
U

umthombo

I want an appropriate programe from which i will be able to produce a news
paper

JoAnn Paules said:
It sounds like a font issue, which your printer should have recognized. Are
you using "fancy fonts"?

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



smalltownpaper said:
Getting successful files of my Publisher newspaper to the printer has been
a
huge nightmare. I've used two different pdf creator freewares. We've had
lots of problems from missing fonts to numbers subbed with symbols.
We're
b&w, so shouldn't this be easy? My printer always blames Publisher, but it
seems like it should be their problem since the file looks perfect when it
leaves here.

If I purchase Adobe Distiller does anyone think these problems will be
resolved?
I've read about saving as .eps. Should my printer have offered this as a
solution?
Am I getting the runaround -- should I dump this vendor?
 
U

umthombo

Can you please help me, I want to start a news paper for a small town. I need
an appropriate software and printers to do this
 

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