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Version: 2008 Operating System: Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) How do I get text in text box (in a newsletter) to wrap around a graphic that is behind the text box, not in the text box?
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CyberTaz
You can't. Text Boxes are objects themselves & you can't have one object
wrap around another. Only document text can flow around objects.
What you're attempting to do [if I'm envisioning it correctly] is a fairly
sophisticated page layout which is better done in desktop publishing
programs. Word simply is not equipped to effectively do this sort of work...
At least not without a high degree of frustration
Even Publishing Layout
doesn't provide that type of capability as evidenced by the fact that the
templates in Project Gallery don't offer layouts with that effect. Despite
the façade it imposes it's still a Word document under the hood.
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
wrap around another. Only document text can flow around objects.
What you're attempting to do [if I'm envisioning it correctly] is a fairly
sophisticated page layout which is better done in desktop publishing
programs. Word simply is not equipped to effectively do this sort of work...
At least not without a high degree of frustration
Even Publishing Layoutdoesn't provide that type of capability as evidenced by the fact that the
templates in Project Gallery don't offer layouts with that effect. Despite
the façade it imposes it's still a Word document under the hood.
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
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John McGhie
Short answer: You can't.
You must place the graphic in the text box.
Cheers
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McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
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You must place the graphic in the text box.
Cheers
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matters unless I ask you to; or unless you intend to pay!
John McGhie, Microsoft MVP (Word, Mac Word), Consultant Technical Writer,
McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
Sydney, Australia. | Ph: +61 (0)4 1209 1410
+61 4 1209 1410, mailto:[email protected]
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Jeff Chapman
Hello,
Text within a text box WILL wrap around an object
outside of the text box, provided you do the following:
1. Make sure that the object is above the text box
in the stacking order (controlled using Arrange - Send to Front
in the Formatting Palette).
2. Make sure that text within the text box is set to wrap
for stacking objects. In Word 2008, double-click the text box
edges, select the Layout tab and Advanced button,
and put a check in the "Wrap text within text boxes for
overlay objects" option.
In short: the text box always has to be on bottom, and the
object to wrap the text around has to be on top.
There is also a hidden option in Word 2008 to edit the
wrap boundary of a photo or other object, so that you
can control exactly how text wraps around it.
You can show this option by clicking View - Toolbars -
Drawing, clicking on the More Buttons arrow on the
Drawing toolbar and selecting Customize Toolbars and
Menus, selecting the Commands tab at top and the Drawing
category, locating the Edit Wrap Boundary command
(it should be around the bottom of the Commands list)
and dragging that to the Drawing toolbar (or any other
toolbar you prefer). When you hereafter click on a picture,
for instance, you can see the wrap boundary handles,
click and drag them to control the text wrapping.
Jeff
Text within a text box WILL wrap around an object
outside of the text box, provided you do the following:
1. Make sure that the object is above the text box
in the stacking order (controlled using Arrange - Send to Front
in the Formatting Palette).
2. Make sure that text within the text box is set to wrap
for stacking objects. In Word 2008, double-click the text box
edges, select the Layout tab and Advanced button,
and put a check in the "Wrap text within text boxes for
overlay objects" option.
In short: the text box always has to be on bottom, and the
object to wrap the text around has to be on top.
There is also a hidden option in Word 2008 to edit the
wrap boundary of a photo or other object, so that you
can control exactly how text wraps around it.
You can show this option by clicking View - Toolbars -
Drawing, clicking on the More Buttons arrow on the
Drawing toolbar and selecting Customize Toolbars and
Menus, selecting the Commands tab at top and the Drawing
category, locating the Edit Wrap Boundary command
(it should be around the bottom of the Commands list)
and dragging that to the Drawing toolbar (or any other
toolbar you prefer). When you hereafter click on a picture,
for instance, you can see the wrap boundary handles,
click and drag them to control the text wrapping.
Jeff
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John McGhie
Thanks Jeff:
Where DID you find that one??
I just learned something
Cheers
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The email below is my business email -- Please do not email me about forum
matters unless I ask you to; or unless you intend to pay!
John McGhie, Microsoft MVP (Word, Mac Word), Consultant Technical Writer,
McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
Sydney, Australia. | Ph: +61 (0)4 1209 1410
+61 4 1209 1410, mailto:[email protected]
Where DID you find that one??
I just learned something
Cheers
--
The email below is my business email -- Please do not email me about forum
matters unless I ask you to; or unless you intend to pay!
John McGhie, Microsoft MVP (Word, Mac Word), Consultant Technical Writer,
McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
Sydney, Australia. | Ph: +61 (0)4 1209 1410
+61 4 1209 1410, mailto:[email protected]
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Jeff Chapman
Hello there, John,
It's a very difficult to locate command, and to make matters
worse, the icon or command is only enabled under certain
circumstances. I first learned about this one in Word for
Windows, but I happily discovered it in Word 2008 for Mac.
(It's probably in earlier versions as well.)
Here are some more interesting facts to add to your arsenal:
- Edit Wrap Boundary features in Word are ONLY available if the wrap
mode of the object is set to "Tight" or "Through". Both the icon
and the context menu command is disabled if the object is set to
any other wrap mode besides Tight or Through.
- The Text Wrapping - Edit Wrap Boundary command is also
available on Control-click/right-click for objects from
the Text Wrapping - Edit Wrap Boundary context menu, provided
that the object's wrap mode is set to "Tight" or "Through".
- Edit Wrap Boundary features are also available for autoshapes
via the icon command. (However, the command is unavailable for
autoshapes via context menu.)
- Text in text boxes will only wrap around objects under the
following conditions:
(a) the text box is stacked BEHIND the object, not on top of it;
(b) the "Wrap text within boxes for overlay objects" option in
the Format Text Box - Layout - Advanced dialog is selected.
(I mentioned this one earlier, but just in case - it's easy
to miss!)
- Text boxes can be made to wrap around OTHER text boxes
in Word as well, provided that the stacking order and wrap
options are set correctly as mentioned above.
It's actually possible to do some pretty sophisticated
layouts with this feature. Word may not be a full-fledged DTP
application, but there certainly are some creative options
there that may come in handy
Jeff
It's a very difficult to locate command, and to make matters
worse, the icon or command is only enabled under certain
circumstances. I first learned about this one in Word for
Windows, but I happily discovered it in Word 2008 for Mac.
(It's probably in earlier versions as well.)
Here are some more interesting facts to add to your arsenal:
- Edit Wrap Boundary features in Word are ONLY available if the wrap
mode of the object is set to "Tight" or "Through". Both the icon
and the context menu command is disabled if the object is set to
any other wrap mode besides Tight or Through.
- The Text Wrapping - Edit Wrap Boundary command is also
available on Control-click/right-click for objects from
the Text Wrapping - Edit Wrap Boundary context menu, provided
that the object's wrap mode is set to "Tight" or "Through".
- Edit Wrap Boundary features are also available for autoshapes
via the icon command. (However, the command is unavailable for
autoshapes via context menu.)
- Text in text boxes will only wrap around objects under the
following conditions:
(a) the text box is stacked BEHIND the object, not on top of it;
(b) the "Wrap text within boxes for overlay objects" option in
the Format Text Box - Layout - Advanced dialog is selected.
(I mentioned this one earlier, but just in case - it's easy
to miss!)
- Text boxes can be made to wrap around OTHER text boxes
in Word as well, provided that the stacking order and wrap
options are set correctly as mentioned above.
It's actually possible to do some pretty sophisticated
layouts with this feature. Word may not be a full-fledged DTP
application, but there certainly are some creative options
there that may come in handy
Jeff
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Jeff Chapman
Hello John,
On the topic of wrapping text boxes around graphics
and other objects, another interesting fact:
You can use the Change Autoshape feature (another "hidden"
feature that must be pulled from the list of Drawing custom
commands to a toolbar or menu) on text boxes as well, to
change them into circles, triangles, stars - whatever.
This provides a few more creative options for text flowing.
Add to that the ability to link text boxes, and you've
pretty much got the basic tools covered for doing most
newsletter-style layouts. (I still personally wouldn't
use Word for that purpose, however, unless I had nothing
else.)
Unfortunately, as opposed to professional desktop publishing
applications, text in Word will not flow freely within the
autoshape (for instance, even if you change the
text box shape to a circle, the text will not
flow to line up with the inside of the circular edges).
Text boxes in Word are always rectilinear, even if the shape
that encloses them is not ;-p
I rather like Word 2008's implementation of linked text boxes.
Very nice, how you can see the number of the text appear in
a faint circle on the top left hand corner of a linked text
box when you hover over it.
Jeff
On the topic of wrapping text boxes around graphics
and other objects, another interesting fact:
You can use the Change Autoshape feature (another "hidden"
feature that must be pulled from the list of Drawing custom
commands to a toolbar or menu) on text boxes as well, to
change them into circles, triangles, stars - whatever.
This provides a few more creative options for text flowing.
Add to that the ability to link text boxes, and you've
pretty much got the basic tools covered for doing most
newsletter-style layouts. (I still personally wouldn't
use Word for that purpose, however, unless I had nothing
else.)
Unfortunately, as opposed to professional desktop publishing
applications, text in Word will not flow freely within the
autoshape (for instance, even if you change the
text box shape to a circle, the text will not
flow to line up with the inside of the circular edges).
Text boxes in Word are always rectilinear, even if the shape
that encloses them is not ;-p
I rather like Word 2008's implementation of linked text boxes.
Very nice, how you can see the number of the text appear in
a faint circle on the top left hand corner of a linked text
box when you hover over it.
Jeff
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John McGhie
You, Sir, are a Scholar, if not necessarily a gentleman!
Muchly grassy-ass to you
Cheers
--
The email below is my business email -- Please do not email me about forum
matters unless I ask you to; or unless you intend to pay!
John McGhie, Microsoft MVP (Word, Mac Word), Consultant Technical Writer,
McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
Sydney, Australia. | Ph: +61 (0)4 1209 1410
+61 4 1209 1410, mailto:[email protected]
Muchly grassy-ass to you
Cheers
--
The email below is my business email -- Please do not email me about forum
matters unless I ask you to; or unless you intend to pay!
John McGhie, Microsoft MVP (Word, Mac Word), Consultant Technical Writer,
McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
Sydney, Australia. | Ph: +61 (0)4 1209 1410
+61 4 1209 1410, mailto:[email protected]
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Jeff Chapman
Hello John,
Wha, what? Never heard that expression.
Either I've been living in Japan too long (always a
truism), or you've stymied me with a definitely down-under
saying.
Jeff
Muchly grassy-ass to you
Wha, what? Never heard that expression.
Either I've been living in Japan too long (always a
truism), or you've stymied me with a definitely down-under
saying.
Jeff
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John McGhie
Muchos Gracias...
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The email below is my business email -- Please do not email me about forum
matters unless I ask you to; or unless you intend to pay!
John McGhie, Microsoft MVP (Word, Mac Word), Consultant Technical Writer,
McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
Sydney, Australia. | Ph: +61 (0)4 1209 1410
+61 4 1209 1410, mailto:[email protected]
Hello John,
Wha, what? Never heard that expression.
Either I've been living in Japan too long (always a
truism), or you've stymied me with a definitely down-under
saying.
Jeff
--
The email below is my business email -- Please do not email me about forum
matters unless I ask you to; or unless you intend to pay!
John McGhie, Microsoft MVP (Word, Mac Word), Consultant Technical Writer,
McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
Sydney, Australia. | Ph: +61 (0)4 1209 1410
+61 4 1209 1410, mailto:[email protected]
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Catherine Doherty
How do I text wrap beside a photo using Word 2007?
Version: 2008
Operating System: Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)
How do I get text in text box (in a newsletter) to wrap around a graphic that is behind the text box, not in the text box?
On Saturday, December 12, 2009 6:52 PM CyberTaz wrote:
You cannot. Text Boxes are objects themselves & you cannot have one object
wrap around another. Only document text can flow around objects.
What you are attempting to do [if I am envisioning it correctly] is a fairly
sophisticated page layout which is better done in desktop publishing
programs. Word simply is not equipped to effectively do this sort of work...
At least not without a high degree of frustration
does not provide that type of capability as evidenced by the fact that the
templates in Project Gallery do not offer layouts with that effect. Despite
the fa?ade it imposes it is still a Word document under the hood.
Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
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